I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!!
Quote from: fordham96 on December 21, 2014, 09:50:04 PM I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!! Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova?
Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 22, 2014, 06:48:33 AM Quote from: fordham96 on December 21, 2014, 09:50:04 PM I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!! Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova? Because I watched all 3 and I have no doubt on a neutral floor that both Virginia and Louisville would be significant favorites over Nova. Virginia, next to Kentucky, is the best defensive team in the country.
Quote from: fordham96 on December 22, 2014, 10:59:09 AM Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 22, 2014, 06:48:33 AM Quote from: fordham96 on December 21, 2014, 09:50:04 PM I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!! Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova? Because I watched all 3 and I have no doubt on a neutral floor that both Virginia and Louisville would be significant favorites over Nova. Virginia, next to Kentucky, is the best defensive team in the country. I disagree. Outside of Kentucky and maybe duke I think nova can play with any team in the country. They have proven that so far
Very simply put with regards to overall strength of conference, ask Villanova who would they rather face in a 3 game stretch right now: SJU, Butler and Georgetown? Or Duke, Virginia and Louisville? Would take them about 2 seconds to answer that.
Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 22, 2014, 01:16:29 PM Quote from: fordham96 on December 22, 2014, 10:59:09 AM Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 22, 2014, 06:48:33 AM Quote from: fordham96 on December 21, 2014, 09:50:04 PM I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!! Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova? Because I watched all 3 and I have no doubt on a neutral floor that both Virginia and Louisville would be significant favorites over Nova. Virginia, next to Kentucky, is the best defensive team in the country. I disagree. Outside of Kentucky and maybe duke I think nova can play with any team in the country. They have proven that so far I didn't say they "couldn't play with anyone" I said Virginia and Louisville are better. And they are. What you are saying is any top 15 team can play with any top 15 team essentially. But that is not the point I am making. If you put them on a neutral floor right now who would be favored? That is my point. The ACC has THREE teams if not more at or quite frankly ABOVE Nova in stature.
Quote from: fordham96 on December 22, 2014, 02:41:54 PM Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 22, 2014, 01:16:29 PM Quote from: fordham96 on December 22, 2014, 10:59:09 AM Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 22, 2014, 06:48:33 AM Quote from: fordham96 on December 21, 2014, 09:50:04 PM I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!! Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova? Because I watched all 3 and I have no doubt on a neutral floor that both Virginia and Louisville would be significant favorites over Nova. Virginia, next to Kentucky, is the best defensive team in the country. I disagree. Outside of Kentucky and maybe duke I think nova can play with any team in the country. They have proven that so far I didn't say they "couldn't play with anyone" I said Virginia and Louisville are better. And they are. What you are saying is any top 15 team can play with any top 15 team essentially. But that is not the point I am making. If you put them on a neutral floor right now who would be favored? That is my point. The ACC has THREE teams if not more at or quite frankly ABOVE Nova in stature. Okay what you said was significant favorites. What is significant? At the garden would Virginia be favored over Nova? Im not sure they would be, but I do know that if they were it would not be significant.
The problem with the big east isn't the top. Our top 4 teams are good. After Xavier conference goes down pretty fast. We need Creighton, Butler, Seton Hall, and Providence not to suck.
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 22, 2014, 03:05:19 PM The problem with the big east isn't the top. Our top 4 teams are good. After Xavier conference goes down pretty fast. We need Creighton, Butler, Seton Hall, and Providence not to suck. All conferences have bad bottom's. When the BE was a 16 team monster it still had South Florida, Rutgers, DePaul, SJU and SHU that consistently did little or nothing. The ACC is no exception they will have some weak teams. Your top needs to be VERY STRONG though. The ACC will have a very STRONG top especially if UNC rebounds in conference play. Have multiple top 2-3 seeded teams in the NCAA. This BE conference does not.
Depaul lost by 20 to Ohio yesterday. Amazing that they are so terrible.
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 24, 2014, 11:39:46 AM Depaul lost by 20 to Ohio yesterday. Amazing that they are so terrible. They lost again today to LMU. I think it is a foregone conclusion that Purnell is a goner the question is do they wait to seasons end to pull the plug of do they do it now like they did with Wainwright 5 years ago with a mid-season firing. I don't think they have an AD either.
Calhoun is surprisingly a great announcer. Enjoy him way more than I ever thought I could.