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The locals in BE are all horrible; SH had 15 turnovers in first half alone.


“@NYPost_Brazille: Providence snaps 5-game losing streak 67-55. Seton Hall now 1-3 in Big East. That was ug-ly. #shbb”

The way things are going, the battle for the Big East basement is going to be a dog fight.

“@ReggieRankin: Looks like UCONN has landed C Amida Brimah. Extra long and mobile, blocks shots.Thin but very active. Saw in the fall. Great Upside!”

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

Quote from: paultzman on January 14, 2013, 11:16:26 AM

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on January 14, 2013, 11:16:26 AM

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.

2 games?  His BE number show the rebounds increasing.  The blocks aren't going away.  Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.

Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)

Quote from: Poison on January 14, 2013, 11:19:34 AM

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on January 14, 2013, 11:16:26 AM

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.

2 games?  His BE number show the rebounds increasing.  The blocks aren't going away.  Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.

Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)

Good synopsis of CO's progress;

“@ECoastBias: Chris Obekpa wins Big East Rookie of the Week - & now does more than block shots. @bigeastmbb #stjbb http://t.co/s4FxELpx”

Obekpa is more nba than karr IMO but with that said both need to come back to school. Development is needed for both.

Obekpa is more nba than karr IMO but with that said both need to come back to school. Development is needed for both.

+1

“@BigEastMBB: Check out the highlights of the Player and Rookie of the Week C.J. Fair and Chris Obekpa. @cuse @STJ_Basketball http://t.co/SgMxjLOa”

Notice the blocks stay in play.

Quote from: paultzman on January 14, 2013, 11:16:26 AM

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

nephew, who do you see as ROY contenders thus far?

Quote from: Poison on January 14, 2013, 11:19:34 AM

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on January 14, 2013, 11:16:26 AM

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.

2 games?  His BE number show the rebounds increasing.  The blocks aren't going away.  Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.

Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)

Agree that CO is a great shot blocker and has had an effect on defense inside even when he doesn't block a shot and I love having him but I think to be labeled a "game changer" you have too be changing losses into wins and we are still losing these games. I do think he has the potential to be a game changer in terms of being the difference in us winning games and I hope that happens soon.

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on January 14, 2013, 11:16:26 AM

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

nephew, who do you see as ROY contenders thus far?

Karr, Ryan A, and Omar are the only three Fresh in the Top 40 in BE scoring.  I liked Adams coming into the year but he's been all over the place and inconsistent.  Dunn hasnt lit the world on fire and Harrell is putting up nice numbers but not many MPG.

I'd say my top 5 would be Karr, Ryan A, Obekpa, Omar, Adams.

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:24:18 AM

Quote from: Poison on January 14, 2013, 11:19:34 AM

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on January 14, 2013, 11:16:26 AM

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.

2 games?  His BE number show the rebounds increasing.  The blocks aren't going away.  Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.

Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)

Agree that CO is a great shot blocker and has had an effect on defense inside even when he doesn't block a shot and I love having him but I think to be labeled a "game changer" you have too be changing losses into wins and we are still losing these games. I do think he has the potential to be a game changer in terms of being the difference in us winning games and I hope that happens soon.

Nova game would have never saw OT and the Cincy game would have been a loss.  Rutgers would have been a bigger beatdown.  Thats game changing to me.  He makes players think twice about what they are doing on the court.

Quote from: Celtics11 on January 14, 2013, 02:14:56 PM

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:24:18 AM

Quote from: Poison on January 14, 2013, 11:19:34 AM

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on January 14, 2013, 11:16:26 AM

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.

2 games?  His BE number show the rebounds increasing.  The blocks aren't going away.  Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.

Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)

Agree that CO is a great shot blocker and has had an effect on defense inside even when he doesn't block a shot and I love having him but I think to be labeled a "game changer" you have too be changing losses into wins and we are still losing these games. I do think he has the potential to be a game changer in terms of being the difference in us winning games and I hope that happens soon.

Nova game would have never saw OT and the Cincy game would have been a loss.  Rutgers would have been a bigger beatdown.  Thats game changing to me.  He makes players think twice about what they are doing on the court.

I'm not disagreeing with you Moose, but think about this... does a Big East Rookie of the Year, who's best attribute by far is his defense; have games like USF where the pg drove right at him time after time?  Or the Georgetown game where Lubick was 4 for 4 I think posting him up?   

He might end up deserving it, but I'm just saying... if defense is his calling card then maybe those things shouldn't be happening. 

I think Jakarr ends up bringing it home.   

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 06:52:24 PM

Quote from: Celtics11 on January 14, 2013, 02:14:56 PM

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:24:18 AM

Quote from: Poison on January 14, 2013, 11:19:34 AM

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on January 14, 2013, 11:16:26 AM

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.

2 games?  His BE number show the rebounds increasing.  The blocks aren't going away.  Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.

Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)

Agree that CO is a great shot blocker and has had an effect on defense inside even when he doesn't block a shot and I love having him but I think to be labeled a "game changer" you have too be changing losses into wins and we are still losing these games. I do think he has the potential to be a game changer in terms of being the difference in us winning games and I hope that happens soon.

Nova game would have never saw OT and the Cincy game would have been a loss.  Rutgers would have been a bigger beatdown.  Thats game changing to me.  He makes players think twice about what they are doing on the court.

I'm not disagreeing with you Moose, but think about this... does a Big East Rookie of the Year, who's best attribute by far is his defense; have games like USF where the pg drove right at him time after time?  Or the Georgetown game where Lubick was 4 for 4 I think posting him up?   

He might end up deserving it, but I'm just saying... if defense is his calling card then maybe those things shouldn't be happening. 

I think Jakarr ends up bringing it home.   

You make it seem like a PG driving past a Center is uncommon thing.

Louisville is the bomb right now.  The way they just turned that UCONN game tonight around on a dime and went from 6-8 down to 17 up was very impressive. 

I like Syracuse a lot but without Southerland not sure they have the firepower to beat Louisville.  The game is at the Dome this Saturday.

Quote from: Choz4Life on January 14, 2013, 01:24:22 PM

Quote from: Moose on January 14, 2013, 11:17:06 AM

Quote from: paultzman on January 14, 2013, 11:16:26 AM

“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”

Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors.  Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.

nephew, who do you see as ROY contenders thus far?

Karr, Ryan A, and Omar are the only three Fresh in the Top 40 in BE scoring.  I liked Adams coming into the year but he's been all over the place and inconsistent.  Dunn hasnt lit the world on fire and Harrell is putting up nice numbers but not many MPG.

I'd say my top 5 would be Karr, Ryan A, Obekpa, Omar, Adams.

Thank you as always.

Louisville was scary good in that second half last night against Uconn.

Omar Calhoun had a nice game for Uconn. Wish we had a youngster that shot like that ( besides Harrison) .

Both teams, when they played well, Uconn in 1st half and Louisville in 2nd, proved PG is the most important position in the college game. Napier, Boatwright, and Siva.  We need a guy like that.  Is it Branch?  I'm not sure...at all

Interesting stat! Let's get another road win Saturday at DePaul.

“@kenpomeroy: In conference play, Big East teams are 11-18 at home. 4 games into season, 14 of 15 teams have a road win.”