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@HolyLandofHoops: Latest AP poll has Creighton #20, Marquette #25.  Villanova, Xavier and Georgetown receiving votes.

We're not gonna see votes unless we run table going into Cuse game.

We're not gonna see votes unless we run table going into Cuse game.

Sensing we will run table fwiw.

Quote from: Moose on November 25, 2013, 02:19:23 PM

We're not gonna see votes unless we run table going into Cuse game.

Sensing we will run table fwiw.

Your lips to God's ears.

Is it possible the BE could kick out Butler and replace them with UMass ?
Just huge mistake letting that program in knowing that Stevens would not be there much longer.

UMass has football

Is it possible the BE could kick out Butler and replace them with UMass ?
Just huge mistake letting that program in knowing that Stevens would not be there much longer.

Butler has been good for going on 20 years now

Is it possible the BE could kick out Butler and replace them with UMass ?
Just huge mistake letting that program in knowing that Stevens would not be there much longer.

And umass would be your choice? Butler isn't a flash in the pan program. They were good before Stevens.

Providence deserves votes.  I know I sound like Shurina here, but they look dangerous.

Providence deserves votes.  I know I sound like Shurina here, but they look dangerous.

They did in the coaches poll

No Mayo either;
@MarquetteMBB: ASU remains red hot from behind the 3-point line, draining 6-of-11 attempts. #mubb trails 33-18 with 7:52 left.

@BSnowScout: Marquette's early season struggles is one of the more baffling things. Just look lost without Cadougan and Vander Blue

@raphiellej: Much has been made of Marquette’s offensive issues, but you’re not winning on the road allowing a team to shoot 54% from the field. Down 10 at half.

Marquette looks awful IMO.  Not worried about them at all right now.  Too bad because we need them to be good but SJU better at this point.  Hope we hear about Jordan soon though...

Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today

Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today

We're the new A10.

Quote from: Redstormy80 on November 26, 2013, 12:09:34 AM

Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today

We're the new A10.

To be fair I think you gotta give the conference a few years to make a judgement like that. As a conference we are recruiting at a very high level so there are signs that this can still be a top league

Quote from: Poison on November 26, 2013, 12:13:12 AM

Quote from: Redstormy80 on November 26, 2013, 12:09:34 AM

Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today

We're the new A10.

To be fair I think you gotta give the conference a few years to make a judgement like that. As a conference we are recruiting at a very high level so there are signs that this can still be a top league

Why does the conference need time? These programs haven't changed. It's many of the same teams. DePaul is awful. Probably the worst high major team in the nation, yet again. I think if anything, the teams that have not pulled their weight need to recognize that it's their turn.

It took STJ 6 years to fire a complete nice person. But at least w Lavin, they are trying. There may not be a a top tier program in the BE this year, and that's dangerous going forward. If we play like we're the new A10, then that is what we are.

Personally, I think just about every program in the conference has the right to point the finger at us for sucking for so long. If the BE is going to survive, we have to man up.

Quote from: Poison on November 26, 2013, 12:13:12 AM

Quote from: Redstormy80 on November 26, 2013, 12:09:34 AM

Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today

We're the new A10.

To be fair I think you gotta give the conference a few years to make a judgement like that. As a conference we are recruiting at a very high level so there are signs that this can still be a top league

That's a compliment coming from the poison. He thought they were better then the bigeast last year.

Quote from: Redstormy80 on November 26, 2013, 12:19:17 AM

Quote from: Poison on November 26, 2013, 12:13:12 AM

Quote from: Redstormy80 on November 26, 2013, 12:09:34 AM

Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today

We're the new A10.

To be fair I think you gotta give the conference a few years to make a judgement like that. As a conference we are recruiting at a very high level so there are signs that this can still be a top league

That's a compliment coming from the poison. He thought they were better then the bigeast last year.

Better?

I get it that in the early part of the season, even good teams will sometimes slip up a few times because they look past an opposing team, and the underdog plays a great game and pulls off the upset.  Duke needed a last second free throw to edge out the Vermont Catamounts, at Duke, earlier this week, so sh!t happens.  Problem is, the new BE doesn't offer nearly as many redemption opportunities as the old BE (e.g., beat ND, Pitt , UConn, Cincy and a half dozen games against the weaker teams in the old BE, and you were likely dancing).  So unless the current BE teams either run the table against cupcakes and other mildly good teams before conference play, or schedule and win a few games against out-of-conference heavyweight programs, the teams in the new BE will not get much love from the polls, and to Poison's point, puts the BE in a very similar situation as the A10, imo.