Holy Cross - Game Discussion

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paultzman

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2012, 08:23:20 AM »
One man's prognosis on Sanchez availability and game commentary;


“@KieranDarcy: In an ugly win over Holy Cross, a new St. John's star sparked the Red Storm: http://t.co/nDhPRcJQ
That prognosis stinks.

Brilliant deduction! Ha!

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2012, 09:33:25 AM »
One man's prognosis on Sanchez availability and game commentary;


“@KieranDarcy: In an ugly win over Holy Cross, a new St. John's star sparked the Red Storm: http://t.co/nDhPRcJQ

I don't think that is based on any real info except that we haven't heard anything yet therefore it seems unlikely.

paultzman

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2012, 09:46:53 AM »
One man's prognosis on Sanchez availability and game commentary;


“@KieranDarcy: In an ugly win over Holy Cross, a new St. John's star sparked the Red Storm: http://t.co/nDhPRcJQ

I don't think that is based on any real info except that we haven't heard anything yet therefore it seems unlikely.

Obviously it was an opinion or gut feeling, nothing else.

paultzman

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #83 on: November 22, 2012, 10:01:30 AM »

St. John’s wins despite struggling on the glass
By LENN ROBBINS
Last Updated: 3:35 AM, November 22, 2012
Posted: 1:31 AM, November 22, 2012
For power-conference teams such as St. John’s, the non-conference portion of a schedule is the equivalent of a thief casing his next heist.

What you learn, and how you prepare to overcome the pitfalls in a job, could mean the difference between success and failure.

After five games, St. John’s knows the easiest way to get busted. The Johnnies, who posted a predictable 65-53 win over a gritty Holy Cross team Wednesday night at Carnesecca Arena, must find a way to keep teams off the glass.

It was unsettling, but understandable, when the Johnnies got outrebounded, 41-20, by a towering Baylor team in the consolation game of the Charleston Classic. But it is alarming the Red Storm got out rebounded, 35-31, by a Holy Cross team filled with non-scholarship players.

Anthony J. Causi
OBLOCKPA! St. John’s Chris Obekpa blocks Holy Cross’ Phil Beans, one of Obekpa’s six rejections in the Red Storm’s 65-53 victory last night at Carnesecca Arena.
“Lack of size would be my biggest concern,’’ St. John’s coach Steve Lavin said. “We have to win in a different way. We don’t have that [Shaquille O’Neal] or [Hakeem] Olajuwon. But what we do have is a number of players that have some nice length.’’

The Johnnies don’t have a dominating center waiting in the wings, but they could get some big-time help if 6-foot-9 post man Orlando Sanchez is cleared by the NCAA.

“Orlando Sanchez would help,’’ Lavin said jokingly. “If Orlando doesn’t end up joining the team, it’s going to be the same that it’s always been — boxing out, doing the drill work in practice every day, creating better basketball habits, communicating. When a shot goes up we need to get five players saying, ‘Shot!’ ”

Sanchez is the center that would give the Red Storm (3-2) the kind of physical body they don’t have. Christian Jones is a powerful player at 6-foot-7, 222 pounds, and Chris Obekpa, who was at it again last night with six more blocked shots (he has 23 in five games), is an athletic forward, but the Johnnies don’t come in bulk.

St. John’s still is awaiting word from the NCAA as to whether Sanchez, 24, will be cleared to play. This is not uncommon with foreign-born players. The NCAA needs to verify their age and that they did not receive an improper benefits prior to playing college ball.

With no guarantee the Red Storm will ever have Sanchez in the fold, whatever solutions must be found within.

“With our players, it doesn’t serve them well to get caught in a wrestling match with players on the box out,’’ Lavin said. “What they can do is check to impede progress and then use their bounce and quickness and length to go get the ball.

“If you have a player on your team that’s built like a brick house, like a DeJuan Blair, then it makes sense to have that player play the game like a pulling guard for the Packers and get into a wrestling match like a water buffalo. For our guys, the way they’re built, they need to get a low base.’’

The Red Storm, a little drained after playing three games in four days in Charleston and then facing Holy Cross the night before Thanksgiving, were sluggish in the first half. They trailed by as much as nine but rallied to tie it 30-30 at halftime.

Eventually the Red Storm’s superior athleticism won the night. They held Holy Cross (3-2) to 30-percent shooting in the second half and forced three shot-clock violations.

JaKarr Sampson scored a career-high 20 points on 10-of-15 shooting to go to along with seven rebounds, three assists, three steals and one blocked shot. D’Angelo Harrison added 17 and Phil Greene IV had 15 points. Holy Cross got 12 each from Dave Dudzinski and Justin Burrell.

“There was a sense of urgency,’’ said guard Felix Balamou, who played an active 22 minutes. “We’re supposed to win this game no matter how many games we played. This is our home court, we are supposed to protect it.’’

Now if only the Johnnies could learn to protect the glass.


 
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sju89tr

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2012, 10:04:47 AM »
One man's prognosis on Sanchez availability and game commentary;


“@KieranDarcy: In an ugly win over Holy Cross, a new St. John's star sparked the Red Storm: http://t.co/nDhPRcJQ

I don't think that is based on any real info except that we haven't heard anything yet therefore it seems unlikely.

I agree, I think it was his own opinion, the NCAA takes their sweet ass time when not reviewing cases for UCLA or Indiana.

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2012, 10:05:43 AM »
 Love the last quote from Felix..  He will quickly become a fan favorite.

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #86 on: November 22, 2012, 11:02:37 AM »
Love the last quote from Felix..  He will quickly become a fan favorite.

Where do you see a quote from Felix?

paultzman

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« Reply #87 on: November 22, 2012, 11:03:42 AM »
Love the last quote from Felix..  He will quickly become a fan favorite.

Where do you see a quote from Felix?

Second from last paragraph.

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« Reply #88 on: November 22, 2012, 11:28:41 AM »
Forgive this rather basic question, but how did Amir and Dom play?  Their stats were not very impressive, especially Dom's.  Is he still doing his defensive thing out there?

Whose minutes is Felix taking?

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #89 on: November 22, 2012, 11:41:14 AM »
Yeah, Felix was quoted as saying if you play really hard you will play, and that is what he does.

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« Reply #90 on: November 22, 2012, 02:06:06 PM »
Forgive this rather basic question, but how did Amir and Dom play?  Their stats were not very impressive, especially Dom's.  Is he still doing his defensive thing out there?

Whose minutes is Felix taking?

Amir was off. One of those games where nothing seems to mesh.

Pointer was a defensive force in the second half clamping down on the Cross point guard who could do no wrong in the first half..

Moose

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #91 on: November 22, 2012, 02:09:38 PM »
Forgive this rather basic question, but how did Amir and Dom play?  Their stats were not very impressive, especially Dom's.  Is he still doing his defensive thing out there?

Whose minutes is Felix taking?

Its going to be very interesting to see how Lavin juggles the minutes when we get back to 10 and even 11 players with Sanchez and Branch.  Posters will start threads about why their favorites aren't playing and why others are.  They will analyze body language of players not playing on the bench.

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #92 on: November 22, 2012, 02:32:53 PM »
Lavin quoted as saying he is concerned about our lack of height yet he doesn't seem to be recruiting any. ???

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« Reply #93 on: November 22, 2012, 02:35:39 PM »
Lavin quoted as saying he is concerned about our lack of height yet he doesn't seem to be recruiting any. ???

Well we do have a 6'9 guy being held out by NCAA ;)

And we are recruiting a 6'9 kid named Jermaine Lawrence.
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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #94 on: November 22, 2012, 02:41:18 PM »
Lavin quoted as saying he is concerned about our lack of height yet he doesn't seem to be recruiting any. ???

Well we do have a 6'9 guy being held out by NCAA ;)

And we are recruiting a 6'9 kid named Jermaine Lawrence.

And I think a guys actual height is overrated. All that matters is their rebounding ability and defense. Some of the best rebounders of all time were between 6'6'' and 6'9'' And we see from Obekpa that you don't have to be a giant tree to block shots either. As long as Lawrence and Sanchez have good big man skills, their actual height doesn't matter as much.

Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #95 on: November 22, 2012, 02:41:59 PM »
Lavin quoted as saying he is concerned about our lack of height yet he doesn't seem to be recruiting any. ???

Well we do have a 6'9 guy being held out by NCAA ;)

And we are recruiting a 6'9 kid named Jermaine Lawrence.
Don't believe either one is exactly a rebounding machine. We have Jakarr, CO and CJ how is that working out for us when we get out-rebounded by HC?

Moose

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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #96 on: November 22, 2012, 02:49:39 PM »
Lavin quoted as saying he is concerned about our lack of height yet he doesn't seem to be recruiting any. ???

Well we do have a 6'9 guy being held out by NCAA ;)

And we are recruiting a 6'9 kid named Jermaine Lawrence.
Don't believe either one is exactly a rebounding machine. We have Jakarr, CO and CJ how is that working out for us when we get out-rebounded by HC?

How many team rebounds were there because the box is showing us out rebounding them?

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=323262599

And if you recall I think rebounding stats are a wee bit over-rated.

We won by 12 and your saying we were outrebounded.  Yet we shot better from the field and were bad from the line.  Forced a ton of TO's which we didn't convert on well.  Blocked shots like crazy and kept good care of the ball.
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Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #97 on: November 22, 2012, 02:56:51 PM »
Stat  I heard was Cross 35-31 and Baylor 41-20. And I was quoting Lavin who said HE was concerned. Agree it is no height it is just I like to have a rebounding specialist to gobble up the majority (not literally) of the boards and I don't care if he is 5'2. We don't box out and don't seem to have a guy with a rebounding knack or nose for the ball off the boards. For all his muscle and athleticism so far I have not seen much rebounding from Mr. Jones.

Re: Holy Cross - Game Discussion
« Reply #98 on: November 22, 2012, 02:58:06 PM »
Would like to continue to talk turkey with you Moose but it is time to go eat some turkey. Happy Thanksgiving! :)

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« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2012, 03:34:46 PM »
Lavin quoted as saying he is concerned about our lack of height yet he doesn't seem to be recruiting any. ???

No nothing.  He didn't bring in a top 30 forward, top 100 center, and JUCO All-American forward.