Big East could vote to dissolve

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 13, 2012, 02:51:00 PM

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on December 13, 2012, 02:28:38 PM

Daily news says possible 9 team league....xavier and st
 Louis.

Dayton and Butler over st Louis everyday of the week. I want 12

How would you get to 12 with no STL then?

Id take St louis if there the 12th, but I might rather have VCU instead. My opinion is that Dayton and Butler should get the nod over St louis, if its not going to be all of them.

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 13, 2012, 02:51:00 PM

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on December 13, 2012, 02:28:38 PM

Daily news says possible 9 team league....xavier and st
 Louis.

Dayton and Butler over st Louis everyday of the week. I want 12

Rome wasn't built in a day.  Let's make the break first, create a strong, bb-only conference among the no-brainer, first available schools of choice (e.g., Xavier, St. Louis), and take things from there.

My opinion is that Dayton and Butler are more a "no brainer" than St. Louis.

The basketball schools "fast break" is something I have wanted since the dissolution of the conference started.  I like the idea that the 7 Catholic schools can form their own league on this break out and still have the automatic bid and possibly retain the name.  I would like to cap the league at 10 so we could have a true home and home conference season something none of th FB conferences will ever be able to do again.  In today's NY Times there is an interesting article on the place of college BB to college FB and how FB is the dag that wags the tail and the only thing that counts in college basketball is March Madness.  Well maybe a BB conference could have a recruiting edge in that the BB players are the top dogs, not secondary to FB players.

At last the Basketball schools have taken the initiative and shown that they have basketBALLS!!!!

Sadly, it will go down as a reaction, not action by Beast leadership, or their lack of leadership.  The scramble may salvage a decent conference, but the damage has been done.  As long as enough good basketball schools form the 10-12 team conference, it'll be fine.  But all the unprecedented upheaval of the past 3-4 years will be stabilized soon.


I see the Big 7 (8 with Temple) being very selective when they "modify" the league.  I would jettison the previous blueprint and do as others said on this board.  Keep it tight, get it right.  "Who is at the helm of this ship?"

Quote from: Moose on December 13, 2012, 03:03:43 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 13, 2012, 02:51:00 PM

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on December 13, 2012, 02:28:38 PM

Daily news says possible 9 team league....xavier and st
 Louis.

Dayton and Butler over st Louis everyday of the week. I want 12

How would you get to 12 with no STL then?

Id take St louis if there the 12th, but I might rather have VCU instead. My opinion is that Dayton and Butler should get the nod over St louis, if its not going to be all of them.

Is this the general consensus for the pool of 3 to 5 teams

Xavier
Butler
St Louis
Dayton
Creighton
VCU
Gonzaga
Richmond

My gut feeling is if you take Creighton then Gonzaga is going to be looked at heavily

I love Murray State but they add no value to the start up

No to St Joes as Nova would not want them - duplicate market
No to George Washington as G'Town would not want them  - duplicate market

Too bad no real match in Florida or Texas

On a side note, I couldn't be happier this happened

I still think ACC loses more teams and Uconn gets invite eventually

Dick Weiss ‏@NYDNDickWeiss

high ranking sources at st john's confirm school prez the rev. donald harrington has signed off on move for 7 cath schls to break from be

I guess this means it is not going to happen then...

I still think ACC loses more teams and Uconn gets invite eventually

I do too, personally UCONN will be the first to find a home but when all is said and done I think Cincinnati does too

South Florida, and Temple are in a really bad spot   

Quote from: desco80 on December 13, 2012, 02:22:29 PM

Dick Weiss ‏@NYDNDickWeiss

high ranking sources at st john's confirm school prez the rev. donald harrington has signed off on move for 7 cath schls to break from be

I guess this means it is not going to happen then...

I think Dick Weiss is reporting the news of 1979 when we were joining the Big East and leaving the ECAC, he just mixed up the name of our school Prez 

All South Florida and Temple and Memphis and UConn gotta do is realize their folly of fielding a fball team, drop the program and then we welcome them into our bball bossom with open arms.

I like a 9 or 10 team league. That gives you a perfect double round robin for a 16 or 18 game league schedule. I think rivalries ill be re-born and made anew by having every team at home every season. This is considering just basketball right now. If it doesnt work out for the other sports(not enough teams for a competitive league) 12 would be my second choice.

BE 7
Xavier
Butler
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Dayton
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St. Louis
VCU

Would be how I broke it down given my preffered options

All South Florida and Temple and Memphis and UConn gotta do is realize their folly of fielding a fball team, drop the program and then we welcome them into our bball bossom with open arms.

There will be some teams that drop football after all this dust settles.  I am curious to see who they are.

Tags as commish?

Tags as commish?

Him or Tranghese will be in the convo I believe.  Even if its temporary (2-3 yrs) to get league off the ground.

Am I being very naive to think we should retain the name "Big East".  StJ's along with many of the BB schools were the original BE.

Am I being very naive to think we should retain the name "Big East".  StJ's along with many of the BB schools were the original BE.

That is a priority, I'd believe.

Quote from: Choz4Life on December 13, 2012, 03:34:42 PM

All South Florida and Temple and Memphis and UConn gotta do is realize their folly of fielding a fball team, drop the program and then we welcome them into our bball bossom with open arms.

There will be some teams that drop football after all this dust settles.  I am curious to see who they are.

I doubt it unless they are still left out in cold after 2013

Quote from: Moose on December 13, 2012, 03:35:24 PM

Quote from: Choz4Life on December 13, 2012, 03:34:42 PM

All South Florida and Temple and Memphis and UConn gotta do is realize their folly of fielding a fball team, drop the program and then we welcome them into our bball bossom with open arms.

There will be some teams that drop football after all this dust settles.  I am curious to see who they are.

I doubt it unless they are still left out in cold after 2013

Won't be now.  It will be once dust settles and teams see how things shake and how tough it is to build schedules and such.

Love that we're breaking away.  Go Harrington Go!

Quote from: desco80 on December 13, 2012, 02:22:29 PM

Dick Weiss ‏@NYDNDickWeiss

high ranking sources at st john's confirm school prez the rev. donald harrington has signed off on move for 7 cath schls to break from be

I guess this means it is not going to happen then...

Quote from: Choz4Life on December 13, 2012, 03:34:42 PM

All South Florida and Temple and Memphis and UConn gotta do is realize their folly of fielding a fball team, drop the program and then we welcome them into our bball bossom with open arms.

There will be some teams that drop football after all this dust settles.  I am curious to see who they are.

Interesting observation.  Conn (the State) has spent many millions of state tax dollars to build FB stadium.  They will fight to get into a BCS conference.  But even further what will become of BCS in future--will the big boys (top 4 conferences) want all the money?  How will Temple ever compete with them?  Temple may have to admit that its FB is going "nowhere" and revert to the level that Nova plays at.  Temple is a good BB program; they have to wake up to reality.