Catholic 7 expected to keep Big East name

the acc has done all it can to make the big east irrelevant.  taking the garden would be the final shovel in the grave.

nassau coliseum, anyone?

the acc has done all it can to make the big east irrelevant.  taking the garden would be the final shovel in the grave.

nassau coliseum, anyone?

After all the positive news about our new league, you still think the AcC has rendered us irrelevant?  ACC still has threats of other schools defections looming.  If Maryland left, so can others.  Bottom line is that most schools in the ACC aren't going to want their conference tourney in NYC except Syracuse, Pitt and maybe Louisville under Pitino, and he won't be there forever.  I don't think all those fan bases will want to travel to NYC every season for it.  And once again, our new league will be far from irrelevant. 

I don't doubt they'd like eir league to get into MSG more often but I doubt every season they'll want to travel.

A feisty response from a favorite of mine, John Rooke, writer/announcer from Providence area,

“@JRbroadcaster: @SIPeteThamel Really, Pete?  Are you on the ACC payroll, now? Very disappointing. There's an MSG deal in place. Let's honor that first?”

“@JRbroadcaster: @SIPeteThamel Oh, and let's make sure there IS an ACC first, hmm? That alone would and should make MSG nervous.”

“@JRbroadcaster: @SIPeteThamel And one more thing.  This wouldn't have anything to do with your alma mater & Jim Boeheim, would it?  A little favor to him?”

That dudes article was not based on facts or anything. He basically was putting a fantasy situation out there.

Quote from: newsman13 on March 14, 2013, 12:05:12 PM

the acc has done all it can to make the big east irrelevant.  taking the garden would be the final shovel in the grave.

nassau coliseum, anyone?

After all the positive news about our new league, you still think the AcC has rendered us irrelevant?  ACC still has threats of other schools defections looming.  If Maryland left, so can others.  Bottom line is that most schools in the ACC aren't going to want their conference tourney in NYC except Syracuse, Pitt and maybe Louisville under Pitino, and he won't be there forever.  I don't think all those fan bases will want to travel to NYC every season for it.  And once again, our new league will be far from irrelevant. 

I don't doubt they'd like eir league to get into MSG more often but I doubt every season they'll want to travel.

marcus...not positive news, but positive spin.  no one is saying it's going to happen...but moving the acc into the garden and us to the pru/nassau coliseum (barclay's center is atlantic 10s) is something the acc could do.  they've been a cancer to the big east.

we're more irrelevant next season because dayton, creighton, st louis, etc aren't going to replace syracuse, pitt, notre dame, louisville, uconn, cincinnati and west virginia by a long shot.  no way, no how.

i'll follow the new big east...but after years and years of shitty basketball on our part, i have a right to be leery.

"2. The reason the new Big East might not start out with 12 schools in the fall instead of 10 is the lack of consensus among the seven schools forming the new league. The best-case scenario would be for the new Big East to start fresh with a dozen. But if there isn't agreement on the schools beyond 10, they will wait for another year. Butler and Xavier are the locks to get first invites, with a debate raging among different factions over Creighton and Dayton for No. 10. Saint Louis is the other school that could ultimately be in the group. Having a primarily basketball-driven conference isn't a new concept. It's called the Atlantic 10. Georgetown coach John Thompson III wasn't being sentimental about the end of the Big East on Thursday. He said the Big East isn't going anywhere and neither is the tournament. He's technically right."

“@ESPNAndyKatz: 3-point shot: Howland over Altman; Big East; Northwestern: http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/79430/3-point-shot-howland-over-altman”

Cuse minion takes some shots at GT;

“@SIPeteThamel: Its Georgetown's Tournament. And next year it'll be their league. Their power plays have caused some tension. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130315/georgetown-catholic-seven-tension/”

Cuse minion takes some shots at GT;

“@SIPeteThamel: Its Georgetown's Tournament. And next year it'll be their league. Their power plays have caused some tension. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130315/georgetown-catholic-seven-tension/”

I hope Gtown knocks the living crap out of Cuse tonight.

"NEW YORK-The Big East tournament loves New York. It will be back next season, with a smaller group of old and new members.

And according to sources, it very well could be in New York City permanently as the site of the new conference offices.

After a minor turf war involving Providence  in the North and Washington D.C. in the South, New York City was the midway compromise. Perhaps very close to the Fox television headquarters–which will be the new Big East’s new television big daddy, starting next season.

And you thought it was going to be all about just games during Big East tournament week.  Not in New York, with almost everyone here, not where conversations lead to rumors.

According to sources familiar with the discussions being held, the new Big East basketball league is also speeding up the process of hiring a commissioner, giving the search process to a group led by former Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebee

Don’t be stunned if the next commissioner has either New York and/or television ties. A name that might find its way to the search committee was Major League baseball Executive VP Tim Brosnan.  Brosnan played a key role in baseball’s lucrative television deal with Fox and could be regarded as the man to guide the new Big East through the early stages of its relationship with the new Fox Sports Cable outlet.

The next bit of business will be to expand from the 7 Catholic Big East schools forming the core group of the new league, with Butler and Xavier regarded as locks to join in 2013. The 10 team still looks like Creighton, although Dayton is getting some support.

The overall plan will be to eventually expand to 12 teams. Dayton would be in that mix, but so would Saint Louis and Georgetown is making a strong push for Richmond."

“@blauds: March Madness: Bracketology update http://ajerseyguy.com”

Just makes sense to have the league offices in NYC.

Just makes sense to have the league offices in NYC.

It should have been NYC all along.  The talk earlier in the week of Providence, DC or Chicago was plain stupid.  Sounds like they are smartening up in that regard.

“@CBTonNBC: Report: Catholic 7 will officially add Butler Xavier and Creighton before the NCAA tournament begins http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1lvN”

“@CBTonNBC: Report: Catholic 7 will officially add Butler Xavier and Creighton before the NCAA tournament begins http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1lvN”

Thanks Paultzman, that's a solid conference.  With the conference, msg, Fox money, we'll have the dollars to pay our coaches, we should be able to stay relevant and hopefully be good into perpetuity.

Creighton over vcu is a bad choice

Creighton over vcu is a bad choice

Creighton has been a consistently better program than VCU for the last 25 years.  Plus, I think VCU's fortunes are tied in to how long Shaka stays as HC.

Then again, you could make the same argument with Butler concerning Stevens.

Creighton, not my choice, is also a Jesuit institution. Maybe new Pope will buy season tickets.

Creighton, not my choice, is also a Jesuit institution. Maybe new Pope will buy season tickets.

LOL!  Don't mess with the Jesuits.  They're hardcore.

"NEW YORK-The Big East tournament loves New York. It will be back next season, with a smaller group of old and new members.

And according to sources, it very well could be in New York City permanently as the site of the new conference offices.

After a minor turf war involving Providence  in the North and Washington D.C. in the South, New York City was the midway compromise. Perhaps very close to the Fox television headquarters–which will be the new Big East’s new television big daddy, starting next season.

And you thought it was going to be all about just games during Big East tournament week.  Not in New York, with almost everyone here, not where conversations lead to rumors.

According to sources familiar with the discussions being held, the new Big East basketball league is also speeding up the process of hiring a commissioner, giving the search process to a group led by former Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebee

Don’t be stunned if the next commissioner has either New York and/or television ties. A name that might find its way to the search committee was Major League baseball Executive VP Tim Brosnan.  Brosnan played a key role in baseball’s lucrative television deal with Fox and could be regarded as the man to guide the new Big East through the early stages of its relationship with the new Fox Sports Cable outlet.

The next bit of business will be to expand from the 7 Catholic Big East schools forming the core group of the new league, with Butler and Xavier regarded as locks to join in 2013. The 10 team still looks like Creighton, although Dayton is getting some support.

The overall plan will be to eventually expand to 12 teams. Dayton would be in that mix, but so would Saint Louis and Georgetown is making a strong push for Richmond."

“@blauds: March Madness: Bracketology update http://ajerseyguy.com”

Richmond over Dayton is what I hope they are pushing.  Would even out geographically with 6 eastern teams, and 6 "western" teams. 

St. Louis needs to stay, IMO (full disclousre:  My father is a St. John's alum who now lives in the Gateway City).  They are a major market, and they have been putting a lot of their own money into athletics the last few years, including a new on-campus arena, which has drawn rave reviews (though I've never been to it).

Quote from: paultzman on March 15, 2013, 02:43:29 PM

"NEW YORK-The Big East tournament loves New York. It will be back next season, with a smaller group of old and new members.

And according to sources, it very well could be in New York City permanently as the site of the new conference offices.

After a minor turf war involving Providence  in the North and Washington D.C. in the South, New York City was the midway compromise. Perhaps very close to the Fox television headquarters–which will be the new Big East’s new television big daddy, starting next season.

And you thought it was going to be all about just games during Big East tournament week.  Not in New York, with almost everyone here, not where conversations lead to rumors.

According to sources familiar with the discussions being held, the new Big East basketball league is also speeding up the process of hiring a commissioner, giving the search process to a group led by former Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebee

Don’t be stunned if the next commissioner has either New York and/or television ties. A name that might find its way to the search committee was Major League baseball Executive VP Tim Brosnan.  Brosnan played a key role in baseball’s lucrative television deal with Fox and could be regarded as the man to guide the new Big East through the early stages of its relationship with the new Fox Sports Cable outlet.

The next bit of business will be to expand from the 7 Catholic Big East schools forming the core group of the new league, with Butler and Xavier regarded as locks to join in 2013. The 10 team still looks like Creighton, although Dayton is getting some support.

The overall plan will be to eventually expand to 12 teams. Dayton would be in that mix, but so would Saint Louis and Georgetown is making a strong push for Richmond."

“@blauds: March Madness: Bracketology update http://ajerseyguy.com”

Richmond over Dayton is what I hope they are pushing.  Would even out geographically with 6 eastern teams, and 6 "western" teams. 

St. Louis needs to stay, IMO (full disclousre:  My father is a St. John's alum who now lives in the Gateway City).  They are a major market, and they have been putting a lot of their own money into athletics the last few years, including a new on-campus arena, which has drawn rave reviews (though I've never been to it).

My order of preference after the obvious 2

St. Louis
VCU
Dayton
Creighton
Richmond

“@DavidTeelatDP: #ACC commish John Swofford just told me the league will take over Big East's 7 p.m. time slot next season on ESPN's Big Monday.”