Adonis DelaRosa - C - Christ The King - New York, NY - ST. JOHN'S

Who the hell cares?  Some of you are allowing your frustration over how the season ended (which is fair it was a lousy way to end a season that seemed to be heading in the right direction) into criticizing stuff that means nothing either way.

There are no games.  I mean he also said Jordan is one of the best guards he has ever recruited.  Guess what, he is probably right.  So what?

He knows the bottom line is he needs to build a consistent winner here.  To be a consistent NCAA team, which he has said MANY times.  Do you have a problem with that?

Let's say Lavin says Delarosa is  the next "Lew Alcindor."  Next year progresses the team does really well but Delarosa does not do well, struggles a little.    Is anyone on the board going to remember or care what Lavin says about Delarosa?  In other words are there going to be people on this board who say, "I can't enjoy this good season because I can't stand how Lavin tried to sell Delarosa to us last year."  Really?

The problem is that nearly everything that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self-serving and a lie. From pronouncements about recruits to BS about gelling and jam sessions to the excuses he makes when things inevitably cock up. He creates his own credibility problems by running his yap and it's perfectly reasonable for those who have been lied to to question everything they hear said thereafter, unless they're fools.

You are correct: if he won no one would care. He could spout all day long nonsense about peacocks and feather dusters and subway tokens and we'd lap it up. What a charmer we'd think. But he's not. He's a loser and close to a buffoon while doing so and the stink is on the rose. If he doesn't want to be mistaken for a clown he should take off the red nose and fright wig. If he wears them its not unreasonable for his get up to be a matter of discussion.

@AdamZagoria: All signs pointing to Adonis Delarosa becoming St. John's 1st 2014 commit later today...Follow @Ben_Baskin for coverage of the 230 presser.

Quote from: fordham96 on April 08, 2014, 08:49:48 PM

Who the hell cares?  Some of you are allowing your frustration over how the season ended (which is fair it was a lousy way to end a season that seemed to be heading in the right direction) into criticizing stuff that means nothing either way.

There are no games.  I mean he also said Jordan is one of the best guards he has ever recruited.  Guess what, he is probably right.  So what?

He knows the bottom line is he needs to build a consistent winner here.  To be a consistent NCAA team, which he has said MANY times.  Do you have a problem with that?

Let's say Lavin says Delarosa is  the next "Lew Alcindor."  Next year progresses the team does really well but Delarosa does not do well, struggles a little.    Is anyone on the board going to remember or care what Lavin says about Delarosa?  In other words are there going to be people on this board who say, "I can't enjoy this good season because I can't stand how Lavin tried to sell Delarosa to us last year."  Really?

The problem is that nearly everything that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self-serving and a lie. From pronouncements about recruits to BS about gelling and jam sessions to the excuses he makes when things inevitably cock up. He creates his own credibility problems by running his yap and it's perfectly reasonable for those who have been lied to to question everything they hear said thereafter, unless they're fools.

You are correct: if he won no one would care. He could spout all day long nonsense about peacocks and feather dusters and subway tokens and we'd lap it up. What a charmer we'd think. But he's not. He's a loser and close to a buffoon while doing so and the stink is on the rose. If he doesn't want to be mistaken for a clown he should take off the red nose and fright wig. If he wears them its not unreasonable for his get up to be a matter of discussion.

I disagree.

Quote from: Foad on April 09, 2014, 08:06:15 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 08, 2014, 08:49:48 PM

Who the hell cares?  Some of you are allowing your frustration over how the season ended (which is fair it was a lousy way to end a season that seemed to be heading in the right direction) into criticizing stuff that means nothing either way.

There are no games.  I mean he also said Jordan is one of the best guards he has ever recruited.  Guess what, he is probably right.  So what?

He knows the bottom line is he needs to build a consistent winner here.  To be a consistent NCAA team, which he has said MANY times.  Do you have a problem with that?

Let's say Lavin says Delarosa is  the next "Lew Alcindor."  Next year progresses the team does really well but Delarosa does not do well, struggles a little.    Is anyone on the board going to remember or care what Lavin says about Delarosa?  In other words are there going to be people on this board who say, "I can't enjoy this good season because I can't stand how Lavin tried to sell Delarosa to us last year."  Really?

The problem is that nearly everything that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self-serving and a lie. From pronouncements about recruits to BS about gelling and jam sessions to the excuses he makes when things inevitably cock up. He creates his own credibility problems by running his yap and it's perfectly reasonable for those who have been lied to to question everything they hear said thereafter, unless they're fools.

You are correct: if he won no one would care. He could spout all day long nonsense about peacocks and feather dusters and subway tokens and we'd lap it up. What a charmer we'd think. But he's not. He's a loser and close to a buffoon while doing so and the stink is on the rose. If he doesn't want to be mistaken for a clown he should take off the red nose and fright wig. If he wears them its not unreasonable for his get up to be a matter of discussion.

I disagree.

I don't doubt it. Just as I don't doubt that you'll change your mind and publicly apologize in 6 months. In other words, you're fickle.

@AdamZagoria: All signs pointing to Adonis Delarosa becoming St. John's 1st 2014 commit later today...Follow @Ben_Baskin for coverage of the 230 presser.

What are these signs? Didn't this kid say we weren't recruiting him hard? Or is he man enough not to need us to treat him a like a princess?

@AdamZagoria: All signs pointing to Adonis Delarosa becoming St. John's 1st 2014 commit later today...Follow @Ben_Baskin for coverage of the 230 presser.

HAMMER TO THE ROCK!

Quote from: fordham96 on April 09, 2014, 08:12:03 AM

Quote from: Foad on April 09, 2014, 08:06:15 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 08, 2014, 08:49:48 PM

Who the hell cares?  Some of you are allowing your frustration over how the season ended (which is fair it was a lousy way to end a season that seemed to be heading in the right direction) into criticizing stuff that means nothing either way.

There are no games.  I mean he also said Jordan is one of the best guards he has ever recruited.  Guess what, he is probably right.  So what?

He knows the bottom line is he needs to build a consistent winner here.  To be a consistent NCAA team, which he has said MANY times.  Do you have a problem with that?

Let's say Lavin says Delarosa is  the next "Lew Alcindor."  Next year progresses the team does really well but Delarosa does not do well, struggles a little.    Is anyone on the board going to remember or care what Lavin says about Delarosa?  In other words are there going to be people on this board who say, "I can't enjoy this good season because I can't stand how Lavin tried to sell Delarosa to us last year."  Really?

The problem is that nearly everything that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self-serving and a lie. From pronouncements about recruits to BS about gelling and jam sessions to the excuses he makes when things inevitably cock up. He creates his own credibility problems by running his yap and it's perfectly reasonable for those who have been lied to to question everything they hear said thereafter, unless they're fools.

You are correct: if he won no one would care. He could spout all day long nonsense about peacocks and feather dusters and subway tokens and we'd lap it up. What a charmer we'd think. But he's not. He's a loser and close to a buffoon while doing so and the stink is on the rose. If he doesn't want to be mistaken for a clown he should take off the red nose and fright wig. If he wears them its not unreasonable for his get up to be a matter of discussion.

I disagree.

I don't doubt it. Just as I don't doubt that you'll change your mind and publicly apologize in 6 months. In other words, you're fickle.

I am pickle not fickle.

And I disagree with your doubt.

But I do hope you are the first to post next season when SJU fans are actively rooting against SJU to win (in hopes they fire Lavin) and then lo and behold they win just like you posted that way during the Norm Roberts era.

For those who have it;

@msg_varsity: Today at 2:30, Christ the King's @adelarosa0920 and @DreWalker_ will announce their college choices on #MSGV_Live: http://t.co/YjpGhQX5PU

Quote from: Foad on April 09, 2014, 08:55:11 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 09, 2014, 08:12:03 AM

Quote from: Foad on April 09, 2014, 08:06:15 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 08, 2014, 08:49:48 PM

Who the hell cares?  Some of you are allowing your frustration over how the season ended (which is fair it was a lousy way to end a season that seemed to be heading in the right direction) into criticizing stuff that means nothing either way.

There are no games.  I mean he also said Jordan is one of the best guards he has ever recruited.  Guess what, he is probably right.  So what?

He knows the bottom line is he needs to build a consistent winner here.  To be a consistent NCAA team, which he has said MANY times.  Do you have a problem with that?

Let's say Lavin says Delarosa is  the next "Lew Alcindor."  Next year progresses the team does really well but Delarosa does not do well, struggles a little.    Is anyone on the board going to remember or care what Lavin says about Delarosa?  In other words are there going to be people on this board who say, "I can't enjoy this good season because I can't stand how Lavin tried to sell Delarosa to us last year."  Really?

The problem is that nearly everything that comes out of Lavin's mouth is self-serving and a lie. From pronouncements about recruits to BS about gelling and jam sessions to the excuses he makes when things inevitably cock up. He creates his own credibility problems by running his yap and it's perfectly reasonable for those who have been lied to to question everything they hear said thereafter, unless they're fools.

You are correct: if he won no one would care. He could spout all day long nonsense about peacocks and feather dusters and subway tokens and we'd lap it up. What a charmer we'd think. But he's not. He's a loser and close to a buffoon while doing so and the stink is on the rose. If he doesn't want to be mistaken for a clown he should take off the red nose and fright wig. If he wears them its not unreasonable for his get up to be a matter of discussion.

I disagree.

I don't doubt it. Just as I don't doubt that you'll change your mind and publicly apologize in 6 months. In other words, you're fickle.

I am pickle not fickle.

And I disagree with your doubt.

But I do hope you are the first to post next season when SJU fans are actively rooting against SJU to win (in hopes they fire Lavin) and then lo and behold they win just like you posted that way during the Norm Roberts era.

Fun backed Roberts until the end, mostly becuase he hated Jarvis I think

And did Fordham finally admit he is a prick? That is how I interpreted "Iam pickle" anyay

Looks like Henderson and Adonis are in.  That is 2 down for to go.  Hopefully we add another 2 bigs and 2 guards for future depth

Looks like Henderson and Adonis are in.  That is 2 down for to go.  Hopefully we add another 2 bigs and 2 guards for future depth

Henderson not in.  Most know Adonis is coming. I think you are confusing Thomas with Henderson.

Quote from: Trone on April 09, 2014, 10:56:35 AM

Looks like Henderson and Adonis are in.  That is 2 down for to go.  Hopefully we add another 2 bigs and 2 guards for future depth

Henderson not in.  Most know Adonis is coming. I think you are confusing Thomas with Henderson.

Is Thomas in. Hes just what the dr. ordered.?

Quote from: Trone on April 09, 2014, 10:56:35 AM

Looks like Henderson and Adonis are in.  That is 2 down for to go.  Hopefully we add another 2 bigs and 2 guards for future depth

Henderson not in.  Most know Adonis is coming. I think you are confusing Thomas with Henderson.

Herderson not it? Or not in yet?

Quote from: paultzman on April 09, 2014, 11:00:31 AM

Quote from: Trone on April 09, 2014, 10:56:35 AM

Looks like Henderson and Adonis are in.  That is 2 down for to go.  Hopefully we add another 2 bigs and 2 guards for future depth

Henderson not in.  Most know Adonis is coming. I think you are confusing Thomas with Henderson.

Herderson not it? Or not in yet?

Has not visited yet & not sure he is prime on radar.

Quote from: paultzman on April 09, 2014, 11:00:31 AM

Quote from: Trone on April 09, 2014, 10:56:35 AM

Looks like Henderson and Adonis are in.  That is 2 down for to go.  Hopefully we add another 2 bigs and 2 guards for future depth

Henderson not in.  Most know Adonis is coming. I think you are confusing Thomas with Henderson.

Is Thomas in. Hes just what the dr. ordered.?

Nothing official yet, but it seems SJU is well positioned. We'll see.

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 09, 2014, 11:09:13 AM

Quote from: paultzman on April 09, 2014, 11:00:31 AM

Quote from: Trone on April 09, 2014, 10:56:35 AM

Looks like Henderson and Adonis are in.  That is 2 down for to go.  Hopefully we add another 2 bigs and 2 guards for future depth

Henderson not in.  Most know Adonis is coming. I think you are confusing Thomas with Henderson.

Herderson not it? Or not in yet?

Has not visited yet & not sure he is prime on radar.

Thanks paultz

Fun backed Roberts until the end, mostly becuase he hated Jarvis I think

I don't know that backed is the right word. I recognized Norm's citizenship and integrity despite his atrocious results, protested attacks on his character, and delighted in the ineffectual whining of his detractors, because schadenfreude. I was mostly relieved when he got canned, as I will be whenever Bozo goes back to California.

Quote from: we are sju on April 09, 2014, 10:51:24 AM

Fun backed Roberts until the end, mostly becuase he hated Jarvis I think

I don't know that backed is the right word. I recognized Norm's citizenship and integrity despite his atrocious results, protested attacks on his character, and delighted in the ineffectual whining of his detractors, because schadenfreude. I was mostly relieved when he got canned, as I will be whenever Bozo goes back to California.

You turned on Big Head much quicker anyway. As for me they could hire Charles Manson or Calipari and I wouldn't care as long as we win. Lavin's act has gotten annoying becuase we stink. Same as the nice guy Norm thing. Just my opinion anyway. Don't need athletes, coaches, actors etc to be good guys, I can seperate.

Quote from: paultzman on April 09, 2014, 11:11:43 AM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 09, 2014, 11:09:13 AM

Quote from: paultzman on April 09, 2014, 11:00:31 AM

Quote from: Trone on April 09, 2014, 10:56:35 AM

Looks like Henderson and Adonis are in.  That is 2 down for to go.  Hopefully we add another 2 bigs and 2 guards for future depth

Henderson not in.  Most know Adonis is coming. I think you are confusing Thomas with Henderson.

Herderson not it? Or not in yet?

Has not visited yet & not sure he is prime on radar.

Thanks paultz

yes, thanks for the correction, i meant thomas

Many criticize Lavin for pumping up his players and spinning disappointments. How about viewing it through the prism of the real world. Ever hear a CEO explain a bad quarter by saying our sales team took three months off and our product is inferior to competition? Ever hear Obama say sorry folks, Obamacare may not have been a good idea? Ever hear our military say from the front, sorry Commander, we are getting our butts kicked. Leaders do what they can to pump up their team's confidence. Leaders spin what has happened while trying to make the result better. Leaders inspire optimism, not breed despair. The criticism of Lavin on this issue is sophomoric. Do you expect him to say --we have a new recruit with some gaps in his game and it is uncertain he will be able to improve? Or should he say, I see little hope for this team improving? Or, we keep going over this with players a and b in practice but can't seem to overcome their ego, or their lack of basketball iq? These criticisms of Lavin are just silly, and reflect a lack of experience in the real world. A press conference is not a Confessional. It's purpose is not to commit hari kari, but to put the best front on what is occurring for many good reasons--morale, public perception, confidence boosting, optimism, recruiting, etc etc. The first coach to stand up and say "This program is in hopeless shape " will also be a former coach. It is terrible leadership. All here say Roberts was a man of integrity. Anyone remember him saying, sorry guys, I am in over my head, or try as I might, I can't attract top recruits? Get real, guys.