Twitter and our Players

Moose, you are spot on with that. However, there is a new player (his identity is obvious) who is VERY into social media. There is a lot of positive that comes with this activity, but there's also a lot of trouble. If the new addition can adhere to the ban, I'd be very impressed and it would save a lot of trouble.

I'm sure the staff has ensured that he knows the policy before accepting commitment and such.  Maybe he is getting it out of his system now.  Personally I like social media.  But the person in question uses it a bit too much for my liking.  There are better things to do than tweet all day every waking second.

Quote from: steveyl15 on July 14, 2013, 05:50:40 PM

Moose, you are spot on with that. However, there is a new player (his identity is obvious) who is VERY into social media. There is a lot of positive that comes with this activity, but there's also a lot of trouble. If the new addition can adhere to the ban, I'd be very impressed and it would save a lot of trouble.

I'm sure the staff has ensured that he knows the policy before accepting commitment and such.  Maybe he is getting it out of his system now.  Personally I like social media.  But the person in question uses it a bit too much for my liking.  There are better things to do than tweet all day every waking second.

Good points.

Quote from: Foad on July 14, 2013, 04:09:39 PM

Quote from: MaineQB on July 14, 2013, 04:00:54 PM

Sweet kid who said something stupid.  Nobody here has ever said something they regret at 19...

Why do you find him sweet? I find him pretty chippy and hate his stupid phony grin. Sweet doesn't enter into it. What evidence is there that he thinks what he said was stupid or regrets saying that someone should be "shot in the head"?

I've had three interactions with CO.  Including one where he let my 2yr old ride on his shoulders for about 5 minutes.  He is a delightful, genuine kid who tweeted something reprehensible. 

The fact you hate how a 19 year old smiles is sad, and mostly pathetic.

Sweet and now delightful, you sound quite smitten.

Any run of the mill pedophile would happily let your daughter ride on his shoulders, I wouldn't read too much into it.

I didn't say anything about how he smiles. I said something about the stupid phony grin he plasters on his face every time he gets called for a foul. It's lame and he should stop.

Quote from: MaineQB on July 14, 2013, 04:41:13 PM

Quote from: Foad on July 14, 2013, 04:09:39 PM

Quote from: MaineQB on July 14, 2013, 04:00:54 PM

Sweet kid who said something stupid.  Nobody here has ever said something they regret at 19...

Why do you find him sweet? I find him pretty chippy and hate his stupid phony grin. Sweet doesn't enter into it. What evidence is there that he thinks what he said was stupid or regrets saying that someone should be "shot in the head"?

I've had three interactions with CO.  Including one where he let my 2yr old ride on his shoulders for about 5 minutes.  He is a delightful, genuine kid who tweeted something reprehensible. 

The fact you hate how a 19 year old smiles is sad, and mostly pathetic.

Sweet and now delightful, you sound quite smitten.

Any run of the mill pedophile would happily let your daughter ride on his shoulders, I wouldn't read too much into it.

I didn't say anything about how he smiles. I said something about the stupid phony grin he plasters on his face every time he gets called for a foul. It's lame and he should stop.

He should roll his eyes like another player.  Right?

I have never understood why anyone is on twitter

Quote from: MaineQB on July 14, 2013, 04:41:13 PM

Quote from: Foad on July 14, 2013, 04:09:39 PM

Quote from: MaineQB on July 14, 2013, 04:00:54 PM

Sweet kid who said something stupid.  Nobody here has ever said something they regret at 19...

Why do you find him sweet? I find him pretty chippy and hate his stupid phony grin. Sweet doesn't enter into it. What evidence is there that he thinks what he said was stupid or regrets saying that someone should be "shot in the head"?

I've had three interactions with CO.  Including one where he let my 2yr old ride on his shoulders for about 5 minutes.  He is a delightful, genuine kid who tweeted something reprehensible. 

The fact you hate how a 19 year old smiles is sad, and mostly pathetic.

Sweet and now delightful, you sound quite smitten.

Any run of the mill pedophile would happily let your daughter ride on his shoulders, I wouldn't read too much into it.

I didn't say anything about how he smiles. I said something about the stupid phony grin he plasters on his face every time he gets called for a foul. It's lame and he should stop.

Disturbing

I have never understood why anyone is on twitter

One reason: it's a way to get news from the writers and publications that you read-and it's all in the same place. Is that a good reason?

Quote from: gman on July 15, 2013, 08:40:55 AM

I have never understood why anyone is on twitter

One reason: it's a way to get news from the writers and publications that you read-and it's all in the same place. Is that a good reason?

I guess I can see news being a good source but I don't understand athletes or the average joe being on there

Quote from: Poison on July 15, 2013, 09:40:48 AM

Quote from: gman on July 15, 2013, 08:40:55 AM

I have never understood why anyone is on twitter

One reason: it's a way to get news from the writers and publications that you read-and it's all in the same place. Is that a good reason?

I guess I can see news being a good source but I don't understand athletes or the average joe being on there

Well where is the line drawn between a news source and a regular Joe.  People want to be in conversations and Twitter allows them the ability to communicate with legit news sources as well as athletes, celebs, and other people.

I don't see the big deal with Twitter and such.  People just say dumb things sometimes.

I love twitter.  Good source for info and discussion.  Unfortunately, also an unlimited supply of idiocy.

I love twitter.  Good source for info and discussion.  Unfortunately, also an unlimited supply of idiocy.

Just add alcohol and watch the fun...remember when times were simpler and we only had drunk texting that only went to a few people and not the world.

When I was a kid we only had drunk dialing.  And yes, we dialed a phone.  You know how to dial don't you?  Just put your finger in the hole and make tiny little circles.  Name the movie . . .

When I was a kid we only had drunk dialing.  And yes, we dialed a phone.  You know how to dial don't you?  Just put your finger in the hole and make tiny little circles.  Name the movie . . .

I hadn't seen a body put together like that since I'd solved the case of the Murdered Girl with the Big Tits.

Quote from: Foad on July 14, 2013, 04:09:39 PM

Quote from: MaineQB on July 14, 2013, 04:00:54 PM

Sweet kid who said something stupid.  Nobody here has ever said something they regret at 19...

Why do you find him sweet? I find him pretty chippy and hate his stupid phony grin. Sweet doesn't enter into it. What evidence is there that he thinks what he said was stupid or regrets saying that someone should be "shot in the head"?

Obviously stupid to tweet that, but basically he is saying that a murderer should be killed, not just "someone." It was a tweet out of emotion. I know tons of people who feel the same way as Chris. Although I'm surprised he hasn't deleted it yet.

Not getting involved in discussing aspects of the case but if CO referenced Zimmerman and you are also, calling him a murderer is factually incorrect as he was found not guilty (even of the lesser included charge of manslaughter).

Quote from: Poison on July 15, 2013, 09:40:48 AM

Quote from: gman on July 15, 2013, 08:40:55 AM

I have never understood why anyone is on twitter

One reason: it's a way to get news from the writers and publications that you read-and it's all in the same place. Is that a good reason?

I guess I can see news being a good source but I don't understand athletes or the average joe being on there

That's because they're not smart enough to use it correctly.

I really hope all the players adhere to the social media ban that comes with the season. Honestly, if some sort of sanction came as a result of social media, I'd only have the staff to blame for that. This is very avoidable.

What sanction could come from a post a player makes on social media?   
And I for one do have a problem with the twitter-ban.  It sends a poor message.
Guys should be able to say what they want.   They're students, not full time employees, and not yet even adults.   College should be an open forum of ideas, and in almost every other respect universities go out of their way to promote dialogue and allow even the most outrageous ideas to be voiced - whether it be on campus, in student publications, art exhibits, whatever it may be.    The athletic department shouldn't be above that.
 
If a player had participated in a rally on campus, or in Times Square, and had a sign or made a speech with the same message as chris's tweet did - should the school ban him from doing that?  Twitter shouldn't be looked at any differently. 
What if he was talking at an anti-war protest in 1969?  Or even 2006?   Or, what if it had been a tea-party rally in 2009?  Should he be blanketly banned from speaking at those events?    The point is, the subject and the message should be irrelevant.   College students shouldn't have their speech so heavily restrained just because they choose to play a sport.
 
And, if the staff and administration are truly worried that athletes might say something that tarnishes the school's reputation, then maybe they should reconsider who they recruit and how they weigh the balance between good representative of the school vs athletic ability.   
The problem is, they don't want to have to do that.  So, they ban kids from talking.   Not cool in my opinion.

Well if someone tweeted:  Thanks Coach for the new car!   I think sanctions would be forthcoming and a bit more.  :0

I don't have a problem with twitter, but they should stop with the poor language, especially when you are a representative of the school.  If I was on social media using the N word constantly it would cause problems in my career.

Quote from: steveyl15 on July 14, 2013, 05:42:33 PM

I really hope all the players adhere to the social media ban that comes with the season. Honestly, if some sort of sanction came as a result of social media, I'd only have the staff to blame for that. This is very avoidable.

What sanction could come from a post a player makes on social media?   
And I for one do have a problem with the twitter-ban.  It sends a poor message.
Guys should be able to say what they want.   They're students, not full time employees, and not yet even adults.   College should be an open forum of ideas, and in almost every other respect universities go out of their way to promote dialogue and allow even the most outrageous ideas to be voiced - whether it be on campus, in student publications, art exhibits, whatever it may be.    The athletic department shouldn't be above that.
 
If a player had participated in a rally on campus, or in Times Square, and had a sign or made a speech with the same message as chris's tweet did - should the school ban him from doing that?  Twitter shouldn't be looked at any differently. 
What if he was talking at an anti-war protest in 1969?  Or even 2006?   Or, what if it had been a tea-party rally in 2009?  Should he be blanketly banned from speaking at those events?    The point is, the subject and the message should be irrelevant.   College students shouldn't have their speech so heavily restrained just because they choose to play a sport.
 
And, if the staff and administration are truly worried that athletes might say something that tarnishes the school's reputation, then maybe they should reconsider who they recruit and how they weigh the balance between good representative of the school vs athletic ability.   
The problem is, they don't want to have to do that.  So, they ban kids from talking.   Not cool in my opinion.

I understand your point but I disagree with you for the following reasons.
1. He is not just a regular student he is on the flagship team that is at the front of representing the school. His actions and words due represent the school if he likes or not.
2. Saying what ever you want on twitter is Being selfish to your teammates. If the team is successful, the focus shod be on the team not on one player on the team. Johnny Football is the perfect example. A UTSA football player punch two girls and a guy in a bar in 6th street in Austin. The front page of the Texas sports pages was Johnny Football paying a fine for a fake ID basically.
3. Kids today do not understand the dangers of Twitter, and the consequences that go with their instant thoughts. Words have consequences and they can haunt you for a long time or maybe the rest of his life. What he should have done was turn off the twitter calm down and then write out a tweet has been thought out.
4. I hope the coaches do talk to students about going to protests because even if they are peaceful there can be some consequences, and God forbid if the protest turns violent and they are in at the wrong place at the wrong time. It would be a shame if they get lumped in with a group of hooligans who march to cause trouble not because they believe in a cause.

Fair or unfair when the students put on their uniforms they do give up some of their rights.

 
And I for one do have a problem with the twitter-ban.  It sends a poor message.
Guys should be able to say what they want.   They're students, not full time employees, and not yet even adults.   College should be an open forum of ideas, and in almost every other respect universities go out of their way to promote dialogue and allow even the most outrageous ideas to be voiced - whether it be on campus, in student publications, art exhibits, whatever it may be.    The athletic department shouldn't be above that.

Colleges should be an open forum of ideas but are not. They are instead monoliths of liberalism and political correctness: more than half have speech codes that force students to conform to "progressive" ideas about civility and society. It is to me strange considering the licentiousness with which college students live that the one thing academics think they need to be protected from is ideas; stranger still that the students take it. That said, I agree that there should not be - and possibly cannot be - official restrictions on the players speech, even if they, like Obekpa, counsel the murder of those whose behavior offends them. In his defense CO lived most of his life in Nigeria, a socialist totalitarian shithole, and probably has only the barest understanding of the implications of living in a free society. It must be overwhelming for him to live in a society that does not amputate the limbs of those found guilty of theft and where women have intact clitorises, so perhaps he should be forgiven for his over reaction.