San Francisco State Exhibiton Game

The team looked winded to me.

Pretty telling that Jones and Felix didn't see any time.  Don't like the Jones thing as I'm on record. 

Gift played WAY too much and was lost.  Of course less time for him and Sanchez when Chris plays.  I liked what I saw from Sanchez.  If thats what I get after a year of rust I'm very pleased.  He rebounds hard, has arguably the 3rd best handle on the team sadly.

Dee was in mid season form and a delight to watch.  Him and Rysheed will be dangerous.  Rysheed likes to drive but if we lolly gag the ball around the perimeter he won't get that chance.  Notice in the 2nd half he did get those chances and embraces the contact and can hit it or dish it.

Karr was lost today but I'm fine with that.  Yeah he took too many 3's considering last year he didn't hit one.  But that's what exhibitions are for.  To try things out when it doesn't matter.  We need him to become better from out there so fine.

Don't understand the few minutes Branch saw.  Phil was Phil.  Drive Phil your good at it.  Stop with fade away jumpers.

It's an exhibition so its hard to tell whats real and whats experimental but that was not an encouraging  showing.

In other news, it appeared we played exclusively man to man defense today.  So, that might be a sign that the matchup-zone is a thing of the past. 

In other news, it appeared we played exclusively man to man defense today.  So, that might be a sign that the matchup-zone is a thing of the past. 

What would you say the percentage was because I saw a good deal of zone tendencies. 
That being said I was more focused on the offense.

Quote from: desco80 on November 02, 2013, 08:58:29 PM

In other news, it appeared we played exclusively man to man defense today.  So, that might be a sign that the matchup-zone is a thing of the past. 

What would you say the percentage was because I saw a good deal of zone tendencies. 
That being said I was more focused on the offense.

I thought there's was a lot more man.  But I could be mistaken.   Truthfully when I looked at the D it was to we how we handled the screens and sometimes we fought through (weakly) and sometimes we switched (ineffectiveky).   So you could be right.  But it felt like a lot of man to me.

And I agree with your assessment of some of our guys looking a bit winded, and also wanting to see more Branch.  I liked when we had Branch Harrison and Jordan on the floor w Jakarr and Orlando.   Would like to see more of that lineup on Monday.   And if it still doesn't work, then move on, but test it out some more. 

I'm not picking on Dom, he actually hustles and plays with intensity. However I just don't understand this quote. The majority of the team are juniors...why is playing hard every night still a question? It has to be automatic. Very frustrating.

Junior Forward/Guard Sir'Dominic Pointer

On today's performance:

"I feel good that they came ready to play. It showed us that we have to come ready to play and play hard every time."

Quote from: desco80 on November 02, 2013, 08:58:29 PM

In other news, it appeared we played exclusively man to man defense today.  So, that might be a sign that the matchup-zone is a thing of the past. 

What would you say the percentage was because I saw a good deal of zone tendencies. 
That being said I was more focused on the offense.

I didn't notice any zone at all.  I was thinking maybe I missed it but I think they went man the whole game.

@RogRubin: St. John's survives exhibition game. Stud freshman Rysheed Jordan excels. The NYDN story: http://t.co/j9UEQ3617l.

In other news, it appeared we played exclusively man to man defense today.  So, that might be a sign that the matchup-zone is a thing of the past. 

I hope so, but we played man to man like we've never heard of the concept. We were incredibly slow. It was pathetic. SFS would set a pick, and it worked almost every time. That's unacceptable. I'm disappointed, because i think if you're an up and coming program, at some point, you have to be ready to play, and were weren't for a lot of reasons.

Two years ago, we said, hey, they're freshman. What happened this time?

In other news, it appeared we played exclusively man to man defense today.  So, that might be a sign that the matchup-zone is a thing of the past. 

I was actually more excited that I didn't see the 'weave' offense... I hope that has been laid to rest.

Quote from: desco80 on November 02, 2013, 08:58:29 PM

In other news, it appeared we played exclusively man to man defense today.  So, that might be a sign that the matchup-zone is a thing of the past. 

I was actually more excited that I didn't see the 'weave' offense... I hope that has been laid to rest.

They might not have weaved but we still had 4 even 5 guys passing the ball around the perimeter.  All the same to me.

I'm not picking on Dom, he actually hustles and plays with intensity. However I just don't understand this quote. The majority of the team are juniors...why is playing hard every night still a question? It has to be automatic. Very frustrating.

Junior Forward/Guard Sir'Dominic Pointer

On today's performance:

"I feel good that they came ready to play. It showed us that we have to come ready to play and play hard every time."

I think he was talking about San Fran state.  I took it as he was glad they had a hard fought game. 

A bit concerned with the offense. It didn't look like much changed in terms of lack of penetration. Hopefully Rysheed will change that eventually.

Quote from: bk8664 on November 02, 2013, 11:11:50 PM

Quote from: desco80 on November 02, 2013, 08:58:29 PM

In other news, it appeared we played exclusively man to man defense today.  So, that might be a sign that the matchup-zone is a thing of the past. 

I was actually more excited that I didn't see the 'weave' offense... I hope that has been laid to rest.

They might not have weaved but we still had 4 even 5 guys passing the ball around the perimeter.  All the same to me.

I hear you, but we can make ourselves feel by repeating the cliche to ourselves "one step at a time" ... but hopefully they take 38 steps by Monday night.

The team looked winded to me.

Pretty telling that Jones and Felix didn't see any time.  Don't like the Jones thing as I'm on record. 

Gift played WAY too much and was lost.  Of course less time for him and Sanchez when Chris plays.  I liked what I saw from Sanchez.  If thats what I get after a year of rust I'm very pleased.  He rebounds hard, has arguably the 3rd best handle on the team sadly.

Dee was in mid season form and a delight to watch.  Him and Rysheed will be dangerous.  Rysheed likes to drive but if we lolly gag the ball around the perimeter he won't get that chance.  Notice in the 2nd half he did get those chances and embraces the contact and can hit it or dish it.

Karr was lost today but I'm fine with that.  Yeah he took too many 3's considering last year he didn't hit one.  But that's what exhibitions are for.  To try things out when it doesn't matter.  We need him to become better from out there so fine.

Don't understand the few minutes Branch saw.  Phil was Phil.  Drive Phil your good at it.  Stop with fade away jumpers.

Branch couldn't keep up with their guards. He had 3 fouls in what seemed like 5 minutes. What was your problem w Gift? He actually played well in the second half. While Sanchez was popping fade away jumpers (and missing them all) Gift was going strong to the basket.

I'd like to every player go strong to the basket. They played like scared little girls yesterday.

Guys are way too excited (negatively) about this game.  We should have won by a biggerr margin but it is just the first exhibition game of the year.  Little can be taken from the result.

“@tarik4turner: Although #SJUBB beat SF St, they have work to do. Defensive breakdowns & Turnovers were the issue. Good learning points for Lav & crew.”

Quote from: Moose on November 02, 2013, 08:40:10 PM

The team looked winded to me.

Pretty telling that Jones and Felix didn't see any time.  Don't like the Jones thing as I'm on record. 

Gift played WAY too much and was lost.  Of course less time for him and Sanchez when Chris plays.  I liked what I saw from Sanchez.  If thats what I get after a year of rust I'm very pleased.  He rebounds hard, has arguably the 3rd best handle on the team sadly.

Dee was in mid season form and a delight to watch.  Him and Rysheed will be dangerous.  Rysheed likes to drive but if we lolly gag the ball around the perimeter he won't get that chance.  Notice in the 2nd half he did get those chances and embraces the contact and can hit it or dish it.

Karr was lost today but I'm fine with that.  Yeah he took too many 3's considering last year he didn't hit one.  But that's what exhibitions are for.  To try things out when it doesn't matter.  We need him to become better from out there so fine.

Don't understand the few minutes Branch saw.  Phil was Phil.  Drive Phil your good at it.  Stop with fade away jumpers.

Branch couldn't keep up with their guards. He had 3 fouls in what seemed like 5 minutes. What was your problem w Gift? He actually played well in the second half. While Sanchez was popping fade away jumpers (and missing them all) Gift was going strong to the basket.

I'd like to every player go strong to the basket. They played like scared little girls yesterday.

Sanchez rimmed out on a few jumpers but finished with 9 points, 10rebounds, 4assists, 4 steals and 2 blocks.  I'd say more than solid first outing.

Guys are way too excited (negatively) about this game.  We should have won by a biggerr margin but it is just the first exhibition game of the year.  Little can be taken from the result.

You're right, but when is a STJ team going to come out ready? SFS came out ready. It seems like we are always a work in progress. That is frustrating. Lavin said that they'll play their best ball in 3 months, but that shouldn't mean that we're a mess until then.

Takeaways.

Sanchez and Jordan looked good. 

Defense was atrocious.  We play an ole defense looking for steals and blocks.  We are in for more of the same if we can't teach these guys better defensive philosophies.