Rysheed Coming Out Party

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Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #300 on: February 13, 2014, 03:27:59 PM »
Wait Branch has improved from last year till this year but I honestly don't think that says much about him as a player because I don't even think he was a D 1 level player.  Guys on Chaminade are better than him and that is D 3 I think.

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« Reply #301 on: February 13, 2014, 03:29:41 PM »
 if you say so...  I'm shocked at your response. ( not really). 


Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #302 on: February 13, 2014, 03:33:09 PM »
it always come back to baldi
He will now be referred to as Power Baldi because he just missed winning the 240 million the other night by 1 number

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Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #303 on: February 13, 2014, 03:37:27 PM »

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Rysheed, D-lo, Obekpa, Phil, and Gift have all improved a lot, imo, since they started playing at St. John's... 


Harrison was just as good as a freshman as he is now, Greene hasn't improved much he was a surprise as a freshman and has pretty much been the same since just his role changes a lot, Opekpa is the same defensively as last year just more inconsistent this year and lets not crown him as a good offensive player based off 3 games because look at the 3 games prior and they are scary. Jordan there is no way to tell if he has improved because he plays more now and he as well is a very inconsistent player as of now but that is something that definitely could change.  Gift is no better this year than he was 2 years ago he is the same player who just plays less he will give you tough minutes, still has terrible hands, and does very little offensively.  I honestly don't think any of the players you named have mad significant improvements.

The year under Dunlap from beginning of the year to end of the year I would say every player improved during those 4 months but since then not so much.  It was fun watching Dunlap coach those guys even know they came up on the short end more times than not.  I love seeing players improve throughout the year and get better throughout their careers just doesn't seem to be happening much around Jamaica.

Your distaste for Lavin is becoming amusing.

Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #304 on: February 13, 2014, 03:38:43 PM »

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Rysheed, D-lo, Obekpa, Phil, and Gift have all improved a lot, imo, since they started playing at St. John's... 


Harrison was just as good as a freshman as he is now, Greene hasn't improved much he was a surprise as a freshman and has pretty much been the same since just his role changes a lot, Opekpa is the same defensively as last year just more inconsistent this year and lets not crown him as a good offensive player based off 3 games because look at the 3 games prior and they are scary. Jordan there is no way to tell if he has improved because he plays more now and he as well is a very inconsistent player as of now but that is something that definitely could change.  Gift is no better this year than he was 2 years ago he is the same player who just plays less he will give you tough minutes, still has terrible hands, and does very little offensively.  I honestly don't think any of the players you named have mad significant improvements.

The year under Dunlap from beginning of the year to end of the year I would say every player improved during those 4 months but since then not so much.  It was fun watching Dunlap coach those guys even know they came up on the short end more times than not.  I love seeing players improve throughout the year and get better throughout their careers just doesn't seem to be happening much around Jamaica.

Your distaste for Lavin is becoming amusing.
I can't fault him since Lavin took over his job here. lol

Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #305 on: February 13, 2014, 03:45:13 PM »
Desco -- agree 100% that if you can get first round money, you take it.  But I do think that guys can develop in college and improve their draft status, so there is something to be gained from staying in school.  I know the D-league is becoming more of a viable option, but remember that 19 an 20 year olds leaving early are also competing with a lot of grown men for those roster spots, who have been training at their craft professionally for years.  Plenty of kids get phased out who make the leap too early. 

Omar Cook has made a lot of money overseas, as Foad points out.  But had he stayed in school, improved his jumper and developed his game more, was there a chance he could have been drafted in the lottery, made even more money, and stuck around in the NBA longer (which is where all these guys eventually want to get)?

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« Reply #306 on: February 13, 2014, 07:00:34 PM »
It's not about making it in the NBA

It's about a gauranteed contract for millions.

If you get drafted in the 2nd round, and don't have the skills to make it, you get flushed out.

If you get drafted in the 1st round, whether you have the talent or not, that money is guaranteed.

The caveat for staying in school is getting drafted higher, getting that guaranteed money, and then whether you make it or not, at least you got that ONE contract. 

Bingo!

Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #307 on: February 13, 2014, 11:29:41 PM »
Where would this team be without Jordan.  Again he does not look like "he is trying to get his" but instead making all his teammates better especially Chris.  Right Marco

Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #308 on: February 14, 2014, 12:10:16 AM »
Tip of the iceberg!

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Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #309 on: February 14, 2014, 10:33:31 AM »
Harrison was just as good as a freshman as he is now

 Ridiculous.

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Greene hasn't improved much

Absurd.

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Opekpa is the same

Nonsense

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  Jordan there is no way to tell

Codswallop.

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Gift is no better this year than he was 2 years ago


See also: blind pig, truffle

It's not so much that you're wrong, it's that you're so tedious about it.



Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #310 on: February 14, 2014, 10:44:02 AM »
Next season if Jordan is going to be here the offense has to be more uptempo. It is like having a Thoroughbred horse and making him a trotter.

Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #311 on: February 14, 2014, 10:58:33 AM »
 
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Quote from: Needs2go on February 13, 2014, 03:24:58 PM

Harrison was just as good as a freshman as he is now

Ridiculous.

Harrison

                                           Frosh                                        Junior
PPG                                      16.8                                             18
Reb                                        3.9                                             4.4
Assts                                      2.0                                             1.6
Steals                                     1.6                                              1.1
FG %                                       37%                                          39%
FT                                            80%                                         86%
3PT%                                      36%                                          36%


Yeah so ridiculous why don't you take your head out of your ass
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Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #312 on: February 14, 2014, 11:08:51 AM »
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Quote from: Needs2go on February 13, 2014, 03:24:58 PM

Harrison was just as good as a freshman as he is now

Ridiculous.

Harrison

                                           Frosh                                        Junior
PPG                                      16.8                                             18
Reb                                        3.9                                             4.4
Assts                                      2.0                                             1.6
Steals                                     1.6                                              1.1
FG %                                       37%                                          39%
FT                                            80%                                         86%
3PT%                                      36%                                          36%


Yeah so ridiculous why don't you take your head out of your ass

More points and rebounds and fewer TOs as a junior, in 5 minutes fewer a game, with better FT and FG percentage. That comprises improvement. He's also now a mature team leader, as opposed to a psychopath then. HTH. If you need more basketball lessons let me know.

Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #313 on: February 14, 2014, 11:18:58 AM »
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He's also now a mature team leader, as opposed to a psychopath then. HTH. If you need more basketball lessons let me know.

LOL he is far from a team leader.  This team desperately lacks leadership and just because he doesn't eye down the ref after every bad call doesn't make him a leader.  Peoples whose favorite hobby is to eat lunch by themselves doesn't ooze leadership to me it means stay away from me I don't want to be bothered.  And 2% isn't much an improvement when you consider going from 37% to 39%.  Wow what an amazing improvement.  You come across and more and more clueless every time you post will be interesting what you have to say next. Possibly that Sanchez has improved as a defender.
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Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #314 on: February 14, 2014, 11:28:05 AM »
Peoples whose favorite hobby is to eat lunch by themselves doesn't ooze leadership to me it means stay away from me I don't want to be bothered.  And 2% isn't much an improvement when you consider going from 37% to 39%.  Wow what an amazing improvement.  You come across and more and more clueless every time you post will be interesting what you have to say next. Possibly that Sanchez has improved as a defender.

As far as I'm aware Harrison doesn't each lunch during the games, and that you think his culinary habits are related to his leadership of the basketball team says volumes. Perhaps you think Lavin needs2go so he can be replaced by Mario Batali or Betty Crocker. Anyway, having proved to you that Harrison has improved in nearly every statistical categories over the course of his career my work here is done.



Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #315 on: February 14, 2014, 11:32:33 AM »

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As far as I'm aware Harrison doesn't each lunch during the games, and that you think his culinary habits are related to his leadership of the basketball team says volumes.

A leader leads on and off the court something I am sure you would have no clue about.

And since you are such a smart ass please give me one example of Harrison being a leader of this team.  Just one

Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #316 on: February 14, 2014, 11:35:34 AM »
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Anyway, having proved to you that Harrison has improved in nearly every statistical categories over the course of his career my work here is done.[/quote

Yeah you argued that case perfectly you made me look like a total fool.  He has gone up in 2 categories, down in 2 and has gone up a miniscule amount in 2 percentages and of course he must be a much better player.  Your argument losses some stigma since Harrison put those numbers up in the OLD Big East not this soft conference they play in now.  Big difference but those tiny percentage points obviously makes you right. 

Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #317 on: February 14, 2014, 11:40:52 AM »
Toad, if you had any common sense or real knowledge of the game you wouldn't acknowledge 2% in FG% as an improvement it is kind of laughable.  Would you Mr. Toad go around telling people Harrison has improved as a shooter and you argument is that he went up a whooping 2%.  You are a clown my friend hope Valentine's Day isn't too lonely for you

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Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #318 on: February 14, 2014, 11:40:56 AM »
please give me one example of Harrison being a leader of this team.  Just one

Of course, since you say "please." As I said I'm happy to give you basketball lessons. One example of Harrison being a team leader would be in the Creighton game, where he scored all of Saint John's points in the last 5 and a half minutes, including a dagger three and a bunch of pressure free throws, to go along with 2 rebounds and a steal. In that game he acted as a leader by carrying the team on his back to victory. HTH.

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Re: Rysheed Coming Out Party
« Reply #319 on: February 14, 2014, 11:46:50 AM »
Toad, if you had any common sense or real knowledge of the game you wouldn't acknowledge 2% in FG% as an improvement it is kind of laughable.  Would you Mr. Toad go around telling people Harrison has improved as a shooter and you argument is that he went up a whooping 2%.  You are a clown my friend hope Valentine's Day isn't too lonely for you

It's FOAD, with an F. As in Feel Free to. Other than that I am disinclined to sully this august forum by descending into name calling, and especially with a rhetorical feeb such as yourself.