Sanchez reminds me of.......

Quote from: boo3 on December 16, 2013, 07:16:09 PM

Cuffe isn't close.   He was terrible.

In the first place, Cuffe averaged 12 and 7 as a senior, whereas Sanchez is averaging 6 and 5 as a 30 year old. Cuffe's junior year, 8 and 5, is better than what Sanchez has done this year. He is perhaps the most over hyped SJ player since Felipe Lopez and Chuck Sprolling. In the second place, it wasn't a statistical comparison, it was a stylistic one. Cuffe, big and soft, bumbling around the perimeter rather than using his physical skills to his advantage, ditto Sanchez. Don't give up on him though, he killed Fordham and we still have the mighty Dartmouth Big Green on tap. 

Other than that you make your usual salient points.

 Thanks.

Remember Scott came in as "Great Scott" and averaged a triple double in JUCO or something. That first yrear I saw glimpses but overall he just looked confused. I see some nice glimpses from Sanchez, he just looks confused to me. Maybe it is his advanced age. -That was for Moose.

I recall him having a superb senior year and nothing about his junior year. His numbers though were pretty similar - 11/4 vs 14/4. IIRC Maven said he had a bit of a substance abuse problem, which explains his 8 game NBA career.

Sanchez looks like he should be better than he is. Maybe it's rust. I don't see him as the missing piece though: I'd trade him for Travion Leonard or Ryan Rhoomes straight up.

I say Reggie Jessie with a little less ball handling ability...not nearly as prolific as Scott could be when he was on (remember that Michigan game?).  Sorry WASJU.

I say Reggie Jessie with a little less ball handling ability...not nearly as prolific as Scott could be when he was on (remember that Michigan game?).  Sorry WASJU.

You feel Jessie was a better ball handler?

Comparisons and lame humor aside, can Sanchez give us the same level of contribution as Brownlee? Not so far IMO, but possible. I liked him, from observing his play at Monroe, but never expected a stud. Let's see if he can be a consistently competent player.

Quote from: Tha Kid on December 17, 2013, 10:15:17 AM

I say Reggie Jessie with a little less ball handling ability...not nearly as prolific as Scott could be when he was on (remember that Michigan game?).  Sorry WASJU.

You feel Jessie was a better ball handler?

As I was writing that I was unsure because I always remember thinking Jessie handled the ball more than he should have and got a little sloppy with it at times...perhaps I just havent seen Sanchez in the same position as Jessie handling the ball, so let's change "better ball handler" to "more frequent ball handler".  That said, I do feel that Jessie's game seems more similar to Sanchez than Scott, IMO.  Sanchez is more of a team guy do everything on offense which is what Jessie was.  Scott was an elite scorer when he put it all together.  Dont believe Sanchez is that - though he's a better scorer than Jessie.  Maybe a cross between the two.

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:18:50 AM

Quote from: Tha Kid on December 17, 2013, 10:15:17 AM

I say Reggie Jessie with a little less ball handling ability...not nearly as prolific as Scott could be when he was on (remember that Michigan game?).  Sorry WASJU.

You feel Jessie was a better ball handler?

As I was writing that I was unsure because I always remember thinking Jessie handled the ball more than he should have and got a little sloppy with it at times...perhaps I just havent seen Sanchez in the same position as Jessie handling the ball, so let's change "better ball handler" to "more frequent ball handler".  That said, I do feel that Jessie's game seems more similar to Sanchez than Scott, IMO.  Sanchez is more of a team guy do everything on offense which is what Jessie was.  Scott was an elite scorer when he put it all together.  Dont believe Sanchez is that - though he's a better scorer than Jessie.  Maybe a cross between the two.

I think Jessie in a halfcourt was a very good handler.  Better than Sanchez.  In transition I'd trust Sanchez more.

Cross between Eduardo Najera and Ricky Rubio.  C'mon guys, he's Hispanic!

Jesse is a pretty good comparison actually.
And how old are you Moose? Jesse was a very good ball handler and passer. And he played very well on the Elite 8 and NCAA tourney team the following year. Terrible shooter, bad attitude and disastrous senior year make people forget that he was a good player on two NCAA teams.

I used Scott becuase like DR Sanchez he came in with great hype, showed flashes of an all around game but struggled.

Don't know about substance abuse but I do know he and Felipe hated each other.

Jesse is a pretty good comparison actually.
And how old are you Moose? Jesse was a very good ball handler and passer. And he played very well on the Elite 8 and NCAA tourney team the following year. Terrible shooter, bad attitude and disastrous senior year make people forget that he was a good player on two NCAA teams.

I used Scott becuase like DR Sanchez he came in with great hype, showed flashes of an all around game but struggled.

Don't know about substance abuse but I do know he and Felipe hated each other.

Ahhhh I wasn't factoring in the hype factor...Sanchez def equates to Scott there in terms of that.  Jessie was a pleasant surprise and really developed.  If the NCAA hadn't F'd with Erick Barkley, we'd remember Jessie much more fondly as that 2 seed team would have gone deeper, I believe.

Jesse is a pretty good comparison actually.
And how old are you Moose? Jesse was a very good ball handler and passer. And he played very well on the Elite 8 and NCAA tourney team the following year. Terrible shooter, bad attitude and disastrous senior year make people forget that he was a good player on two NCAA teams.

I used Scott becuase like DR Sanchez he came in with great hype, showed flashes of an all around game but struggled.

Don't know about substance abuse but I do know he and Felipe hated each other.

Jessie was a better distributor.  His assists numbers for a guy his size were great.  Sanchez is better scorer, shooter and rebounder.  I really don't see that much of a similarity.

He's a clone of Derrick Coleman from Syracuse/Nets...without the aggressiveness.

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:28:54 AM

Jesse is a pretty good comparison actually.
And how old are you Moose? Jesse was a very good ball handler and passer. And he played very well on the Elite 8 and NCAA tourney team the following year. Terrible shooter, bad attitude and disastrous senior year make people forget that he was a good player on two NCAA teams.

I used Scott becuase like DR Sanchez he came in with great hype, showed flashes of an all around game but struggled.

Don't know about substance abuse but I do know he and Felipe hated each other.

Jessie was a better distributor.  His assists numbers for a guy his size were great.  Sanchez is better scorer, shooter and rebounder.  I really don't see that much of a similarity.

Doctor Sanchez 6.2 ppg 5.3 rbs 2.0 asst 50%
Reggie Jessie junior year 8.7 ppg 5.5 rebs 3.6 asst 51%

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:37:07 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:28:54 AM

Jesse is a pretty good comparison actually.
And how old are you Moose? Jesse was a very good ball handler and passer. And he played very well on the Elite 8 and NCAA tourney team the following year. Terrible shooter, bad attitude and disastrous senior year make people forget that he was a good player on two NCAA teams.

I used Scott becuase like DR Sanchez he came in with great hype, showed flashes of an all around game but struggled.

Don't know about substance abuse but I do know he and Felipe hated each other.

Jessie was a better distributor.  His assists numbers for a guy his size were great.  Sanchez is better scorer, shooter and rebounder.  I really don't see that much of a similarity.

Doctor Sanchez 6.2 ppg 5.3 rbs 2.0 asst 50%
Reggie Jessie junior year 8.7 ppg 5.5 rebs 3.6 asst 51%

You picked his best year.  How convenient.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/reggie-jessie-1.html

I'll let the year play out and then we can pick Reggie's best year vs. Sanchez' only year.

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:44:28 AM

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:37:07 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:28:54 AM

Jesse is a pretty good comparison actually.
And how old are you Moose? Jesse was a very good ball handler and passer. And he played very well on the Elite 8 and NCAA tourney team the following year. Terrible shooter, bad attitude and disastrous senior year make people forget that he was a good player on two NCAA teams.

I used Scott becuase like DR Sanchez he came in with great hype, showed flashes of an all around game but struggled.

Don't know about substance abuse but I do know he and Felipe hated each other.

Jessie was a better distributor.  His assists numbers for a guy his size were great.  Sanchez is better scorer, shooter and rebounder.  I really don't see that much of a similarity.

Doctor Sanchez 6.2 ppg 5.3 rbs 2.0 asst 50%
Reggie Jessie junior year 8.7 ppg 5.5 rebs 3.6 asst 51%

You picked his best year.  How convenient.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/reggie-jessie-1.html

I'll let the year play out and then we can pick Reggie's best year vs. Sanchez' only year.

He barely played his frosh season and everyone can attest he had a horrible senior year. Use his soph stats they are almost identical to Sanchez. For the record I like Sanchez game. I liked Jessie game until he senior year as well.

I think the three is a little out of his range since he shoots a line drive. I think he should shoot baseline and elbow jumpers. If Jordan is given the keys I think Sanchez numbers will pickup. 10 and just under 7 are my prediction.

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:48:38 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:44:28 AM

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:37:07 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:28:54 AM

Jesse is a pretty good comparison actually.
And how old are you Moose? Jesse was a very good ball handler and passer. And he played very well on the Elite 8 and NCAA tourney team the following year. Terrible shooter, bad attitude and disastrous senior year make people forget that he was a good player on two NCAA teams.

I used Scott becuase like DR Sanchez he came in with great hype, showed flashes of an all around game but struggled.

Don't know about substance abuse but I do know he and Felipe hated each other.

Jessie was a better distributor.  His assists numbers for a guy his size were great.  Sanchez is better scorer, shooter and rebounder.  I really don't see that much of a similarity.

Doctor Sanchez 6.2 ppg 5.3 rbs 2.0 asst 50%
Reggie Jessie junior year 8.7 ppg 5.5 rebs 3.6 asst 51%

You picked his best year.  How convenient.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/reggie-jessie-1.html

I'll let the year play out and then we can pick Reggie's best year vs. Sanchez' only year.

He barely played his frosh season and everyone can attest he had a horrible senior year. Use his soph stats they are almost identical to Sanchez. For the record I like Sanchez game. I liked Jessie game until he senior year as well.

You sure have a funny way of showing you like someone

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:51:28 AM

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:48:38 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:44:28 AM

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:37:07 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:28:54 AM

Jesse is a pretty good comparison actually.
And how old are you Moose? Jesse was a very good ball handler and passer. And he played very well on the Elite 8 and NCAA tourney team the following year. Terrible shooter, bad attitude and disastrous senior year make people forget that he was a good player on two NCAA teams.

I used Scott becuase like DR Sanchez he came in with great hype, showed flashes of an all around game but struggled.

Don't know about substance abuse but I do know he and Felipe hated each other.

Jessie was a better distributor.  His assists numbers for a guy his size were great.  Sanchez is better scorer, shooter and rebounder.  I really don't see that much of a similarity.

Doctor Sanchez 6.2 ppg 5.3 rbs 2.0 asst 50%
Reggie Jessie junior year 8.7 ppg 5.5 rebs 3.6 asst 51%

You picked his best year.  How convenient.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/reggie-jessie-1.html

I'll let the year play out and then we can pick Reggie's best year vs. Sanchez' only year.

He barely played his frosh season and everyone can attest he had a horrible senior year. Use his soph stats they are almost identical to Sanchez. For the record I like Sanchez game. I liked Jessie game until he senior year as well.

You sure have a funny way of showing you like someone

I compared him to two good players?
I really liked James Scott. And Jessie was a good player for us for 2 good years. Some of you are crazy! Boris Diaw? Guy was a rotation player for NBA playoff teams. I thought I helped you retire your pom poms? You can root for a player or team w/o blinders.

I have disliked four SJU players(their games)
Geno
Mase
Ingram
*Greene playing the point (but that is on Lavin)

Avery "three point" Patterson was not here long enough but if he would have played another season he would have been added.

I have disliked 2 SJU coaches
Norm
Mahoney

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:55:41 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:51:28 AM

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:48:38 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:44:28 AM

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:37:07 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:28:54 AM

Jesse is a pretty good comparison actually.
And how old are you Moose? Jesse was a very good ball handler and passer. And he played very well on the Elite 8 and NCAA tourney team the following year. Terrible shooter, bad attitude and disastrous senior year make people forget that he was a good player on two NCAA teams.

I used Scott becuase like DR Sanchez he came in with great hype, showed flashes of an all around game but struggled.

Don't know about substance abuse but I do know he and Felipe hated each other.

Jessie was a better distributor.  His assists numbers for a guy his size were great.  Sanchez is better scorer, shooter and rebounder.  I really don't see that much of a similarity.

Doctor Sanchez 6.2 ppg 5.3 rbs 2.0 asst 50%
Reggie Jessie junior year 8.7 ppg 5.5 rebs 3.6 asst 51%

You picked his best year.  How convenient.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/reggie-jessie-1.html

I'll let the year play out and then we can pick Reggie's best year vs. Sanchez' only year.

He barely played his frosh season and everyone can attest he had a horrible senior year. Use his soph stats they are almost identical to Sanchez. For the record I like Sanchez game. I liked Jessie game until he senior year as well.

You sure have a funny way of showing you like someone

I compared him to two good players?
I really liked James Scott. And Jessie was a good player for us for 2 good years. Some of you are crazy! Boris Diaw? Guy was a rotation player for NBA playoff teams. I thought I helped you retire your pom poms? You can root for a player or team w/o blinders.

I have disliked four SJU players(their games)
Geno
Mase
Ingram
*Greene playing the point (but that is on Lavin)

Avery "three point" Patterson was not here long enough but if he would have played another season he would have been added.

I have disliked 2 SJU coaches
Norm
Mahoney

I forgot I can only post negative things.  Your right.  What was I thinking.
I'm done with this topic.  We killed it. 

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 11:14:00 AM

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:55:41 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:51:28 AM

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:48:38 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:44:28 AM

Quote from: Moose on December 17, 2013, 10:37:07 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 17, 2013, 10:28:54 AM

Jesse is a pretty good comparison actually.
And how old are you Moose? Jesse was a very good ball handler and passer. And he played very well on the Elite 8 and NCAA tourney team the following year. Terrible shooter, bad attitude and disastrous senior year make people forget that he was a good player on two NCAA teams.

I used Scott becuase like DR Sanchez he came in with great hype, showed flashes of an all around game but struggled.

Don't know about substance abuse but I do know he and Felipe hated each other.

Jessie was a better distributor.  His assists numbers for a guy his size were great.  Sanchez is better scorer, shooter and rebounder.  I really don't see that much of a similarity.

Doctor Sanchez 6.2 ppg 5.3 rbs 2.0 asst 50%
Reggie Jessie junior year 8.7 ppg 5.5 rebs 3.6 asst 51%

You picked his best year.  How convenient.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/reggie-jessie-1.html

I'll let the year play out and then we can pick Reggie's best year vs. Sanchez' only year.

He barely played his frosh season and everyone can attest he had a horrible senior year. Use his soph stats they are almost identical to Sanchez. For the record I like Sanchez game. I liked Jessie game until he senior year as well.

You sure have a funny way of showing you like someone

I compared him to two good players?
I really liked James Scott. And Jessie was a good player for us for 2 good years. Some of you are crazy! Boris Diaw? Guy was a rotation player for NBA playoff teams. I thought I helped you retire your pom poms? You can root for a player or team w/o blinders.

I have disliked four SJU players(their games)
Geno
Mase
Ingram
*Greene playing the point (but that is on Lavin)

Avery "three point" Patterson was not here long enough but if he would have played another season he would have been added.

I have disliked 2 SJU coaches
Norm
Mahoney

I forgot I can only post negative things.  Your right.  What was I thinking.
I'm done with this topic.  We killed it. 

Stop pouting!
Again not sure how comparing him to James Scott or Reggie Jessie Soph and Junior year is negative. It is only a negative if you are comparing him to a solid 11 year NBA veteran player.