New Head Coach?

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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2014, 05:51:43 PM »
couldn't recruit. oh yeah Stevie is a great recruiter.

Who would you rather have to fill out your college roster

DJ Kennedy or Jakar Sampson?
Dwight Hardy or DAngelo Harrison?
Justin Brownlee or Orlando Sanchez?
Paris Horne or Phil Greene?
Justin Burrell or Dominic Pointer?
Malik Boothe or Jamal Branch?

I would go every guy on the left side of the column without even having to think hard about it.  Now how is Lavin such a great recruiter and Norm is so horrible if this is the case.  Please someone explain this to me.

Just because these are Top 100 recruits before they touch a college floor means absolutely squat and it doesn't mean Lavin can recruit because they were Top 100 players.
what did Norm's team do as juniors ?

Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2014, 05:56:56 PM »
couldn't recruit. oh yeah Stevie is a great recruiter.

Who would you rather have to fill out your college roster

DJ Kennedy or Jakar Sampson?
Dwight Hardy or DAngelo Harrison?
Justin Brownlee or Orlando Sanchez?
Paris Horne or Phil Greene?
Justin Burrell or Dominic Pointer?
Malik Boothe or Jamal Branch?

I would go every guy on the left side of the column without even having to think hard about it.  Now how is Lavin such a great recruiter and Norm is so horrible if this is the case.  Please someone explain this to me.

Just because these are Top 100 recruits before they touch a college floor means absolutely squat and it doesn't mean Lavin can recruit because they were Top 100 players.

You don't understand what being a good recruiter means. You are talking about talent evaluation. Lavin is a great recruiter.

When I say recruiter, I mean he can go toe to toe with top schools and get highly sought after recruits to commit to SJU. Obviously, he needs to work on getting players who will fit together better and not only recruit athletic guys who can't shoot.

Also, let's stop pretending you actually liked all of those players you mentioned when they were juniors. You thought they were terrible, as we all did until that 2010 season.

Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2014, 06:32:10 PM »
couldn't recruit. oh yeah Stevie is a great recruiter.

Who would you rather have to fill out your college roster

DJ Kennedy or Jakar Sampson?
Dwight Hardy or DAngelo Harrison?
Justin Brownlee or Orlando Sanchez?
Paris Horne or Phil Greene?
Justin Burrell or Dominic Pointer?
Malik Boothe or Jamal Branch?

I would go every guy on the left side of the column without even having to think hard about it.  Now how is Lavin such a great recruiter and Norm is so horrible if this is the case.  Please someone explain this to me.

Just because these are Top 100 recruits before they touch a college floor means absolutely squat and it doesn't mean Lavin can recruit because they were Top 100 players.
couldn't recruit. oh yeah Stevie is a great recruiter.

Who would you rather have to fill out your college roster

DJ Kennedy or Jakar Sampson?
Dwight Hardy or DAngelo Harrison?
Justin Brownlee or Orlando Sanchez?
Paris Horne or Phil Greene?
Justin Burrell or Dominic Pointer?
Malik Boothe or Jamal Branch?

I would go every guy on the left side of the column without even having to think hard about it.  Now how is Lavin such a great recruiter and Norm is so horrible if this is the case.  Please someone explain this to me.

Just because these are Top 100 recruits before they touch a college floor means absolutely squat and it doesn't mean Lavin can recruit because they were Top 100 players.

Why do you think he didn't get a chance to coach his kids as seniors? Because his results (coaching) were terrible and because he had no one coming in (recruiting)...

Maybe you should be the coach
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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #63 on: January 22, 2014, 06:27:15 PM »
 What do you guys think of Tom Moore, the coach at Quinnipiac?   

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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #64 on: January 22, 2014, 06:36:40 PM »
What do you guys think of Tom Moore, the coach at Quinnipiac?   

Solid coach & recruiter.

Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #65 on: February 18, 2014, 01:35:34 AM »
Ditto.

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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #66 on: February 18, 2014, 10:36:14 AM »
I think its time to ditch the head coach talk. I must admit I had my doubts earlier in the season. But, even though the season isn't over I say he redeemed himself.

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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #67 on: February 18, 2014, 10:54:11 AM »
I think its time to ditch the head coach talk. I must admit I had my doubts earlier in the season. But, even though the season isn't over I say he redeemed himself.

The talk has been ditched.  But Carmine decided to dig up old dredge.
Remember who broke the Slice news

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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #68 on: February 18, 2014, 11:11:43 AM »
Contract extension!

Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #69 on: April 03, 2014, 04:15:25 PM »
ugh i hate to do this but no way steve lavin survives this.
possible candidates:
jim calhoun - will coach til he literally dies
ben howland  - knows to recruit nyc, has been to the ncaa's
archie miller
Steve Masiello - damaged goods.

 

Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #70 on: April 03, 2014, 04:19:42 PM »
ugh i hate to do this but no way steve lavin survives this.
possible candidates:
jim calhoun - will coach til he literally dies
ben howland  - knows to recruit nyc, has been to the ncaa's
archie miller
Steve Masiello - damaged goods.
There is a way - pull off the Chieck/Briscoe Perfecta. 

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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #71 on: April 03, 2014, 04:23:07 PM »
ugh i hate to do this but no way steve lavin survives this.
possible candidates:
jim calhoun - will coach til he literally dies
ben howland  - knows to recruit nyc, has been to the ncaa's
archie miller
Steve Masiello - damaged goods.
There is a way - pull off the Chieck/Briscoe Perfecta. 

Forget Chieck and Briscoe.  We'll be lucky to snag ADR right now.

Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2014, 04:32:12 PM »
ugh i hate to do this but no way steve lavin survives this.
possible candidates:
jim calhoun - will coach til he literally dies
ben howland  - knows to recruit nyc, has been to the ncaa's
archie miller
Steve Masiello - damaged goods.
There is a way - pull off the Chieck/Briscoe Perfecta. 

Forget Chieck and Briscoe.  We'll be lucky to snag ADR right now.
I didn't put down the odds of it happening right now -  :coolsmiley:

Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #73 on: April 03, 2014, 04:34:03 PM »
ugh i hate to do this but no way steve lavin survives this.
possible candidates:
jim calhoun - will coach til he literally dies
ben howland  - knows to recruit nyc, has been to the ncaa's
archie miller
Steve Masiello - damaged goods.
There is a way - pull off the Chieck/Briscoe Perfecta. 

Forget Chieck and Briscoe.  We'll be lucky to snag ADR right now.
I didn't put down the odds of it happening right now - :coolsmiley: Risky Biz

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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #74 on: April 03, 2014, 04:56:00 PM »
ugh i hate to do this but no way steve lavin survives this.
possible candidates:
jim calhoun - will coach til he literally dies
ben howland  - knows to recruit nyc, has been to the ncaa's
archie miller
Steve Masiello - damaged goods.
There is a way - pull off the Chieck/Briscoe Perfecta. 

Forget Chieck and Briscoe.  We'll be lucky to snag ADR right now.
I didn't put down the odds of it happening right now - :coolsmiley: Risky Biz

You can't write a number small enough to reflect those odds.
   
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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #75 on: April 03, 2014, 05:02:09 PM »
the school really needs to get on this quickly.  They need to get someone in fast enough to re-recruit rysheed and keep harrison, so that next year isn't any bigger of a shitshow. AND also have enough time to recruit a big 2015 class.  Out of that list miller is the only one that interests me.  some talk that baby pitino might be a possibility (wish I had 10mil/year kicking around so we could go after the real deal).  who else is possible?
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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2014, 08:21:11 PM »
The way things are going, next year we can break our all time attendance records-500 lost souls?

Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2014, 10:47:14 PM »
Miller just resigned a contract at Dayton with a buyout that would be very difficult for SJU to match.

I think Hurley is a more logical choice.

Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2014, 11:07:32 PM »
Listen, I'm not going to root against the guy because at the end of the day he is my alma mater's coach. Just like I rooted for Jarvis and Roberts, I'll root for Lavin just the same. IMO, the big problem right now is timing. Let's be honest for a second. With experienced players like Sampson and Obekpa leaving the program, it is going to be nearly impossible for this team to compete at a high level next season. Sure, maybe they pick up a transfer or JUCO along the way. But those guys are not going to come in and match Sampson's offense or Obekpa's defense. So pretty much, we are writing off next year as a total wash. Then, we come to the infamous 2015 recruiting class. There are some posters out there that claim we already have star players locked up (which I still find highly unlikely, but let's pretend for the moment that this is true). Ok, so essentially you are going to have to recruit an entire team, probably along the lines of 5 or 6 players. Essentially, the 2015-'16 season will be a team consisting of Jordan (which I doubt he'll be there that far down the line), whatever scraps we pick up this year, and an entire group of freshmen. Now, as we've clearly seen in the past that Lavin is not exactly a "development coach." Which basically means that the season will also be a wash because he won't be able to get these kids up to speed fast enough. So now we are looking forward to the 2016-'17 season and hope that the team finally comes together as one. The only concern is if our current group of kids all turned on a coach, how can one eliminate the possibility of that legendary '15 class doing the same thing.

And I can't ignore the problem standing in the way of all this is pretty much the '15 class is dependent on him getting a contract extension, which the university would be absolutely insane to do at this point in time due to unfolding events. When I add all of these things together, I've got to be honest with you. It's time to move on. Even an optimist would say we are 2-3 years away now. And after 3 years of missing the NCAA Tournament, is it really fair to be paying someone in excess of two million dollars a season for mediocrity? If that's all the school is looking for, they should save their money and go hire a mid major coach who will make a run every 4-5 years or so but will also command a salary of about half of Lavin's.

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Re: New Head Coach?
« Reply #79 on: April 04, 2014, 12:11:03 AM »
Would Slice come home if Howland was hired?