I am giving Lavin at least one more season.

Quote from: Save The Hero on January 22, 2014, 06:03:33 PM

 1. Unless you think that we are keeping Obekpa and Sampson until they are seniors and Rysheed until he is a junior, we will likely have 9 scholarships open for 2015 with Adonis Delarosa who is our only reported target right now. With somehow those guys staying we have 6 scholarships with Adonis. Still a whole lot. Not good scholarship management with a whole new roster.

This has me beyond worried for our future. Ugh.

Quote from: 0404 on January 22, 2014, 10:13:06 PM

Quote from: Save The Hero on January 22, 2014, 06:03:33 PM

 1. Unless you think that we are keeping Obekpa and Sampson until they are seniors and Rysheed until he is a junior, we will likely have 9 scholarships open for 2015 with Adonis Delarosa who is our only reported target right now. With somehow those guys staying we have 6 scholarships with Adonis. Still a whole lot. Not good scholarship management with a whole new roster.

This has me beyond worried for our future. Ugh.

Yup. This is our roster for 2015:

PG : Rysheed Jordan - Junior
SG : Felix Balamou - Senior
SF : Max Hooper - Redshirt Junior
PF : Jakarr Sampson - Senior / Christian Jones - Redshirt Junior
C : Chris Obekpa - Senior

Its say its at least likely that all three of Jakarr, Obekpa and Rysheed aren't here by then. So we'd have Balamou, Hooper, Jones and a bunch more excuses.

And that's the year we go to Maui and get embarrassed on national TV three days in a row

St. John's is a very attractive job though, but we need to move fast (after the season if we don't make a miraculous run and make the tournament). Its easily a top 50 job in the state that its in, and if brought to prominence a top 20 job easily.

Quote from: Save The Hero on January 23, 2014, 12:08:24 AM

St. John's is a very attractive job though, but we need to move fast (after the season if we don't make a miraculous run and make the tournament). Its easily a top 50 job in the state that its in, and if brought to prominence a top 20 job easily.

No it's not. It's the Bermuda triangle. Jamaica is where careers go to die. The next coach won't need a DOBO, he'll need an exorcist. This is barely a top 50 job in the new Big East. You know who thought SJ was a top 50 job? The numbskull Steve Lavin. Everyone else it was offered to realized it was crap and turned it down.

It's not 1982 anymore. SJ has been an afterthought in college BB for 25 years. We're not a sleeping giant: we're a mid major in a coma. Part of the reason for the suck is the delusion that we're a potential powerhouse. We're not. We should stop swinging for the fences. When Lavin leaves in 2015 we should all pray the next coach is a nice solid single to left. Because one more home run like Lavin will kill us dead.

Lavin is not leaving or getting fired. This talk is ridiculous, as is the parade of horrible imaginaries some posters are spewing--What if some palyers transfer, and what if some go pro, and what if Lavin does not recruit anyone , oh Lord we will be embarassed in Hawaii! Reality check is in order.

Lavin is not leaving or getting fired. This talk is ridiculous, as is the parade of horrible imaginaries some posters are spewing--What if some palyers transfer, and what if some go pro, and what if Lavin does not recruit anyone , oh Lord we will be embarassed in Hawaii! Reality check is in order.

Quote from: loughlinguy on January 23, 2014, 02:11:24 PM

Lavin is not leaving or getting fired. This talk is ridiculous, as is the parade of horrible imaginaries some posters are spewing--What if some palyers transfer, and what if some go pro, and what if Lavin does not recruit anyone , oh Lord we will be embarassed in Hawaii! Reality check is in order.

Funny you should talk about reality checks. Heres some realities:

Reality: This team is 0-5 in the big east
Reality: This team is 1-9 against power conference teams
Reality: This team is severely underachieving
Reality: There hasnt really been any signs that would indicate it would get much better
Reality: Lavin is clueless when it comes to X's and O's, preparation, rotations, and player development
Reality: We are looking at a shallow front court next year as no bigs have been signed to help with depth

I could probably list a few more but you get the point. I hope they do turn it around but I haven't seen anything to indicate they will. We are only a small favorite at home in a game we thought would be an automatic win before the season

Agreed that the front court next year will be weak.   Lavin should take a page from J. Thompson the Elder's book and recruit an exmilitary 6-8 Big big man to police the inside.  Obekpa is certainly not the rebounding answer so far. his interior positioning is awful.
 

Quote from: loughlinguy on January 23, 2014, 02:11:24 PM

Lavin is not leaving or getting fired. This talk is ridiculous, as is the parade of horrible imaginaries some posters are spewing--What if some palyers transfer, and what if some go pro, and what if Lavin does not recruit anyone , oh Lord we will be embarassed in Hawaii! Reality check is in order.

Whos imagining? This is facts: 2011 we had 10 open scholarships. 2015 we will have 7. Who are we recruiting for 2014? Adonis Delarosa is the only name I can think of. So lets just say we get him for arguments sake this is the roster we have going into 2015:

PG : Rysheed Jordan - Junior
SG : Felix Balamou - Senior
SF : Max Hooper - Redshirt Junior
PF : Jakarr Sampson - Senior / Christian Jones - Redshirt Junior
C : Chris Obekpa - Senior / Adonis Delarosa - Sophomore

Im willing to bet anything that at least one of the three(probably 2) of Sampson, Obekpa and Jordan won't be here. Im guessing Obekpa and Rysheed will be gone by then (via draft, pros)

PG :
SG : Felix Balamou - Senior
SF : Max Hooper - Redshirt Junior
PF : Jakarr Sampson - Senior / Christian Jones - Redshirt Junior
C : Adonis Delarosa - Sophomore

Even if we get some really good recruits, are we not in trouble with such a roster?

we are 0-5 in the BE at the moment and people are worried about 2 years from now...1

How many teams would look a lot better looking 2 years into the future? Especially if you look at a worst case scenario like you are. You are always going to have players graduate/look to go pro. Every BE team does. Also, Lavin's not afraid to sign up some JUCO's.

we are 0-5 in the BE at the moment and people are worried about 2 years from now...1

Also, Lavin's not afraid to sign up some JUCO's.

Makes no sense to me that he would leave