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Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)

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Gray Chudney

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #120 on: December 03, 2014, 11:44:28 AM »
Artis should publicly apologize for past transgressions and talk about the measures he has taken to become a better person.  If he's genuine, public perception will be different.  Apologize, say you'll be a valued member of the St John's community, and thank the university for giving you a second chance. I know I'd feel better about his recruitment that way. 
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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #121 on: December 03, 2014, 12:02:39 PM »
Quote from: Gray Chudney on December 03, 2014, 11:44:28 AM
Artis should publicly apologize for past transgressions and talk about the measures he has taken to become a better person. If he's genuine, public perception will be different. Apologize, say you'll be a valued member of the St John's community, and thank the university for giving you a second chance. I know I'd feel better about his recruitment that way.
In general I agree, but the issue is that artis's "past transgression" puts current students [potentially] at risk.  This isn't the same as if he shoplifted before and if he shoplifts again then just cut him, no harm no foul. 

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Gray Chudney

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #122 on: December 03, 2014, 12:14:53 PM »
Quote from: apesNapes on December 03, 2014, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: Gray Chudney on December 03, 2014, 11:44:28 AM
Artis should publicly apologize for past transgressions and talk about the measures he has taken to become a better person. If he's genuine, public perception will be different. Apologize, say you'll be a valued member of the St John's community, and thank the university for giving you a second chance. I know I'd feel better about his recruitment that way.
In general I agree, but the issue is that artis's "past transgression" puts current students [potentially] at risk. This isn't the same as if he shoplifted before and if he shoplifts again then just cut him, no harm no foul.

Completely reasonable point. Tough situation. all things considered, I'd continue to explore ways to make it work. 
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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #123 on: December 03, 2014, 01:31:27 PM »
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TONYD3

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #124 on: December 03, 2014, 01:45:07 PM »
What did he do? Never was aressted . never charged , why shouldn't he play? Heisman trophy qb is playing for his second chpinship .
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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #125 on: December 03, 2014, 01:57:17 PM »
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 03, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
What did he do? Never was aressted . never charged , why shouldn't he play? Heisman trophy qb is playing for his second chpinship .
http://media.oregonlive.com/ducks_impact/other/14-04131.pdf


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Ron Artesticles

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #126 on: December 03, 2014, 02:05:26 PM »
I'd have no problem with bringing him in.

Would help balance classes as well.

Sign him up!
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newyorker2586

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #127 on: December 03, 2014, 02:38:24 PM »
I guess Lavins last hope is to bring in Mr.Marcus at the point.
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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #128 on: December 04, 2014, 08:12:13 AM »
Quote from: apesNapes on December 03, 2014, 01:57:17 PM
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 03, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
What did he do? Never was aressted . never charged , why shouldn't he play? Heisman trophy qb is playing for his second chpinship .
http://media.oregonlive.com/ducks_impact/other/14-04131.pdf

How could anyone want this kid on campus after reading that report.?
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TONYD3

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #129 on: December 04, 2014, 08:31:57 AM »
That report is really bad. If true he should be in jail. But what if its not true?
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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #130 on: December 04, 2014, 08:39:04 AM »
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 04, 2014, 08:31:57 AM
That report is really bad. If true he should be in jail. But what if its not true?
It seems logical to assume our new Pres. will take the "err on the side of caution" approach. 
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Poison

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #131 on: December 04, 2014, 08:54:35 AM »
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 08:12:13 AM
Quote from: apesNapes on December 03, 2014, 01:57:17 PM
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 03, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
What did he do? Never was aressted . never charged , why shouldn't he play? Heisman trophy qb is playing for his second chpinship .
http://media.oregonlive.com/ducks_impact/other/14-04131.pdf
How could anyone want this kid on campus after reading that report.?
St.John's has had much worse—and people they've celebrated, too. Does this kid have a history of situations like this? If he doesn't, I'd give him a sec one chance.
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Poison

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #132 on: December 04, 2014, 09:02:11 AM »
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 04, 2014, 08:31:57 AM
That report is really bad. If true he should be in jail. But what if its not true?
St.John's isn't the judicial system. It is the height of hypocrisy when they attempt to be. 
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newyorker2586

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #133 on: December 04, 2014, 09:02:16 AM »
The DA would have had a hard time to get a conviction with a jury after what I read especially with her getting together with Joe Young the following day.
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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #134 on: December 04, 2014, 11:17:56 AM »
Quote from: Poison on December 04, 2014, 08:54:35 AM
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 08:12:13 AM
Quote from: apesNapes on December 03, 2014, 01:57:17 PM
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 03, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
What did he do? Never was aressted . never charged , why shouldn't he play? Heisman trophy qb is playing for his second chpinship .
http://media.oregonlive.com/ducks_impact/other/14-04131.pdf
How could anyone want this kid on campus after reading that report.?
St.John's has had much worse—and people they've celebrated, too. Does this kid have a history of situations like this? If he doesn't, I'd give him a sec one chance.

Please do tell what St. John's basketball player has done "much worse" and been celebrated...?
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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #135 on: December 04, 2014, 01:57:34 PM »
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 11:17:56 AM
Quote from: Poison on December 04, 2014, 08:54:35 AM
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 08:12:13 AM
Quote from: apesNapes on December 03, 2014, 01:57:17 PM
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 03, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
What did he do? Never was aressted . never charged , why shouldn't he play? Heisman trophy qb is playing for his second chpinship .
http://media.oregonlive.com/ducks_impact/other/14-04131.pdf
How could anyone want this kid on campus after reading that report.?
St.John's has had much worse—and people they've celebrated, too. Does this kid have a history of situations like this? If he doesn't, I'd give him a sec one chance.
Please do tell what St. John's basketball player has done "much worse" and been celebrated...?

Don't ask him, ask Gus Christofi.
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pmg911

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #136 on: December 04, 2014, 03:28:00 PM »
Quote from: Foad on December 04, 2014, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 11:17:56 AM
Quote from: Poison on December 04, 2014, 08:54:35 AM
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 08:12:13 AM
Quote from: apesNapes on December 03, 2014, 01:57:17 PM
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 03, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
What did he do? Never was aressted . never charged , why shouldn't he play? Heisman trophy qb is playing for his second chpinship .
http://media.oregonlive.com/ducks_impact/other/14-04131.pdf
How could anyone want this kid on campus after reading that report.?
St.John's has had much worse—and people they've celebrated, too. Does this kid have a history of situations like this? If he doesn't, I'd give him a sec one chance.
Please do tell what St. John's basketball player has done "much worse" and been celebrated...?
Don't ask him, ask Gus Christofi.

Yeah Jayson Williams did sooooo much wrong while he was at St. John's.
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Foad

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #137 on: December 04, 2014, 03:40:50 PM »
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: Foad on December 04, 2014, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 11:17:56 AM
Quote from: Poison on December 04, 2014, 08:54:35 AM
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 08:12:13 AM
Quote from: apesNapes on December 03, 2014, 01:57:17 PM
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 03, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
What did he do? Never was aressted . never charged , why shouldn't he play? Heisman trophy qb is playing for his second chpinship .
http://media.oregonlive.com/ducks_impact/other/14-04131.pdf
How could anyone want this kid on campus after reading that report.?
St.John's has had much worse—and people they've celebrated, too. Does this kid have a history of situations like this? If he doesn't, I'd give him a sec one chance.
Please do tell what St. John's basketball player has done "much worse" and been celebrated...?
Don't ask him, ask Gus Christofi.
Yeah Jayson Williams did sooooo much wrong while he was at St. John's.
Good point, he only assaulted a fan with a chair while at Saint John's. He didn't murder anyone until he graduated. In any event, that wasn't the question. Good try though.

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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #138 on: December 04, 2014, 03:44:42 PM »
Let's use our best judgement and think before hitting 'post' here. 
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Re: Dominic Artis - PG - Oregon (transfer)
« Reply #139 on: December 04, 2014, 04:03:09 PM »
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 11:17:56 AM
Quote from: Poison on December 04, 2014, 08:54:35 AM
Quote from: pmg911 on December 04, 2014, 08:12:13 AM
Quote from: apesNapes on December 03, 2014, 01:57:17 PM
Quote from: TONYD3 on December 03, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
What did he do? Never was aressted . never charged , why shouldn't he play? Heisman trophy qb is playing for his second chpinship .
http://media.oregonlive.com/ducks_impact/other/14-04131.pdf
How could anyone want this kid on campus after reading that report.?
St.John's has had much worse—and people they've celebrated, too. Does this kid have a history of situations like this? If he doesn't, I'd give him a sec one chance.
Please do tell what St. John's basketball player has done "much worse" and been celebrated...?
I didn't say anything about a basketball player. 
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