Keith Thomas Impact

Quote from: Poison on October 29, 2014, 09:11:13 PM

Quote from: Basketball Jones on October 29, 2014, 08:11:20 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on October 29, 2014, 07:07:34 PM

Quote from: Basketball Jones on October 29, 2014, 06:45:29 PM

The Red Storm?? Since the Lavin era began how about the Red Clowns?? What a joke of a program.

 Contingent on your application for the mascot position

Great comeback. The truth must really hurt eh Buddy?  That's what most of the country thinks about the Lavin circus that is now your  program. It has evolved into what it is and unfortunately it is what it is. With all of the hoopla and coverage SJU receives your program is the epitome of underachievement and has been so for years. I wish that such was not the case. It lacks integrity. It's a black mark on your school. Learn to live with it Pal.

What team do you root for?

He's an Iona fan. Don't feed

Quote from: Gray Chudney on October 29, 2014, 09:34:30 PM

Quote from: Poison on October 29, 2014, 09:11:13 PM

Quote from: Basketball Jones on October 29, 2014, 08:11:20 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on October 29, 2014, 07:07:34 PM

Quote from: Basketball Jones on October 29, 2014, 06:45:29 PM

The Red Storm?? Since the Lavin era began how about the Red Clowns?? What a joke of a program.

 Contingent on your application for the mascot position

Great comeback. The truth must really hurt eh Buddy?  That's what most of the country thinks about the Lavin circus that is now your  program. It has evolved into what it is and unfortunately it is what it is. With all of the hoopla and coverage SJU receives your program is the epitome of underachievement and has been so for years. I wish that such was not the case. It lacks integrity. It's a black mark on your school. Learn to live with it Pal.

What team do you root for?

He's an Iona fan. Don't feed

What difference does that make? I'm a NYC local basketball fan. Remember when St. John's was a legit national power. It had a roster of NYC talent and it captured the city. Not a collection of national recruits who seem to care more about their pro futures than working cohesively as a team. You need to get back to your past formula of success. I don't see where that's being disrespectful to your team. Lavin is a pox. Get someone who can recruit the best local talent. Get someone who can develop their talent and show them how to win as a team.  It's really about winning vs recruiting. If you want to call me a troll that's your right as it's your board. But the results of each season speak for themselves and are reflected in your RPI which is an objective - not subjective - indicator.
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Quote from: Basketball Jones on October 29, 2014, 10:02:03 PM

Quote from: Gray Chudney on October 29, 2014, 09:34:30 PM

Quote from: Poison on October 29, 2014, 09:11:13 PM

Quote from: Basketball Jones on October 29, 2014, 08:11:20 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on October 29, 2014, 07:07:34 PM

Quote from: Basketball Jones on October 29, 2014, 06:45:29 PM

The Red Storm?? Since the Lavin era began how about the Red Clowns?? What a joke of a program.

 Contingent on your application for the mascot position

Great comeback. The truth must really hurt eh Buddy?  That's what most of the country thinks about the Lavin circus that is now your  program. It has evolved into what it is and unfortunately it is what it is. With all of the hoopla and coverage SJU receives your program is the epitome of underachievement and has been so for years. I wish that such was not the case. It lacks integrity. It's a black mark on your school. Learn to live with it Pal.

What team do you root for?

He's an Iona fan. Don't feed

What difference does that make? I'm a NYC local basketball fan. Remember when St. John's was a legit national power. It had a roster of NYC talent and it captured the city. Not a collection of national recruits who seem to care more about their pro futures than working cohesively as a team. You need to get back to your past formula of success. I don't see where that's being disrespectful to your team. Lavin is a pox. Get someone who can recruit the best local talent. Get someone who can develop their talent and show them how to win as a team.  It's really about winning vs recruiting. If you want to call me a troll that's your right as it's your board. But the results of each season speak for themselves and are reflected in your RPI which is an objective - not subjective - indicator.

Troll

If a member of the coaching staff altered his transcript what are the chances that his stats were not inflated.

I'd say zero.

Quote from: DFF6 on October 29, 2014, 07:23:15 PM

Quote from: boo3 on October 29, 2014, 07:17:32 PM

  I'm a Briscoe to UK away from not giving 2 craps about this program anymore.

Looks like you're about to save two craps.

Briscoe is absolutely hearing all of this, and given our chances of landing him were always contingent on what the team would look like when he came here, losing Thomas can't help our chances.

If I texted Briscoe right now and asked him who Keith Thomas was he'd have no clue.

Quote from: Dave on October 29, 2014, 08:38:47 PM

Quote from: DFF6 on October 29, 2014, 07:23:15 PM

Quote from: boo3 on October 29, 2014, 07:17:32 PM

  I'm a Briscoe to UK away from not giving 2 craps about this program anymore.

Looks like you're about to save two craps.

Briscoe is absolutely hearing all of this, and given our chances of landing him were always contingent on what the team would look like when he came here, losing Thomas can't help our chances.

If I texted Briscoe right now and asked him who Keith Thomas was he'd have no clue.

Problem is, Dave, that there will likely be people; namely folks trying to persuade Briscoe from coming hear, that will use Thomas' debacle to disuade Briscoe from coming here.  Of course I'm speculating (like all of us here do), but we don't have the deep bench of Uconn or Ky. Losing a potential starter in 2015 just adds more uncertainty to what kind of team SJU will be able to put on the floor next year, and Briscoe has said that is an important consideration for him.

Quote from: Dave on October 29, 2014, 08:38:47 PM

Quote from: DFF6 on October 29, 2014, 07:23:15 PM

Quote from: boo3 on October 29, 2014, 07:17:32 PM

  I'm a Briscoe to UK away from not giving 2 craps about this program anymore.

Looks like you're about to save two craps.

Briscoe is absolutely hearing all of this, and given our chances of landing him were always contingent on what the team would look like when he came here, losing Thomas can't help our chances.

If I texted Briscoe right now and asked him who Keith Thomas was he'd have no clue.

Problem is, Dave, that there will likely be people; namely folks trying to persuade Briscoe from coming hear, that will use Thomas' debacle to disuade Briscoe from coming here.  Of course I'm speculating (like all of us here do), but we don't have the deep bench of Uconn or Ky. Losing a potential starter in 2015 just adds more uncertainty to what kind of team SJU will be able to put on the floor next year, and Briscoe has said that is an important consideration for him.

The Red Storm?? Since the Lavin era began how about the Red Clowns?? What a joke of a program.

Quote from: DFF6 on October 29, 2014, 11:39:45 PM

Quote from: Dave on October 29, 2014, 08:38:47 PM

Quote from: DFF6 on October 29, 2014, 07:23:15 PM

Quote from: boo3 on October 29, 2014, 07:17:32 PM

  I'm a Briscoe to UK away from not giving 2 craps about this program anymore.

Looks like you're about to save two craps.

Briscoe is absolutely hearing all of this, and given our chances of landing him were always contingent on what the team would look like when he came here, losing Thomas can't help our chances.

If I texted Briscoe right now and asked him who Keith Thomas was he'd have no clue.

Problem is, Dave, that there will likely be people; namely folks trying to persuade Briscoe from coming hear, that will use Thomas' debacle to disuade Briscoe from coming here.  Of course I'm speculating (like all of us here do), but we don't have the deep bench of Uconn or Ky. Losing a potential starter in 2015 just adds more uncertainty to what kind of team SJU will be able to put on the floor next year, and Briscoe has said that is an important consideration for him.

Your speculation has a lot of fantasy. Reality is that it doesn't matter. It's fine.

I think Keith Thomas is being blown out of proportion.  He didn't play 1 official minute and you guys make a superstar out of the kid.
On the bright side----Don't stress over Briscoe.  He will be at SJU in the fall.   Patience. 

If you want to win you have to take risks.


I don't think Providence fans mind Ed Cooley swinging and missing on a few recruits in exchange for Big East championship.

If you want to win you have to take risks.


I don't think Providence fans mind Ed Cooley swinging and missing on a few recruits in exchange for Big East championship.

Quote from: Dave on October 29, 2014, 08:36:52 PM

If you want to win you have to take risks.


I don't think Providence fans mind Ed Cooley swinging and missing on a few recruits in exchange for Big East championship.

Quote from: Dave on October 29, 2014, 08:36:52 PM

If you want to win you have to take risks.


I don't think Providence fans mind Ed Cooley swinging and missing on a few recruits in exchange for Big East championship.

This is true, but the issue really is that Lavin sat on his you-know-what for the most part with 2014 class then scrambled in Spring to fill what was some really important minutes and positions.  If he had done his legwork with the 2014 class earlier on, he may have been able to secure a player that was much more of a sure-thing to play and not put the program in the position of having a dicey qualifier that was expected to play major minutes.

Quote from: TRabinowitz on October 30, 2014, 12:45:25 PM

Quote from: Dave on October 29, 2014, 08:36:52 PM

If you want to win you have to take risks.


I don't think Providence fans mind Ed Cooley swinging and missing on a few recruits in exchange for Big East championship.

Quote from: Dave on October 29, 2014, 08:36:52 PM

If you want to win you have to take risks.


I don't think Providence fans mind Ed Cooley swinging and missing on a few recruits in exchange for Big East championship.

This is true, but the issue really is that Lavin sat on his you-know-what for the most part with 2014 class then scrambled in Spring to fill what was some really important minutes and positions.  If he had done his legwork with the 2014 class earlier on, he may have been able to secure a player that was much more of a sure-thing to play and not put the program in the position of having a dicey qualifier that was expected to play major minutes.

Saint John's fans wouldn't mind exchanging a few swings and misses for a BE championship either. What they mind is lots of swings and misses in exchange for NIT first round blow out losses.

Quote from: TRabinowitz on October 30, 2014, 12:45:25 PM

Quote from: Dave on October 29, 2014, 08:36:52 PM

If you want to win you have to take risks.


I don't think Providence fans mind Ed Cooley swinging and missing on a few recruits in exchange for Big East championship.

Quote from: Dave on October 29, 2014, 08:36:52 PM

If you want to win you have to take risks.


I don't think Providence fans mind Ed Cooley swinging and missing on a few recruits in exchange for Big East championship.

This is true, but the issue really is that Lavin sat on his you-know-what for the most part with 2014 class then scrambled in Spring to fill what was some really important minutes and positions.  If he had done his legwork with the 2014 class earlier on, he may have been able to secure a player that was much more of a sure-thing to play and not put the program in the position of having a dicey qualifier that was expected to play major minutes.

Saint John's fans wouldn't mind exchanging a few swings and misses for a BE championship either. What they mind is lots of swings and misses in exchange for NIT first round blow out losses.

@NYPost_Brazille: College coach who was recruiting Keith Thomas in spring said transcript was a mess when he saw it, and never offered as result. #sjubb

Quote from: Gray Chudney on October 29, 2014, 09:34:30 PM

Quote from: Poison on October 29, 2014, 09:11:13 PM

Quote from: Basketball Jones on October 29, 2014, 08:11:20 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on October 29, 2014, 07:07:34 PM

Quote from: Basketball Jones on October 29, 2014, 06:45:29 PM

The Red Storm?? Since the Lavin era began how about the Red Clowns?? What a joke of a program.

 Contingent on your application for the mascot position

Great comeback. The truth must really hurt eh Buddy?  That's what most of the country thinks about the Lavin circus that is now your  program. It has evolved into what it is and unfortunately it is what it is. With all of the hoopla and coverage SJU receives your program is the epitome of underachievement and has been so for years. I wish that such was not the case. It lacks integrity. It's a black mark on your school. Learn to live with it Pal.

What team do you root for?

He's an Iona fan. Don't feed

What difference does that make? I'm a NYC local basketball fan. Remember when St. John's was a legit national power. It had a roster of NYC talent and it captured the city. Not a collection of national recruits who seem to care more about their pro futures than working cohesively as a team. You need to get back to your past formula of success. I don't see where that's being disrespectful to your team. Lavin is a pox. Get someone who can recruit the best local talent. Get someone who can develop their talent and show them how to win as a team.  It's really about winning vs recruiting. If you want to call me a troll that's your right as it's your board. But the results of each season speak for themselves and are reflected in your RPI which is an objective - not subjective - indicator.

Not that he is a replacement for Thomas at present but could the "Late" recruiting of Amar been a result of the potentiality of irregularities with respect to Keith's records.  While Amar will not get all of Keith's projected minutes but maybe he goes from 4mpg to 15mpg and ADR goes from 5 to 14 and Joey goes from 2 to 6.  Must do a novena for CO to remain healthy, strong and foul free as he will get as many minutes as he can handle