Villanova game thread

jordan  should stayed in philly. no point of playing if you are not going to contribute anything .

good luck to rysheed in qatar

#whynot?

jordan  should stayed in philly. no point of playing if you are not going to contribute anything .

#whynot?

i feel bad for D'Lo,  has turned into a solid player too bad he has no help

this is a #$%^ing joke.

yet Lav feels "no pressure to win"

Why would he feel any pressure? Fans are the biggest enablers

I hate Villanova they own us

i feel bad for D'Lo,  has turned into a solid player too bad he has no help

He turned into a solid player the minute he put a St. John's Jersey on. Hes turned into a tremendous player this season.

Quote from: Johnny4Life on January 06, 2015, 11:00:08 PM

Shouldn't we have some size like Delarosa in there while O'Bekpa is out? I would rather be resting O'Bekpa and one of our guards right now.

I agree. They can score at will with Obekpa out.

DEfense overplays which is smart with our speed.... with CO back there it works....with no shotblocker it can get porous

It's just one game. They played very well for 30 minutes. Jordan, hopefully is just an emotional mess, and he'll calm down. Jones can't be out there. He isn't able to play at this level. He's a D2 player. There is a 6'7 walk on that looked good in practice. Give him Jones' minutes. All of them.

I thought we committed some stupid ticky tack fouls in the first half and it bit us in the second half. Obekpa really has improved, but he faced a pro big man today, and he got beat bad. He's coming back next year. He's not a pro yet.

Dangelo was phenomenal. His midrange game is a work of art.   Truly an elite skill, and it's fun to watch.  He is the definition of a crafty offensive player.

Jordan sucked.  Not much else to say. 

Lavin also sucked.  And not for anything in particular he did in this game, although I would have played Delarosa or Jones more when we were getting killed on the boards, despite the fact that they have very limited skill.
But SL cost us a chance in this game because we don't have a serviceable player above 6"5 besides Obekpa.   
You cannot play a full season with only one Center or powerforward.  And that's what we've been trying to do. Dom has given his all, but he's a wing, not a front court player.

It's just one game. They played very well for 30 minutes. Jordan, hopefully is just an emotional mess, and he'll calm down. Jones can't be out there. He isn't able to play at this level. He's a D2 player. There is a 6'7 walk on that looked good in practice. Give him Jones' minutes. All of them.

I thought we committed some stupid ticky tack fouls in the first half and it bit us in the second half. Obekpa really has improved, but he faced a pro big man today, and he got beat bad. He's coming back next year. He's not a pro yet.

You are right on point....30 good minutes.....problem is what was gonna kill us would happen late.  CO simply can not handle big bigs, cant handle wide Charles Barkley-like asses...he gets pinned and is in trouble, which means he fouls....which means he is not there to anchor the D re overplay coverage....no bench leads to a tired last 10.....re next year, looks like CO and Jordan will be back given their play (Jordan of course could leave for a variety of reasons not connected to his play)    If Jordan practices for the next week things may improve.  Meanwhile, what about Jones...way to go up strong.....need to see more Joey D,  like to see him in there using 3 or 4 fouls as needed and taking up space.  Right now I make it even money we go 9-9 if there is no more drama.

Quote from: Poison on January 06, 2015, 11:56:43 PM

It's just one game. They played very well for 30 minutes. Jordan, hopefully is just an emotional mess, and he'll calm down. Jones can't be out there. He isn't able to play at this level. He's a D2 player. There is a 6'7 walk on that looked good in practice. Give him Jones' minutes. All of them.

I thought we committed some stupid ticky tack fouls in the first half and it bit us in the second half. Obekpa really has improved, but he faced a pro big man today, and he got beat bad. He's coming back next year. He's not a pro yet.

You are right on point....30 good minutes.....problem is what was gonna kill us would happen late.  CO simply can not handle big bigs, cant handle wide Charles Barkley-like asses...he gets pinned and is in trouble, which means he fouls....which means he is not there to anchor the D re overplay coverage....no bench leads to a tired last 10.....re next year, looks like CO and Jordan will be back given their play (Jordan of course could leave for a variety of reasons not connected to his play)    If Jordan practices for the next week things may improve.  Meanwhile, what about Jones...way to go up strong.....need to see more Joey D,  like to see him in there using 3 or 4 fouls as needed and taking up space.  Right now I make it even money we go 9-9 if there is no more drama.

And 9-9 gets us where?

jones is awful . Not his fault we lost . They played great. But jones is awful .

Quote from: cjfish on January 07, 2015, 12:07:51 AM

Quote from: Poison on January 06, 2015, 11:56:43 PM

It's just one game. They played very well for 30 minutes. Jordan, hopefully is just an emotional mess, and he'll calm down. Jones can't be out there. He isn't able to play at this level. He's a D2 player. There is a 6'7 walk on that looked good in practice. Give him Jones' minutes. All of them.

I thought we committed some stupid ticky tack fouls in the first half and it bit us in the second half. Obekpa really has improved, but he faced a pro big man today, and he got beat bad. He's coming back next year. He's not a pro yet.

You are right on point....30 good minutes.....problem is what was gonna kill us would happen late.  CO simply can not handle big bigs, cant handle wide Charles Barkley-like asses...he gets pinned and is in trouble, which means he fouls....which means he is not there to anchor the D re overplay coverage....no bench leads to a tired last 10.....re next year, looks like CO and Jordan will be back given their play (Jordan of course could leave for a variety of reasons not connected to his play)    If Jordan practices for the next week things may improve.  Meanwhile, what about Jones...way to go up strong.....need to see more Joey D,  like to see him in there using 3 or 4 fouls as needed and taking up space.  Right now I make it even money we go 9-9 if there is no more drama.

And 9-9 gets us where?

On the bubble, w a shot

Dangelo was phenomenal. His midrange game is a work of art.   Truly an elite skill, and it's fun to watch.  He is the definition of a crafty offensive player.

Jordan sucked.  Not much else to say. 

Lavin also sucked.  And not for anything in particular he did in this game, although I would have played Delarosa or Jones more when we were getting killed on the boards, despite the fact that they have very limited skill.
But SL cost us a chance in this game because we don't have a serviceable player above 6"5 besides Obekpa.   
You cannot play a full season with only one Center or powerforward.  And that's what we've been trying to do. Dom has given his all, but he's a wing, not a front court player.

This sums my thoughts up perfectly.

#whynot

But going where? Home?

The only thing going for St johns is they have a week off to rest. And if you look at their next eight games in BE play all seem winnable even with 6 men. They seem to all come against opponents that we match up well(errr..OK) against. 6-2 in their next eight conference games doesnt seem out of the question. That would get them to 6-5 with a tough finish to the schedule. Trying to be optimistic with my first post


And btw,coming from someone at the game Black Jesus looked like a stud tonight. Loved his hustle and demeanor.
#why.....

The only thing going for St johns is they have a week off to rest. And if you look at their next eight games in BE play all seem winnable even with 6 men. They seem to all come against opponents that we match up well(errr..OK) against. 6-2 in their next eight conference games doesnt seem out of the question. That would get them to 6-5 with a tough finish to the schedule. Trying to be optimistic with my first post


And btw,coming from someone at the game Black Jesus looked like a stud tonight. Loved his hustle and demeanor.
#why.....

Finally a much needed rest.  4 games in ten days against teams with 11 or more wins while dealing with this whole Rysheed Jordan saga. The week of practice without class will be huge for this team. 

A solid RPI and a respectable 11-4 record against a very tough schedule:

#7 Gonzaga 14-1
#8 Villanova 14-1
#19 Seton Hall 12-2
St. Mary's 12-3  (4-0 in WCC, 6-0 since losing to us)
Tulane 11-3  (Just beat Memphis for second road win to start AAC 2-0)
Syracuse  10-4
Minnesota  11-5
#28 Butler 11-5

Even NJIT won @ Michigan, Long Beach State beat Xavier, and FDU won @ St. Joe's.

Quote from: cjfish on January 07, 2015, 12:07:51 AM

Quote from: Poison on January 06, 2015, 11:56:43 PM

It's just one game. They played very well for 30 minutes. Jordan, hopefully is just an emotional mess, and he'll calm down. Jones can't be out there. He isn't able to play at this level. He's a D2 player. There is a 6'7 walk on that looked good in practice. Give him Jones' minutes. All of them.

I thought we committed some stupid ticky tack fouls in the first half and it bit us in the second half. Obekpa really has improved, but he faced a pro big man today, and he got beat bad. He's coming back next year. He's not a pro yet.

You are right on point....30 good minutes.....problem is what was gonna kill us would happen late.  CO simply can not handle big bigs, cant handle wide Charles Barkley-like asses...he gets pinned and is in trouble, which means he fouls....which means he is not there to anchor the D re overplay coverage....no bench leads to a tired last 10.....re next year, looks like CO and Jordan will be back given their play (Jordan of course could leave for a variety of reasons not connected to his play)    If Jordan practices for the next week things may improve.  Meanwhile, what about Jones...way to go up strong.....need to see more Joey D,  like to see him in there using 3 or 4 fouls as needed and taking up space.  Right now I make it even money we go 9-9 if there is no more drama.

And 9-9 gets us where?

We would have to make it to Saturday in the BET to have a chance to get in at 9-9