Obekpa suspended

Time to get a Hurley while the getting is good. Enough of this nonsense

Silver Lining - we'LL be first in line of the tourney teams 

Any word on how broadly Obekpa grinned when he found out he was suspended?

Cheshire Cat - he was still in the fog

Quote from: P1NSTR1PEZ on March 15, 2015, 05:27:19 PM

give Bobby Hurley A BLANK CHECK NOW.

Miller, Danny, Bobby, Mas in that order. Whoever agrees, sign em up

Nice

Quote from: bball purist on March 15, 2015, 05:34:32 PM

Quote from: P1NSTR1PEZ on March 15, 2015, 05:27:19 PM

give Bobby Hurley A BLANK CHECK NOW.

Miller, Danny, Bobby, Mas in that order. Whoever agrees, sign em up

Nice

Second

Quote from: bball purist on March 15, 2015, 05:30:49 PM

Quote from: P1NSTR1PEZ on March 15, 2015, 05:27:19 PM

give Bobby Hurley A BLANK CHECK NOW.

I swear if I'm DLo, Dom or Phil, I get Amar to punch CO's lights Out. What a stupid, selfish dbag. I hope he takes off to Europe.

They should be angry with their coach. He gave the 2 week suspension. A suspension isn't mandatory. There a million ways to handle this. Lavin chose this solution. It says an awful lot about this pathetic university.  Lavin wants to be a teacher. Go be a f'n teacher, and stop ruining every God damn season.

what were other options? 1st game suspension, etc?

I forgot details, but wasn't McGary nabbed for the pre-tourney test, but they didn't announce until later because he was injured and not playing anyway. Is that correct? And he got the full year.

that explains the grinning.  Anyone still thing he has pro potential? Kid is sinking to clown level

I forgot details, but wasn't McGary nabbed for the pre-tourney test, but they didn't announce until later because he was injured and not playing anyway. Is that correct? And he got the full year.

Yes. I guess Michigan doesnt operate their institution with the morals that St.John's does. Too bad Michigan is still widely considered to be one of the best schools in the nation, and we are an absolute piece of garbage.

We should've cut him loose after he refused to re-enter the Big East Tournament game last year then quit the team and announced a transfer. Guy's a screwball.

If Lavin had not stopped bringing in players he could have told CO see'ya. All the problems can be traced back to not having enough BE players on the roster. Steve has to promise players all the minutes they want to get them to come play for him. Even then team has the look of bare bones going into next year. Coach says that this is where he wants to be, but how does he show it to the fans? I hate knocking a coach, but the neglect is glaring.

Quote from: desco80 on March 15, 2015, 04:19:25 PM

Quote from: Dan on March 15, 2015, 04:16:56 PM

here's the problem with putting all the blame on Obpeka though...

Lavin recruited him.  Lavin has had trouble recruiting players that don't have attitude issues and players that don't constantly find themselves suspended.  That's on him.  He's a bad head coach, all around.

Oh, definitely not all the blame.  Stevie deserves his share. 

Lavin does share some blame, but on this one, it's mostly Obekpa.  Show some responsibility.  No one is gonna be there to hold his hand and watch what he's doing at every moment  I'm not saying that's what Obekpa is expecting, but to some posters who feel everything falls on Lavin.

We should have a roster that doesn't need Opekpa. The roster is all on Steve. If a kid gets the flu, team is dead. And this is not Bill Russel we are replacing. We thought the season was over when Jordan's status was unknown.Now the fan base knows how we stand. 

Quote from: desco80 on March 15, 2015, 04:12:10 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 04:04:04 PM

Do I understand this correctly that Lavin busted Obekpa for smoking weed, and then immediately raised his hand to tattle on him? If that is the case, Lavin can go F himself.

Go be a "teacher" somewhere else. St.John's has teachers. That isn't his damn job.

All athletes get tested before any NCAA championship.   During the season its just random, 2 or 3 guys here and there.
But before the tournament they would all be tested.   

So, like I said, Lavin wouldn't do this unless he had to.   Ncaa wouldve found out and declared him inelidgible anyway.
Maybe that is what happened?  Who knows. 

Lavin has his built in excuse for when we get killed. I'm more angry with him than I am with Obekpa. Find a way to cover this up, or at least cover it up until April. If all he did is smoke a joint, the guilty party is Lavin. That isn't worthy of a suspension. He's in f*cking college! What college kid doesn't smoke weed? Give him a one hour detention if you have to, but a 2 week suspension is f*cking crazy.

What a f*cking disease St.John's is.

Huh?  Wasn't not reporting failed drug tests one of the reasons Syracuse was hammered a few days ago?  Do you really believe what you just posted?

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 04:23:23 PM

Quote from: desco80 on March 15, 2015, 04:12:10 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 04:04:04 PM

Do I understand this correctly that Lavin busted Obekpa for smoking weed, and then immediately raised his hand to tattle on him? If that is the case, Lavin can go F himself.

Go be a "teacher" somewhere else. St.John's has teachers. That isn't his damn job.

All athletes get tested before any NCAA championship.   During the season its just random, 2 or 3 guys here and there.
But before the tournament they would all be tested.   

So, like I said, Lavin wouldn't do this unless he had to.   Ncaa wouldve found out and declared him inelidgible anyway.
Maybe that is what happened?  Who knows. 

Lavin has his built in excuse for when we get killed. I'm more angry with him than I am with Obekpa. Find a way to cover this up, or at least cover it up until April. If all he did is smoke a joint, the guilty party is Lavin. That isn't worthy of a suspension. He's in f*cking college! What college kid doesn't smoke weed? Give him a one hour detention if you have to, but a 2 week suspension is f*cking crazy.

What a f*cking disease St.John's is.

Huh?  Wasn't not reporting failed drug tests one of the reasons Syracuse was hammered a few days ago?  Do you really believe what you just posted?

Yes, I do. A player fails a drug test, fine. You don't have to discipline him in this way. Lavin did this to wash away his own responsibility for the season and the program.

Lavin has no place as a teacher. He's a terrible teacher. He's also a pretty lousy coach. We'll miss some of his recruiting, but when we replace him with Steve Massiello or Bobby Hurley, we'll be reminded that recruiting 4/5 star players is less important than developing a clear system.

We see Lavin's system rear its head every few weeks. It's failed, and it's clearly time to move on. While I don't believe for a second that Chris Obekpa did anything wrong, this is the system he chose to be a part of, and for that, I feel badly for him. On Thursday, billions of people will be watching the NCAA tournament stoned out of their minds, and Obekpa, who probably smoked a joint, is suspended. Granted, he should have been well aware that it wasn't allowed, but that doesn't mean that he is guilty of doing anything wrong. He's not.

Sadly, there is no one other than the President of St.John's who can teach Lavin the lesson he so desperately needs to learn. Hopefully, he is as angry over this failed season as I am.

And for the record, we can rewatch the SU STJ from this year over and over again all summer, because it's all we're going to have for a while. For all of their cheating, by and large, all they have to deal with is a little embarrassment and a few ships taken away. They'll probably wipe the floor with us next year.

Quote from: redmen not storm on March 15, 2015, 04:50:05 PM

Good use of emoticons. Baldi's is the only sane one of the bunch at this point

I've been the most realistic jackarse here in months. You dudes need to start reading between the lines. Why would Lavin say he is a poor conference tournament coach. He's asking to be fired or saw writing on the wall

You are a funny dude... The lines you're reading between must be powdery white.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on March 15, 2015, 04:54:00 PM

Quote from: redmen not storm on March 15, 2015, 04:50:05 PM

Good use of emoticons. Baldi's is the only sane one of the bunch at this point

I've been the most realistic jackarse here in months. You dudes need to start reading between the lines. Why would Lavin say he is a poor conference tournament coach. He's asking to be fired or saw writing on the wall

You are a funny dude... The lines you're reading between must be powdery white.

That was pretty funny!

Poison, I respect you as a poster but you are totally wrong on the obligation to report and to suspend.

Quote from: simplyred on March 15, 2015, 07:47:42 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 04:23:23 PM

Quote from: desco80 on March 15, 2015, 04:12:10 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 04:04:04 PM

Do I understand this correctly that Lavin busted Obekpa for smoking weed, and then immediately raised his hand to tattle on him? If that is the case, Lavin can go F himself.

Go be a "teacher" somewhere else. St.John's has teachers. That isn't his damn job.

All athletes get tested before any NCAA championship.   During the season its just random, 2 or 3 guys here and there.
But before the tournament they would all be tested.   

So, like I said, Lavin wouldn't do this unless he had to.   Ncaa wouldve found out and declared him inelidgible anyway.
Maybe that is what happened?  Who knows. 

Lavin has his built in excuse for when we get killed. I'm more angry with him than I am with Obekpa. Find a way to cover this up, or at least cover it up until April. If all he did is smoke a joint, the guilty party is Lavin. That isn't worthy of a suspension. He's in f*cking college! What college kid doesn't smoke weed? Give him a one hour detention if you have to, but a 2 week suspension is f*cking crazy.

What a f*cking disease St.John's is.

Huh?  Wasn't not reporting failed drug tests one of the reasons Syracuse was hammered a few days ago?  Do you really believe what you just posted?

Yes, I do. A player fails a drug test, fine. You don't have to discipline him in this way. Lavin did this to wash away his own responsibility for the season and the program.

Lavin has no place as a teacher. He's a terrible teacher. He's also a pretty lousy coach. We'll miss some of his recruiting, but when we replace him with Steve Massiello or Bobby Hurley, we'll be reminded that recruiting 4/5 star players is less important than developing a clear system.

We see Lavin's system rear its head every few weeks. It's failed, and it's clearly time to move on. While I don't believe for a second that Chris Obekpa did anything wrong, this is the system he chose to be a part of, and for that, I feel badly for him. On Thursday, billions of people will be watching the NCAA tournament stoned out of their minds, and Obekpa, who probably smoked a joint, is suspended. Granted, he should have been well aware that it wasn't allowed, but that doesn't mean that he is guilty of doing anything wrong. He's not.

Sadly, there is no one other than the President of St.John's who can teach Lavin the lesson he so desperately needs to learn. Hopefully, he is as angry over this failed season as I am.

And for the record, we can rewatch the SU STJ from this year over and over again all summer, because it's all we're going to have for a while. For all of their cheating, by and large, all they have to deal with is a little embarrassment and a few ships taken away. They'll probably wipe the floor with us next year.

everytime you write about team discipline you embarrass yourself. you don't know s**t about what happened but have declared yourself judge and jury. love SJU hoops but reading people like you turns me off completely. I'll root for the team and ignore all the noise from this BS.

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 07:59:02 PM

Quote from: simplyred on March 15, 2015, 07:47:42 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 04:23:23 PM

Quote from: desco80 on March 15, 2015, 04:12:10 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 04:04:04 PM

Do I understand this correctly that Lavin busted Obekpa for smoking weed, and then immediately raised his hand to tattle on him? If that is the case, Lavin can go F himself.

Go be a "teacher" somewhere else. St.John's has teachers. That isn't his damn job.

All athletes get tested before any NCAA championship.   During the season its just random, 2 or 3 guys here and there.
But before the tournament they would all be tested.   

So, like I said, Lavin wouldn't do this unless he had to.   Ncaa wouldve found out and declared him inelidgible anyway.
Maybe that is what happened?  Who knows. 

Lavin has his built in excuse for when we get killed. I'm more angry with him than I am with Obekpa. Find a way to cover this up, or at least cover it up until April. If all he did is smoke a joint, the guilty party is Lavin. That isn't worthy of a suspension. He's in f*cking college! What college kid doesn't smoke weed? Give him a one hour detention if you have to, but a 2 week suspension is f*cking crazy.

What a f*cking disease St.John's is.

Huh?  Wasn't not reporting failed drug tests one of the reasons Syracuse was hammered a few days ago?  Do you really believe what you just posted?

Yes, I do. A player fails a drug test, fine. You don't have to discipline him in this way. Lavin did this to wash away his own responsibility for the season and the program.

Lavin has no place as a teacher. He's a terrible teacher. He's also a pretty lousy coach. We'll miss some of his recruiting, but when we replace him with Steve Massiello or Bobby Hurley, we'll be reminded that recruiting 4/5 star players is less important than developing a clear system.

We see Lavin's system rear its head every few weeks. It's failed, and it's clearly time to move on. While I don't believe for a second that Chris Obekpa did anything wrong, this is the system he chose to be a part of, and for that, I feel badly for him. On Thursday, billions of people will be watching the NCAA tournament stoned out of their minds, and Obekpa, who probably smoked a joint, is suspended. Granted, he should have been well aware that it wasn't allowed, but that doesn't mean that he is guilty of doing anything wrong. He's not.

Sadly, there is no one other than the President of St.John's who can teach Lavin the lesson he so desperately needs to learn. Hopefully, he is as angry over this failed season as I am.

And for the record, we can rewatch the SU STJ from this year over and over again all summer, because it's all we're going to have for a while. For all of their cheating, by and large, all they have to deal with is a little embarrassment and a few ships taken away. They'll probably wipe the floor with us next year.

everytime you write about team discipline you embarrass yourself. you don't know s**t about what happened but have declared yourself judge and jury. love SJU hoops but reading people like you turns me off completely. I'll root for the team and ignore all the noise from this BS.

The ignorant views he spews on this boards never ceases to amaze.  At least he's consistent.

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 07:59:02 PM

Quote from: simplyred on March 15, 2015, 07:47:42 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 04:23:23 PM

Quote from: desco80 on March 15, 2015, 04:12:10 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 15, 2015, 04:04:04 PM

Do I understand this correctly that Lavin busted Obekpa for smoking weed, and then immediately raised his hand to tattle on him? If that is the case, Lavin can go F himself.

Go be a "teacher" somewhere else. St.John's has teachers. That isn't his damn job.

All athletes get tested before any NCAA championship.   During the season its just random, 2 or 3 guys here and there.
But before the tournament they would all be tested.   

So, like I said, Lavin wouldn't do this unless he had to.   Ncaa wouldve found out and declared him inelidgible anyway.
Maybe that is what happened?  Who knows. 

Lavin has his built in excuse for when we get killed. I'm more angry with him than I am with Obekpa. Find a way to cover this up, or at least cover it up until April. If all he did is smoke a joint, the guilty party is Lavin. That isn't worthy of a suspension. He's in f*cking college! What college kid doesn't smoke weed? Give him a one hour detention if you have to, but a 2 week suspension is f*cking crazy.

What a f*cking disease St.John's is.

Huh?  Wasn't not reporting failed drug tests one of the reasons Syracuse was hammered a few days ago?  Do you really believe what you just posted?

Yes, I do. A player fails a drug test, fine. You don't have to discipline him in this way. Lavin did this to wash away his own responsibility for the season and the program.

Lavin has no place as a teacher. He's a terrible teacher. He's also a pretty lousy coach. We'll miss some of his recruiting, but when we replace him with Steve Massiello or Bobby Hurley, we'll be reminded that recruiting 4/5 star players is less important than developing a clear system.

We see Lavin's system rear its head every few weeks. It's failed, and it's clearly time to move on. While I don't believe for a second that Chris Obekpa did anything wrong, this is the system he chose to be a part of, and for that, I feel badly for him. On Thursday, billions of people will be watching the NCAA tournament stoned out of their minds, and Obekpa, who probably smoked a joint, is suspended. Granted, he should have been well aware that it wasn't allowed, but that doesn't mean that he is guilty of doing anything wrong. He's not.

Sadly, there is no one other than the President of St.John's who can teach Lavin the lesson he so desperately needs to learn. Hopefully, he is as angry over this failed season as I am.

And for the record, we can rewatch the SU STJ from this year over and over again all summer, because it's all we're going to have for a while. For all of their cheating, by and large, all they have to deal with is a little embarrassment and a few ships taken away. They'll probably wipe the floor with us next year.

everytime you write about team discipline you embarrass yourself. you don't know s**t about what happened but have declared yourself judge and jury. love SJU hoops but reading people like you turns me off completely. I'll root for the team and ignore all the noise from this BS.

You're damn right I'm judge and jury.

Poison, I respect you as a poster but you are totally wrong on the obligation to report and to suspend.

Obligation to report, yes. Obligation to suspend? If I'm totally wrong, where exactly is that written, and what on earth does a suspension accomplish?

Quote from: 96 Schermerhorn Street on March 15, 2015, 04:58:43 PM

Quote from: stjohnnie75 on March 15, 2015, 04:53:14 PM

What is the penalty for a positive drug test?

The penalty for positive tests of both performance-enhancing and street drugs is strict and automatic. Student-athletes lose one full year of eligibility for the first offense (25 percent of their total eligibility) and are withheld from competition for a full season. A second positive test for street drugs results in another lost year of eligibility and year withheld from competition. A second positive result for PED usage will render the student-athlete permanently ineligible.

What is the penalty for failing a school-issued drug test?

Each NCAA member is responsible for determining whether to establish an institutional drug-testing program, at which time the school would be responsible for determining applicable penalties. If a testing program is established, though, the school is obligated to enforce the penalties. Failure to do so can lead to NCAA sanctions.

So it is my understanding that a self imposed suspension would keep CO from losing a year of eligibility. Not sure if he would lose that eligibility this year or next.

Thank you seem we have a few here who would be happy with the Syracuse type morality

I would be very happy with a program that is guilty of some under the table payments, some academic fraud and some failed drug tests than a program like ours, for example who is guilty of under the table payments, failed drug tests, assault and oh yea, murder.

Give me SU and all of their massively insignificant "crimes" to go along with their wins over top 25 programs, their NCAA appearances and the success at getting talent to the next level.

I'd be able to live with myself just fine.

But throw that religious  kid whose religion has taught him that homosexuality is not
an exceptable  lifestyle off the team.