Lamont Jones - PG - American Christian School - Aston, PA - IONA

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 08, 2011, 01:38:15 PM

I would guess him staying so close to home makes the NCAA's decision a bit easier?

Now say Momo does get the waiver, Iona would have to have one of the best backcourts in the nation along with a top big man. Scott Machado,Momo Jones and Mike Glover. Am I biased with this?

Oh I agree.  I would put it right behind the UK backcourt of Marquis Teague and Doron Lamb, UNC's backcourt of Kendall Marshall and Dexter Strickland and just ahead of Duke's backcourt of Austin Rivers and Tyler Thornton/Andre Dawkins/Seth Curry and Arizona's backcourt of Josiah Turner/Nick Johnson/Jordin Mayes.

First stop New Rochelle, next stop New Orleans and the Final Four!!!!  LOL!!!

Quote from: fordham96 on June 08, 2011, 02:16:27 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 08, 2011, 01:38:15 PM

I would guess him staying so close to home makes the NCAA's decision a bit easier?

Now say Momo does get the waiver, Iona would have to have one of the best backcourts in the nation along with a top big man. Scott Machado,Momo Jones and Mike Glover. Am I biased with this?

Oh I agree.  I would put it right behind the UK backcourt of Marquis Teague and Doron Lamb, UNC's backcourt of Kendall Marshall and Dexter Strickland and just ahead of Duke's backcourt of Austin Rivers and Tyler Thornton/Andre Dawkins/Seth Curry and Arizona's backcourt of Josiah Turner/Nick Johnson/Jordin Mayes.

First stop New Rochelle, next stop New Orleans and the Final Four!!!!  LOL!!!

Like I said,ONE OF THE BEST. Alot of the guys youve mentioned havent played a college game yet. Machado was top 3 in assists

Congrats Baldi!!!!

Again I think his chance at a waiver is thin but at least he stays in the area whcih gives him a shot.

First Sterling Gibbs doesn't bite at SHU and now Momo.  Wow!!!

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 08, 2011, 03:27:15 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on June 08, 2011, 02:16:27 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 08, 2011, 01:38:15 PM

I would guess him staying so close to home makes the NCAA's decision a bit easier?

Now say Momo does get the waiver, Iona would have to have one of the best backcourts in the nation along with a top big man. Scott Machado,Momo Jones and Mike Glover. Am I biased with this?

Oh I agree.  I would put it right behind the UK backcourt of Marquis Teague and Doron Lamb, UNC's backcourt of Kendall Marshall and Dexter Strickland and just ahead of Duke's backcourt of Austin Rivers and Tyler Thornton/Andre Dawkins/Seth Curry and Arizona's backcourt of Josiah Turner/Nick Johnson/Jordin Mayes.

First stop New Rochelle, next stop New Orleans and the Final Four!!!!  LOL!!!

Like I said,ONE OF THE BEST. Alot of the guys youve mentioned havent played a college game yet. Machado was top 3 in assists

Would he be top 3 in assists playing BCS conference schedule?  Tough to say a MAAC team has one of the best backcourts in the country when they are playing Manhattan and Canisius twice a yr.

Quote from: Moose on June 08, 2011, 03:40:16 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 08, 2011, 03:27:15 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on June 08, 2011, 02:16:27 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 08, 2011, 01:38:15 PM

I would guess him staying so close to home makes the NCAA's decision a bit easier?

Now say Momo does get the waiver, Iona would have to have one of the best backcourts in the nation along with a top big man. Scott Machado,Momo Jones and Mike Glover. Am I biased with this?

Oh I agree.  I would put it right behind the UK backcourt of Marquis Teague and Doron Lamb, UNC's backcourt of Kendall Marshall and Dexter Strickland and just ahead of Duke's backcourt of Austin Rivers and Tyler Thornton/Andre Dawkins/Seth Curry and Arizona's backcourt of Josiah Turner/Nick Johnson/Jordin Mayes.

First stop New Rochelle, next stop New Orleans and the Final Four!!!!  LOL!!!

Like I said,ONE OF THE BEST. Alot of the guys youve mentioned havent played a college game yet. Machado was top 3 in assists

Would he be top 3 in assists playing BCS conference schedule?  Tough to say a MAAC team has one of the best backcourts in the country when they are playing Manhattan and Canisius twice a yr.

"Macho Man" Machado ... 

Machado vs Syracuse had 11 points and 13 assists, against Richmond he had 28 pts and 6 assists and matched up with  Charles Jenkins{future pro) and Hofstra he had 17 and 11

Quote from: Moose on June 08, 2011, 03:40:16 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 08, 2011, 03:27:15 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on June 08, 2011, 02:16:27 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 08, 2011, 01:38:15 PM

I would guess him staying so close to home makes the NCAA's decision a bit easier?

Now say Momo does get the waiver, Iona would have to have one of the best backcourts in the nation along with a top big man. Scott Machado,Momo Jones and Mike Glover. Am I biased with this?

Oh I agree.  I would put it right behind the UK backcourt of Marquis Teague and Doron Lamb, UNC's backcourt of Kendall Marshall and Dexter Strickland and just ahead of Duke's backcourt of Austin Rivers and Tyler Thornton/Andre Dawkins/Seth Curry and Arizona's backcourt of Josiah Turner/Nick Johnson/Jordin Mayes.

First stop New Rochelle, next stop New Orleans and the Final Four!!!!  LOL!!!

Like I said,ONE OF THE BEST. Alot of the guys youve mentioned havent played a college game yet. Machado was top 3 in assists

Would he be top 3 in assists playing BCS conference schedule?  Tough to say a MAAC team has one of the best backcourts in the country when they are playing Manhattan and Canisius twice a yr.

Machado vs Syracuse had 11 points and 13 assists, against Richmond he had 28 pts and 6 assists and matched up with  Charles Jenkins{future pro) and Hofstra he had 17 and 11

Guys give me a break with this experience stuff.  I know it helps but no one on this planet would take Scott Machado over Austin Rivers, Quinn Cook, Josiah Turner etc. I don't care if they just changed their own diapers.  Those guys would start for Iona or Manhattan or (insert every God for saken MAAC school) from day one and you know it.  So by definition they are better then anyone in the MAAC.

I agree Iona will be one of the favorites in the MAAC and if Jones is eligible this coming season then they will probably be THE favorite.  But Jones is a great example.  The guy avg. 9 points.  Not terribly impressive on the surface.  But he did it at a big time program called Arizona and does anyone doubt he steps in at Iona and starts day one?  Because the gulf between the MAAC and Arizona is as wide as the Atlantic Ocean.

And people talk about big time freshmen like Felipe Lopez and Zendon Hamilton being disappointments early on.  Perhaps.  But a disappointment in the Big East is one thing.  A disappointment in the MAAC is something else.  In other words in their freshmen seasons they went 7-11 in the BE and went to the NIT.  Disappointment.  But translate that to the MAAC.  Are you telling me they would have gone 7-11 in the MAAC?  My guess is they would have probably won the MAAC and if you asked Brian Mahoney if he could trade that season with his players for a season in the MAAC instead of the BE and have it count the same in terms of perception I think he would have taken his chances in the MAAC, no?

Yes guys disappoint.  But that does not mean they would have had the same results against CLEARLY INFERIOR competition if given the same team and same players etc but instead played in the MAAC.

Quote from: fordham96 on June 08, 2011, 04:30:00 PM

Guys give me a break with this experience stuff.  I know it helps but no one on this planet would take Scott Machado over Austin Rivers, Quinn Cook, Josiah Turner etc. I don't care if they just changed their own diapers.  Those guys would start for Iona or Manhattan or (insert every God for saken MAAC school) from day one and you know it.  So by definition they are better then anyone in the MAAC.

I agree Iona will be one of the favorites in the MAAC and if Jones is eligible this coming season then they will probably be THE favorite.  But Jones is a great example.  The guy avg. 9 points.  Not terribly impressive on the surface.  But he did it at a big time program called Arizona and does anyone doubt he steps in at Iona and starts day one?  Because the gulf between the MAAC and Arizona is as wide as the Atlantic Ocean.

And people talk about big time freshmen like Felipe Lopez and Zendon Hamilton being disappointments early on.  Perhaps.  But a disappointment in the Big East is one thing.  A disappointment in the MAAC is something else.  In other words in their freshmen seasons they went 7-11 in the BE and went to the NIT.  Disappointment.  But translate that to the MAAC.  Are you telling me they would have gone 7-11 in the MAAC?  My guess is they would have probably won the MAAC and if you asked Brian Mahoney if he could trade that season with his players for a season in the MAAC instead of the BE and have it count the same in terms of perception I think he would have taken his chances in the MAAC, no?

Yes guys disappoint.  But that does not mean they would have had the same results against CLEARLY INFERIOR competition if given the same team and same players etc but instead played in the MAAC.

Sounds like fordham has had enough of Baldi pissing in his Cheerios. Next years Iona backcourt will be better than probably half the Big East teams'

I think I made made my point.  I don't see anyone disputing my point that all of those players including the SJU freshmen would start for any MAAC team and everyone knows that.

I think I made made my point.  I don't see anyone disputing my point that all of those players including the SJU freshmen would start for any MAAC team and everyone knows that. 

Iona MAY have the best team in the metro area next year (assuming Momo gets a waiver) RELATIVE to their level of play and their conference.  I will not concede they are better then SJU (assuming SJU does not go 1-17!!!!) because even a mediocre SJU team can compete and win a MAAC title.  It is apples and oranges.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 08, 2011, 09:33:01 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on June 08, 2011, 04:30:00 PM

Guys give me a break with this experience stuff.  I know it helps but no one on this planet would take Scott Machado over Austin Rivers, Quinn Cook, Josiah Turner etc. I don't care if they just changed their own diapers.  Those guys would start for Iona or Manhattan or (insert every God for saken MAAC school) from day one and you know it.  So by definition they are better then anyone in the MAAC.

I agree Iona will be one of the favorites in the MAAC and if Jones is eligible this coming season then they will probably be THE favorite.  But Jones is a great example.  The guy avg. 9 points.  Not terribly impressive on the surface.  But he did it at a big time program called Arizona and does anyone doubt he steps in at Iona and starts day one?  Because the gulf between the MAAC and Arizona is as wide as the Atlantic Ocean.

And people talk about big time freshmen like Felipe Lopez and Zendon Hamilton being disappointments early on.  Perhaps.  But a disappointment in the Big East is one thing.  A disappointment in the MAAC is something else.  In other words in their freshmen seasons they went 7-11 in the BE and went to the NIT.  Disappointment.  But translate that to the MAAC.  Are you telling me they would have gone 7-11 in the MAAC?  My guess is they would have probably won the MAAC and if you asked Brian Mahoney if he could trade that season with his players for a season in the MAAC instead of the BE and have it count the same in terms of perception I think he would have taken his chances in the MAAC, no?

Yes guys disappoint.  But that does not mean they would have had the same results against CLEARLY INFERIOR competition if given the same team and same players etc but instead played in the MAAC.

Sounds like fordham has had enough of Baldi pissing in his Cheerios. Next years Iona backcourt will be better than probably half the Big East teams'

Quote from: fordham96 on June 08, 2011, 10:10:29 PM

I think I made made my point.  I don't see anyone disputing my point that all of those players including the SJU freshmen would start for any MAAC team and everyone knows that.

Put our sixth through 10th players in 2012-13 as starters on any team in the MAAC and they would win that conference.

Now we are back to the question of the waiver.  And do we care?

Based on Momo's vast history of transferring, the fact that he was probably going to be replaced in the starting PG spot, and his family care situation is a bit vague, I do not see the NCAA ruling in his favor.  But hey, who can predict how the NCAA will decide in any situation?

Quote from: Gumby on June 09, 2011, 08:35:47 AM

Now we are back to the question of the waiver.  And do we care?

Based on Momo's vast history of transferring, the fact that he was probably going to be replaced in the starting PG spot, and his family care situation is a bit vague, I do not see the NCAA ruling in his favor.  But hey, who can predict how the NCAA will decide in any situation?

Since Baldi loves pushing our buttons I hope he doesn't get the waiver

But also Iona is close to me and I try to make it to some games each year.  Would be fun to watch.