Mussini

He just needs to gain weight, height, athleticism and balance and I think he will be ok

He performed mightily in both of our signature wins.  Also, has shot exceptionally well from the line, decently from 3 and leads the team in steals.

For a Frosh - that's enough.

Because of the lack of talent on the roster he was thrust into a role of being one of the better players on the team. Much like Johnson it was not a role he was suited for. If he came into a better situation he would have not had all his shortcomings exposed so much

Love Mussini at the foul line to close out a game.  I think that if Ellison had advanced the ball to Mussini when he was open in the corner, instead of allowing the double team to close on him and dribbling the ball off his own leg and out of bounds, that Mussini hits his FTs and we win the game. 

(Of course, that's one of about 10 things we could have done better in the closing minutes yesterday to win the game, along with Johnson hitting the 2nd FT, Yakwe coming down with the board, Carrington being called for crashing into Mouvika from the top of the key, or Mouvika not reaching in and fouling Whitehead 75 feet from his hoop with 5 seconds left and the Hall out of timeouts. Take your pick.)

Love Mussini at the foul line to close out a game.  I think that if Ellison had advanced the ball to Mussini when he was open in the corner, instead of allowing the double team to close on him and dribbling the ball off his own leg and out of bounds, that Mussini hits his FTs and we win the game. 

(Of course, that's one of about 10 things we could have done better in the closing minutes yesterday to win the game, along with Johnson hitting the 2nd FT, Yakwe coming down with the board, Carrington being called for crashing into Mouvika from the top of the key, or Mouvika not reaching in and fouling Whitehead 75 feet from his hoop with 5 seconds left and the Hall out of timeouts. Take your pick.)

To me that is the thing that bothers me: whether or not they could have let Ron's foul go, there was no reason to be that aggressive in that situation.

I don't think he fouled him.  If he got the ball we probably win.

He obviously needs to get stronger. As the season progressed, his production has gone done. He will (and SJU) will benefit greatly having him play off the ball but also have the luxury of having 2 ball handlers on the court at all times next year with him, Marcus, and Ponds.     

I don't think he fouled him.  If he got the ball we probably win.

Unfortunately you were not a ref.
Stupid to put himself in that situation. It was clearly a foul, the point is could it have been let go. It could have but I got the feeling that if ref did not blow whistle, Ron would have went on for final 5 seconds trying to do whatever it was he was trying to do there. 

(Of course, that's one of about 10 things we could have done better in the closing minutes yesterday to win the game, along with Johnson hitting the 2nd FT, Yakwe coming down with the board, Carrington being called for crashing into Mouvika from the top of the key, or Mouvika not reaching in and fouling Whitehead 75 feet from his hoop with 5 seconds left and the Hall out of timeouts. Take your pick.)

I would like to add Whitehead being called for purposefully hitting Ellison in the face with an elbow and shooting 10 for 24 from the line to this list.

P.S.  You're never going to get a jump ball call reaching over the guys back to tie it up in front of him. Just not gonna happen.  If we could just back off there - Whitehead has 5 seconds,  is facing the wrong way and is 80 feet from the basket.

So what you guys are saying is let the other team get the loose ball with 5 seconds left? Monday morning quarterbacking. Plenty of chances to win. Hoping we win Thursday vs DePaul. Would love to get another shot a t Marquette. Winnable March game.

So what you guys are saying is let the other team get the loose ball with 5 seconds left?

No.  Go for the loose ball initially,  but when you know you can't get it cleanly - don't try to tie it up by reaching over the guys back.  We had a 1 pt. lead.  We didn't need the ball.

Exactly.  I thought the foul call was BS - not because of a lack of contact, but because of the circumstances (you have to tackle a guy in that spot, or impede his progress significantly, to be whistled in that spot IMO).  Notwithstanding that, the whole reason you don't do what Ron did is because of the risk it might get called.

Quote from: TONYD3 on February 22, 2016, 05:58:04 PM

So what you guys are saying is let the other team get the loose ball with 5 seconds left?

No.  Go for the loose ball initially,  but when you know you can't get it cleanly - don't try to tie it up by reaching over the guys back.  We had a 1 pt. lead.  We didn't need the ball.

Funny how everyone thinks he sucks now...

SHOOTING 34%

Mussini's shooting in Big East play has been nothing short of discouraging.  He has not been able to play effectively against the speed and physicality of Big East guards.  Considering his performance, we might do well to temper our expectations regarding Freudenberg next year: maybe shooting well in Europe against what is obviously weaker competition simply doesn't translate to the Big East.

Mussini's shooting in Big East play has been nothing short of discouraging.  He has not been able to play effectively against the speed and physicality of Big East guards.  Considering his performance, we might do well to temper our expectations regarding Freudenberg next year: maybe shooting well in Europe against what is obviously weaker competition simply doesn't translate to the Big East.

Mussini is now not even hitting open shots. I think because he is so physically challenged, his confidence is shot.
German kid 6-8 or 6-9. Won't have same issue getting shots off

Mussini is currently shooting .282 in BE play. He is 13/49 for .265 from two, and 24/82 for .293 from three. (He is, however, 39 for 43 for .907 from the line, although he gets there so infrequently despite being knocked to the floor on almost every drive.)

I believe I read that another BE Assistant Coach mentioned that Mussini was physically shot right now. Was not meant to play this many minutes for a freshman.

It is one thing to look at the result, another to look at the cause.

I believe I read that another BE Assistant Coach mentioned that Mussini was physically shot right now. Was not meant to play this many minutes for a freshman.

It is one thing to look at the result, another to look at the cause.

He'll have from mid March until Novemember to hit the weight room. If he shows up on campus in November, and he hasn't added muscle, there will no reason not to expect more of the same.

Mussini does a good job of moving the ball on offense.  He often passes it as soon as he catches it. Although his turnovers have decreased as his ball handling has improved, his primary value to the team is as an outside shooter. Right now, he's an outside shooter who is not hitting his shots. 

Yes, he's been worn down by his minutes played, but he's also struggled against higher level BE competition as compared to his performance early on against non-league teams.

If he decides to return next year, he will definitely be helped by playing with better point guards.  He has a very quick release and early in the year showed the ability to hit open shots, even very deep ones. He has to shoot at least 40% from three to be an asset to the team next year, and I expect him to do that.  Think he'll do whatever's necessary this offseason to return as a contributing member of a far better team.

Mussini does a good job of moving the ball on offense.  He often passes it as soon as he catches it. Although his turnovers have decreased as his ball handling has improved, his primary value to the team is as an outside shooter. Right now, he's an outside shooter who is not hitting his shots. 

Yes, he's been worn down by his minutes played, but he's also struggled against higher level BE competition as compared to his performance early on against non-league teams.

If he decides to return next year, he will definitely be helped by playing with better point guards.  He has a very quick release and early in the year showed the ability to hit open shots, even very deep ones. He has to shoot at least 40% from three to be an asset to the team next year, and I expect him to do that.  Think he'll do whatever's necessary this offseason to return as a contributing member of a far better team.

I really think all of this talk of Mussini not being used correctly is just an excuse for his limited game. He's tiny, and he's not able to play the point or the two. He's not a forward, so where does that leave him? If he comes off the bench, he's still tiny, weak and slow. He still has to dribble. He still has to guard his man. What am I missing?