Ncaa tourney

Remember this, SJU did not fire Lavin so they can be a decent 9-9/10-8 team every year.  They fired him and hired Mullin to be Villanova.

Everyone at SJU bellieves they have the resources and can get the talent to compete with Villanova at the top of the Big East year in and year out.  Maybe not tomorrow or even next year but our goal as a program is to be Villanova.  Not just because of tonight but because of the last 3 years of total BE dominance.

I want to be better than Nova, not Villanova...  But I get your point,  time to get back to where we belong.  I too think we will be there soon.

I love the haters of the new Big East. When our teams lose the conference sucks but when Nova wins its nothing to do with the Big East. Nova is doing the conference proud and showing what our teams can do. Really pulling for Nova, great job by Jay, his staff and players.

+1.  Lavin recruited off-the-bat to position us to be a deep, talented team like Nova that can win some games in the tournament.  Obviously we know what happened to that group.  Year 4, we had the pieces to win games in the tournament, but not the coaching.  And by Year 5 the recruiting had tapered off to the point where depth was a major issue, especially with our mercurial PG and Obekpa's nonsense.  In truth, the biggest mistake Lavin probably made was putting all of his eggs in the Jordan and Obekpa basket during those classes.  Had we gotten kids of similar or even somewhat lesser talent, but without the baggage, we probably would have won more and Lavin might have still been here.  I'm not criticizing coach necessarily for taking a gamble on those talents - Sheed in particular was off-the-charts - but obviously some better schools were wary of the red flags, and it backfired on our former staff.

Remember this, SJU did not fire Lavin so they can be a decent 9-9/10-8 team every year.  They fired him and hired Mullin to be Villanova.

Everyone at SJU bellieves they have the resources and can get the talent to compete with Villanova at the top of the Big East year in and year out.  Maybe not tomorrow or even next year but our goal as a program is to be Villanova.  Not just because of tonight but because of the last 3 years of total BE dominance.

There's no doubt that Nova is the new standard bearer in the BE. We can only hope that the Johnnies can ever get back to that level which is truly elite. It will take time but if we keep bringing the kids in AND they get coached up, then I think we'll have a shot to be an annual tourney team in a few years.

I will never pull for Nova, I honestly don't care about Conference Rep or Money. We got talent for next year and did not need a strong Conference  Big Dance showing for it. The players shouldn't want to come just to play Nova or Big East Rep, they should come because of the staff and the school getting them ready for NBA.  I for one hope the Sooners wreck them and next year hopefully  we beat the hell out of Nova when they have lost Ochefu and Arch.

For me rooting for Nova is like rooting for the Pats as a Jets fan.  It just cannot be done-they are a bitter rival.

I will never pull for Nova, I honestly don't care about Conference Rep or Money. We got talent for next year and did not need a strong Conference  Big Dance showing for it. The players shouldn't want to come just to play Nova or Big East Rep, they should come because of the staff and the school getting them ready for NBA.  I for one hope the Sooners wreck them and next year hopefully  we beat the hell out of Nova when they have lost Ochefu and Arch.

For me rooting for Nova is like rooting for the Pats as a Jets fan.  It just cannot be done-they are a bitter rival.

Before we "beat the hell out" of anyone we may want to get back to respectability first. Nova is bringing in an elite recruit in Spellman & solid transfer in Eric P from Fordham. (who we tried to get involved with) That added to a nice core of returnees makes them solid. Wright v Chris is also a Nova edge most would agree with.

Perhaps we can steal a game from them next season, but the thought of destroying them is silly. In two seasons perhaps I will entertain that thinking.

Quote from: friendofjohnnie on March 27, 2016, 12:43:46 PM

I will never pull for Nova, I honestly don't care about Conference Rep or Money. We got talent for next year and did not need a strong Conference  Big Dance showing for it. The players shouldn't want to come just to play Nova or Big East Rep, they should come because of the staff and the school getting them ready for NBA.  I for one hope the Sooners wreck them and next year hopefully  we beat the hell out of Nova when they have lost Ochefu and Arch.

For me rooting for Nova is like rooting for the Pats as a Jets fan.  It just cannot be done-they are a bitter rival.

Before we "beat the hell out" of anyone we may want to get back to respectability first. Nova is bringing in an elite recruit in Spellman & solid transfer in Eric P from Fordham. (who we tried to get involved with) That added to a nice core of returnees makes them solid. Wright v Chris is also a Nova edge most would agree with.

Perhaps we can steal a game from them next season, but the thought of destroying them is silly. In two seasons perhaps I will entertain that thinking.

I expect nothing less than a respectable season next year with all that talent. NIT lock/NCAA door knocking team should be able to steal one from Nova, that is a fair assessment.  2 Years if all went right no reason we cannot be the new Nova or close to it by beginning to regularly place in top 3 in conference and no Bubble questions. No more status quo, average nonsense. Lets get to the point when we can regularly take town Georgetown and Nova and be legit contenders again.

Lets not forget this program is 11th all time in NCAA Basketball winning percentage. Enough of being a sleepy giant its time to get back to dominance sooner rather than later. 

I will never pull for Nova, I honestly don't care about Conference Rep or Money. We got talent for next year and did not need a strong Conference  Big Dance showing for it. The players shouldn't want to come just to play Nova or Big East Rep, they should come because of the staff and the school getting them ready for NBA.  I for one hope the Sooners wreck them and next year hopefully  we beat the hell out of Nova when they have lost Ochefu and Arch.

For me rooting for Nova is like rooting for the Pats as a Jets fan.  It just cannot be done-they are a bitter rival.

I understand where you're coming from, as I can't root for Georgetown (as, several posters already know).  I believe I've also stated that I didn't care Seton Hall lost to Gonzaga.  I also wouldn't have sweated it, if Providence had lost to Southern Cal.  Although, there was a part of me wanting to see Providence advance and, possibly, beat UNC.  I do not like the Tar Heels.  Butler and Xavier....  I had no problem rooting for those teams.  I'm not rooting for or against Villanova.  I just wanna see a good game for the most part.  But it's good for the conference to see 'em advance, though.

I was also speaking with a longtime friend, and he said Villanova winning--and, now advancing in tournament--can also make it tougher to get recruits from 'em when going head-to-head in a recruiting battle.  Although, that was something I already once pondered, it kinda hit me when I heard someone else say it.  So, there are pros and cons, per rooting for Big East brethren.   

Yes Lou was able to parlay a final four year into Marco Baldi and the immortal Rob James. 

Yes Lou was able to parlay a final four year into Marco Baldi and the immortal Rob James. 

The Italian stallion!

Quote from: Celtics11 on March 27, 2016, 02:41:53 PM

Yes Lou was able to parlay a final four year into Marco Baldi and the immortal Rob James. 

The Italian stallion!

LOL Guess I should have said the IMMORTAL Marco Baldi. "Hey, how about the big Italian import?"

I think our conference is so young that I think any good PR is GREAT PR so I have no problem rooting for Nova. I like them anyway since all their fans that I know root for St Johns when they aren't playing head to head

Now with the new Big East I can even not hate Georgetown in the NCAA's but totally get why people might still root against them.

If we finally get good again I might feel differently but right now I want the conference to get as much good news as possible. I'm all in on Nova winning everything even though Oklahoma winning will guarantee my office poll victory

Man Syracuse what a rally.

How about Boeheim sticking his middle finger up at the NCAA?

What a stunner.  What odds would you give me if I told you Virginia, this UVA team with Perrantes and Brogden and Gill, would be up 15 with 9 minutes left and would blow it and would actually trail by 6 with more than 3 minutes to go?  100-1, 150-1...

Boeheim is never going to quit....LOL!!!

Boeheim proves that cheating is a terrific idea.

Shocked. Out of necessity Jim B let the kids loose & press rattled an experienced team. Amazing!

Tony Bennett is a good coach but his teams have never been able to consistently score. That's what has burned them in all of their tournament losses

Huge choke job by Bennett

Tony Bennett is a good coach but his teams have never been able to consistently score. That's what has burned them in all of their tournament losses

In his DNA

Quote from: goredmen on March 27, 2016, 08:48:03 PM

Tony Bennett is a good coach but his teams have never been able to consistently score. That's what has burned them in all of their tournament losses

In his DNA

Can't score when you're holding the ball. They had a 3 on 1 break and pulled it out. Turning point