Quote from: fordham96 on April 05, 2016, 03:52:57 PMQuote from: WillieG on April 05, 2016, 03:43:47 PMQuote from: fordham96 on April 05, 2016, 10:37:09 AMQuote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 10:30:02 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 10:17:05 AMQuote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 09:28:15 AMQuote from: nudginator59 on April 05, 2016, 08:54:50 AMWhat has to happen now is that the rest of the conference needs to step up (especially SJU) or the BE may not be taken serious again. This is where Football helps covers up the deficiencies of the other conferences. Nova is only 1-2 in the BET, but I can see critics saying that they are the only "real" basketball program in the conference. It would help if somebody else becomes regular season champs as well, and of course more teams advancing farther.The BE would be fine if St.John's and Depaul towed the line. Both have been a disgrace. You are so dramatic. The new big east has been in existence for 3 years. We were a bubble team year 1, a tourney team year 2 and then this year we obviously sucked. Not that disgraceful but need to be consistent. Yes we did not do our part for years but that was in the much better BE which was so good they didn't even need us to be better. Now they do. Hopefully we do our part. We have not won a tourney game in 16 years. Since Lou retired, we've underachieved in every single season, except for two that the hated Mike Jarvis coached. We are not pulling our weight, but feel free to call me a troll because I'm objective. The BE has always needed us to be good. Our president had other plans. The BE did damn fine with out us being good from 2001 to 2013. Not sure what league you were watching.Correct. The NEW BE does need SJU however I think we all agree. Villanova's win last night was great but it shows more about where Villanova is then where the BE is. In other words Villanova is the clear class of the league by a mile. UNC will always be good but think about this, you had Syracuse in the Final 4, Duke won the Tourney last year, Louisville was a missed FT away from going last year to the Final 4, ND is the only team to go to the Elite 8 the last 2 years and arguably the best team in the league the last 3 years was NONE of those teams-Virginia. Think about that, that is serious depth and strength. Nova would be just another really good team in the ACC whereas in the BE they are head and shoulders above everyone else. And as I said earlier SJU's goal is to get to that level consistently. Not go 10-8 or make 3 NCAA's in 4 years, get to NOVA's level. One thing that fails to get mentioned about this is the fact that the ACC has more schools, so they should have more great teams. But they also have more bad teams. If you look at average RPI they are only slightly better then us. And now we have the Championship team. (Nova was ranked first at one point this year, also. So they're certainly no fluke).Of course that is always going to be the case with oversized leagues. That was the case when the Big East was 16 teams and you had Rutgers, DePaul, S Florida etc. You're not going to have 16 Louisville's, Syracuse's, Duke's etc. That league would literally be impossible. The fact is the though the BE is essentially 1 team right now (Xavier had a good year this year as well). Villanova is far and away the best team. That is not the case with the ACC.I just re-read your post. Can't believe it. Even you are drinking the ESPN Kool Aid. Why don't you call the SEC a one team league. Why don't you go pick on them for a while. Look at their average numbers. Can't believe it. We got six teams in last year. In the last three years, we have gotten fifteen berths out of a possible 30. It's a great league, and there's no way around that. The top four out of 32, every year the last three years.
Quote from: WillieG on April 05, 2016, 03:43:47 PMQuote from: fordham96 on April 05, 2016, 10:37:09 AMQuote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 10:30:02 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 10:17:05 AMQuote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 09:28:15 AMQuote from: nudginator59 on April 05, 2016, 08:54:50 AMWhat has to happen now is that the rest of the conference needs to step up (especially SJU) or the BE may not be taken serious again. This is where Football helps covers up the deficiencies of the other conferences. Nova is only 1-2 in the BET, but I can see critics saying that they are the only "real" basketball program in the conference. It would help if somebody else becomes regular season champs as well, and of course more teams advancing farther.The BE would be fine if St.John's and Depaul towed the line. Both have been a disgrace. You are so dramatic. The new big east has been in existence for 3 years. We were a bubble team year 1, a tourney team year 2 and then this year we obviously sucked. Not that disgraceful but need to be consistent. Yes we did not do our part for years but that was in the much better BE which was so good they didn't even need us to be better. Now they do. Hopefully we do our part. We have not won a tourney game in 16 years. Since Lou retired, we've underachieved in every single season, except for two that the hated Mike Jarvis coached. We are not pulling our weight, but feel free to call me a troll because I'm objective. The BE has always needed us to be good. Our president had other plans. The BE did damn fine with out us being good from 2001 to 2013. Not sure what league you were watching.Correct. The NEW BE does need SJU however I think we all agree. Villanova's win last night was great but it shows more about where Villanova is then where the BE is. In other words Villanova is the clear class of the league by a mile. UNC will always be good but think about this, you had Syracuse in the Final 4, Duke won the Tourney last year, Louisville was a missed FT away from going last year to the Final 4, ND is the only team to go to the Elite 8 the last 2 years and arguably the best team in the league the last 3 years was NONE of those teams-Virginia. Think about that, that is serious depth and strength. Nova would be just another really good team in the ACC whereas in the BE they are head and shoulders above everyone else. And as I said earlier SJU's goal is to get to that level consistently. Not go 10-8 or make 3 NCAA's in 4 years, get to NOVA's level. One thing that fails to get mentioned about this is the fact that the ACC has more schools, so they should have more great teams. But they also have more bad teams. If you look at average RPI they are only slightly better then us. And now we have the Championship team. (Nova was ranked first at one point this year, also. So they're certainly no fluke).Of course that is always going to be the case with oversized leagues. That was the case when the Big East was 16 teams and you had Rutgers, DePaul, S Florida etc. You're not going to have 16 Louisville's, Syracuse's, Duke's etc. That league would literally be impossible. The fact is the though the BE is essentially 1 team right now (Xavier had a good year this year as well). Villanova is far and away the best team. That is not the case with the ACC.
Quote from: fordham96 on April 05, 2016, 10:37:09 AMQuote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 10:30:02 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 10:17:05 AMQuote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 09:28:15 AMQuote from: nudginator59 on April 05, 2016, 08:54:50 AMWhat has to happen now is that the rest of the conference needs to step up (especially SJU) or the BE may not be taken serious again. This is where Football helps covers up the deficiencies of the other conferences. Nova is only 1-2 in the BET, but I can see critics saying that they are the only "real" basketball program in the conference. It would help if somebody else becomes regular season champs as well, and of course more teams advancing farther.The BE would be fine if St.John's and Depaul towed the line. Both have been a disgrace. You are so dramatic. The new big east has been in existence for 3 years. We were a bubble team year 1, a tourney team year 2 and then this year we obviously sucked. Not that disgraceful but need to be consistent. Yes we did not do our part for years but that was in the much better BE which was so good they didn't even need us to be better. Now they do. Hopefully we do our part. We have not won a tourney game in 16 years. Since Lou retired, we've underachieved in every single season, except for two that the hated Mike Jarvis coached. We are not pulling our weight, but feel free to call me a troll because I'm objective. The BE has always needed us to be good. Our president had other plans. The BE did damn fine with out us being good from 2001 to 2013. Not sure what league you were watching.Correct. The NEW BE does need SJU however I think we all agree. Villanova's win last night was great but it shows more about where Villanova is then where the BE is. In other words Villanova is the clear class of the league by a mile. UNC will always be good but think about this, you had Syracuse in the Final 4, Duke won the Tourney last year, Louisville was a missed FT away from going last year to the Final 4, ND is the only team to go to the Elite 8 the last 2 years and arguably the best team in the league the last 3 years was NONE of those teams-Virginia. Think about that, that is serious depth and strength. Nova would be just another really good team in the ACC whereas in the BE they are head and shoulders above everyone else. And as I said earlier SJU's goal is to get to that level consistently. Not go 10-8 or make 3 NCAA's in 4 years, get to NOVA's level. One thing that fails to get mentioned about this is the fact that the ACC has more schools, so they should have more great teams. But they also have more bad teams. If you look at average RPI they are only slightly better then us. And now we have the Championship team. (Nova was ranked first at one point this year, also. So they're certainly no fluke).
Quote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 10:30:02 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 10:17:05 AMQuote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 09:28:15 AMQuote from: nudginator59 on April 05, 2016, 08:54:50 AMWhat has to happen now is that the rest of the conference needs to step up (especially SJU) or the BE may not be taken serious again. This is where Football helps covers up the deficiencies of the other conferences. Nova is only 1-2 in the BET, but I can see critics saying that they are the only "real" basketball program in the conference. It would help if somebody else becomes regular season champs as well, and of course more teams advancing farther.The BE would be fine if St.John's and Depaul towed the line. Both have been a disgrace. You are so dramatic. The new big east has been in existence for 3 years. We were a bubble team year 1, a tourney team year 2 and then this year we obviously sucked. Not that disgraceful but need to be consistent. Yes we did not do our part for years but that was in the much better BE which was so good they didn't even need us to be better. Now they do. Hopefully we do our part. We have not won a tourney game in 16 years. Since Lou retired, we've underachieved in every single season, except for two that the hated Mike Jarvis coached. We are not pulling our weight, but feel free to call me a troll because I'm objective. The BE has always needed us to be good. Our president had other plans. The BE did damn fine with out us being good from 2001 to 2013. Not sure what league you were watching.Correct. The NEW BE does need SJU however I think we all agree. Villanova's win last night was great but it shows more about where Villanova is then where the BE is. In other words Villanova is the clear class of the league by a mile. UNC will always be good but think about this, you had Syracuse in the Final 4, Duke won the Tourney last year, Louisville was a missed FT away from going last year to the Final 4, ND is the only team to go to the Elite 8 the last 2 years and arguably the best team in the league the last 3 years was NONE of those teams-Virginia. Think about that, that is serious depth and strength. Nova would be just another really good team in the ACC whereas in the BE they are head and shoulders above everyone else. And as I said earlier SJU's goal is to get to that level consistently. Not go 10-8 or make 3 NCAA's in 4 years, get to NOVA's level.
Quote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 10:17:05 AMQuote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 09:28:15 AMQuote from: nudginator59 on April 05, 2016, 08:54:50 AMWhat has to happen now is that the rest of the conference needs to step up (especially SJU) or the BE may not be taken serious again. This is where Football helps covers up the deficiencies of the other conferences. Nova is only 1-2 in the BET, but I can see critics saying that they are the only "real" basketball program in the conference. It would help if somebody else becomes regular season champs as well, and of course more teams advancing farther.The BE would be fine if St.John's and Depaul towed the line. Both have been a disgrace. You are so dramatic. The new big east has been in existence for 3 years. We were a bubble team year 1, a tourney team year 2 and then this year we obviously sucked. Not that disgraceful but need to be consistent. Yes we did not do our part for years but that was in the much better BE which was so good they didn't even need us to be better. Now they do. Hopefully we do our part. We have not won a tourney game in 16 years. Since Lou retired, we've underachieved in every single season, except for two that the hated Mike Jarvis coached. We are not pulling our weight, but feel free to call me a troll because I'm objective. The BE has always needed us to be good. Our president had other plans. The BE did damn fine with out us being good from 2001 to 2013. Not sure what league you were watching.
Quote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 09:28:15 AMQuote from: nudginator59 on April 05, 2016, 08:54:50 AMWhat has to happen now is that the rest of the conference needs to step up (especially SJU) or the BE may not be taken serious again. This is where Football helps covers up the deficiencies of the other conferences. Nova is only 1-2 in the BET, but I can see critics saying that they are the only "real" basketball program in the conference. It would help if somebody else becomes regular season champs as well, and of course more teams advancing farther.The BE would be fine if St.John's and Depaul towed the line. Both have been a disgrace. You are so dramatic. The new big east has been in existence for 3 years. We were a bubble team year 1, a tourney team year 2 and then this year we obviously sucked. Not that disgraceful but need to be consistent. Yes we did not do our part for years but that was in the much better BE which was so good they didn't even need us to be better. Now they do. Hopefully we do our part. We have not won a tourney game in 16 years. Since Lou retired, we've underachieved in every single season, except for two that the hated Mike Jarvis coached. We are not pulling our weight, but feel free to call me a troll because I'm objective. The BE has always needed us to be good. Our president had other plans.
Quote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 09:28:15 AMQuote from: nudginator59 on April 05, 2016, 08:54:50 AMWhat has to happen now is that the rest of the conference needs to step up (especially SJU) or the BE may not be taken serious again. This is where Football helps covers up the deficiencies of the other conferences. Nova is only 1-2 in the BET, but I can see critics saying that they are the only "real" basketball program in the conference. It would help if somebody else becomes regular season champs as well, and of course more teams advancing farther.The BE would be fine if St.John's and Depaul towed the line. Both have been a disgrace. You are so dramatic. The new big east has been in existence for 3 years. We were a bubble team year 1, a tourney team year 2 and then this year we obviously sucked. Not that disgraceful but need to be consistent. Yes we did not do our part for years but that was in the much better BE which was so good they didn't even need us to be better. Now they do. Hopefully we do our part.
Quote from: nudginator59 on April 05, 2016, 08:54:50 AMWhat has to happen now is that the rest of the conference needs to step up (especially SJU) or the BE may not be taken serious again. This is where Football helps covers up the deficiencies of the other conferences. Nova is only 1-2 in the BET, but I can see critics saying that they are the only "real" basketball program in the conference. It would help if somebody else becomes regular season champs as well, and of course more teams advancing farther.The BE would be fine if St.John's and Depaul towed the line. Both have been a disgrace.
What has to happen now is that the rest of the conference needs to step up (especially SJU) or the BE may not be taken serious again. This is where Football helps covers up the deficiencies of the other conferences. Nova is only 1-2 in the BET, but I can see critics saying that they are the only "real" basketball program in the conference. It would help if somebody else becomes regular season champs as well, and of course more teams advancing farther.
Don't get me wrong, I love the fact we have history, but given where the program is currently at and needs to get to, it's irrelevant to anyone but us fans. For everyone else, a storied program is only interesting if it's winning.
SJU NIT records, 5 championships, 15 semifinals....both records
Quote from: cjfish on April 05, 2016, 08:17:06 PMSJU NIT records, 5 championships, 15 semifinals....both records I'm talking about in the 40 s when an NIT championship was the national championship, before the NCAA tourney got hot.
Quote from: WillieG on April 05, 2016, 04:29:02 PMQuote from: fordham96 on April 05, 2016, 03:52:57 PMQuote from: WillieG on April 05, 2016, 03:43:47 PMQuote from: fordham96 on April 05, 2016, 10:37:09 AMQuote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 10:30:02 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 10:17:05 AMQuote from: Tha Kid on April 05, 2016, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: Poison on April 05, 2016, 09:28:15 AMQuote from: nudginator59 on April 05, 2016, 08:54:50 AMWhat has to happen now is that the rest of the conference needs to step up (especially SJU) or the BE may not be taken serious again. This is where Football helps covers up the deficiencies of the other conferences. Nova is only 1-2 in the BET, but I can see critics saying that they are the only "real" basketball program in the conference. It would help if somebody else becomes regular season champs as well, and of course more teams advancing farther.The BE would be fine if St.John's and Depaul towed the line. Both have been a disgrace. You are so dramatic. The new big east has been in existence for 3 years. We were a bubble team year 1, a tourney team year 2 and then this year we obviously sucked. Not that disgraceful but need to be consistent. Yes we did not do our part for years but that was in the much better BE which was so good they didn't even need us to be better. Now they do. Hopefully we do our part. We have not won a tourney game in 16 years. Since Lou retired, we've underachieved in every single season, except for two that the hated Mike Jarvis coached. We are not pulling our weight, but feel free to call me a troll because I'm objective. The BE has always needed us to be good. Our president had other plans. The BE did damn fine with out us being good from 2001 to 2013. Not sure what league you were watching.Correct. The NEW BE does need SJU however I think we all agree. Villanova's win last night was great but it shows more about where Villanova is then where the BE is. In other words Villanova is the clear class of the league by a mile. UNC will always be good but think about this, you had Syracuse in the Final 4, Duke won the Tourney last year, Louisville was a missed FT away from going last year to the Final 4, ND is the only team to go to the Elite 8 the last 2 years and arguably the best team in the league the last 3 years was NONE of those teams-Virginia. Think about that, that is serious depth and strength. Nova would be just another really good team in the ACC whereas in the BE they are head and shoulders above everyone else. And as I said earlier SJU's goal is to get to that level consistently. Not go 10-8 or make 3 NCAA's in 4 years, get to NOVA's level. One thing that fails to get mentioned about this is the fact that the ACC has more schools, so they should have more great teams. But they also have more bad teams. If you look at average RPI they are only slightly better then us. And now we have the Championship team. (Nova was ranked first at one point this year, also. So they're certainly no fluke).Of course that is always going to be the case with oversized leagues. That was the case when the Big East was 16 teams and you had Rutgers, DePaul, S Florida etc. You're not going to have 16 Louisville's, Syracuse's, Duke's etc. That league would literally be impossible. The fact is the though the BE is essentially 1 team right now (Xavier had a good year this year as well). Villanova is far and away the best team. That is not the case with the ACC.I just re-read your post. Can't believe it. Even you are drinking the ESPN Kool Aid. Why don't you call the SEC a one team league. Why don't you go pick on them for a while. Look at their average numbers. Can't believe it. We got six teams in last year. In the last three years, we have gotten fifteen berths out of a possible 30. It's a great league, and there's no way around that. The top four out of 32, every year the last three years.What? Seriously I have no idea what you are talking about. Thd SEC is an established conference for decades that has top powers that currently are in a transition. That is not the BE.Please stop you clearly don't get what I am saying.
Has the top five pick prospect Richardson apply from the draft.I have not heard anything about him if he was considered a top five prospect he should have declared for the draft by now