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St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: paultzman on May 31, 2015, 09:18:08 AM

Title: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: paultzman on May 31, 2015, 09:18:08 AM
Hearing we could possibly have ten kids or so on campus next week. Sid Wilson, Andre Rafus & I believe Nate Pierre Louis have already indicated they will be there. Exciting times! Kudos to staff for working on 16 & 17 classes so aggressively while they conclude 15 efforts.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: MCNPA on May 31, 2015, 09:27:56 AM
Big weekend for us.  Great to get the kids out and to get to know the staff.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on May 31, 2015, 12:15:44 PM
Wow, sweet summer time.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: bball purist on May 31, 2015, 12:27:27 PM
Hearing we could possibly have ten kids or so on campus next week. Sid Wilson, Andre Rafus & I believe Nate Pierre Louis have already indicated they will be there. Exciting times! Kudos to staff for working on 16 & 17 classes so aggressively while they conclude 15 efforts.
Beautiful. Get more in person interaction on campus to set up for AAU summer ball.  Looks like relationship building is one strong pillar of (what I believe will be apparent years from now) many this staff will build for its foundation.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: newsman13 on June 01, 2015, 07:34:59 AM
It would be great if some of the as yet to be named assistants show up...as well as some of our former illustrious players.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: paultzman on June 02, 2015, 04:54:38 PM
We won't be disappointed with this weekend.  List of kids should be made known very soon.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: paultzman on June 03, 2015, 09:18:16 PM
@GiveNGobball: Class of 2018 Sports U (NJ) players Jahvon Quinerly, Nazreon Reid & Louis King will all go on unofficial visits to St. John's this weekend.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: fordham96 on June 03, 2015, 09:24:14 PM
I heard the Jersey kids were coming a few days ago.  Looking like a monster weekend.  Also hearing a lot of local coaches will be on campus.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: paultzman on June 03, 2015, 09:28:54 PM
I heard the Jersey kids were coming a few days ago.  Looking like a monster weekend.  Also hearing a lot of local coaches will be on campus.

Complete list tomorrow. Great & smart effort by staff!
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: paultzman on June 04, 2015, 09:35:03 AM
http://zagsblog.com/articles/st-johns-hosting-2017s-and-18s-on-big-recruiting-weekend/
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: MCNPA on June 04, 2015, 09:57:54 AM
In addition to the fact that the kids are gonna be on campus, it is a great effort to get lots of local coaches on board.  This good faith outreach to local players and coaches is a fantastic tool to get people on board with SJU.  Low pressure situation for potential recruits as well.  Great job by the staff putting this together.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: paultzman on June 04, 2015, 10:45:50 AM
@NYPost_Brazille: Will be posting full list shortly, but #sjubb will have 15 visitors on Saturday. Mohammed Bamba, Trevon Duvall, Naz Reid, Shamorie Ponds ...

@NYPost_Brazille: Other visits of note include Jose Alvarado, Quade Green, Sidney Wilson, Nate Pierre-Louis. It's a very impressive list expected at #sjubb.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: SJUFAN on June 04, 2015, 11:20:49 AM
I would be interested to know what occurs during such visits where you have so many kids and coaches involved. If anyone has any insight, please share.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: paultzman on June 04, 2015, 12:06:21 PM
@NYPost_Brazille: St John's will host 15 prospects Saturday for a blockbuster day of visits http://t.co/rmWs1ITsTr #sjubb
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: wpc77 on June 04, 2015, 01:00:05 PM
I would be interested to know what occurs during such visits where you have so many kids and coaches involved. If anyone has any insight, please share.

You see large group of recruits visiting at once typically in football recruiting.  The event centers around a football game or a basketball game that they all attend usually, along with a group meeting with a academic adminstrator and then one on one metings with a academic assistant who describes the courseload.Kids then typically stay overnight with a current player in the dorm.

You usually don't see this many kids at once in basketball recruiting, and for SJU, there's not really many players on the current roster to host these kids (except for the new guys who just got to campus for summer session, it apepars, and I guess Chris O, Felix, Amar and Jones).  Also, no sporting events are on campus this weekend.  Should be interesting to hear how Mullins handles this
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on June 04, 2015, 01:12:09 PM
I would be interested to know what occurs during such visits where you have so many kids and coaches involved. If anyone has any insight, please share.

You see large group of recruits visiting at once typically in football recruiting.  The event centers around a football game or a basketball game that they all attend usually, along with a group meeting with a academic adminstrator and then one on one metings with a academic assistant who describes the courseload.Kids then typically stay overnight with a current player in the dorm.

You usually don't see this many kids at once in basketball recruiting, and for SJU, there's not really many players on the current roster to host these kids (except for the new guys who just got to campus for summer session, it apepars, and I guess Chris O, Felix, Amar and Jones).  Also, no sporting events are on campus this weekend.  Should be interesting to hear how Mullins handles this

They will be in officials so they won't be staying over and presumably won't need hosts. I'm interested as wel in what will take place.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: stjohnnie75 on June 04, 2015, 01:49:43 PM
I would be interested to know what occurs during such visits where you have so many kids and coaches involved. If anyone has any insight, please share.

You see large group of recruits visiting at once typically in football recruiting.  The event centers around a football game or a basketball game that they all attend usually, along with a group meeting with a academic adminstrator and then one on one metings with a academic assistant who describes the courseload.Kids then typically stay overnight with a current player in the dorm.

You usually don't see this many kids at once in basketball recruiting, and for SJU, there's not really many players on the current roster to host these kids (except for the new guys who just got to campus for summer session, it apepars, and I guess Chris O, Felix, Amar and Jones).  Also, no sporting events are on campus this weekend.  Should be interesting to hear how Mullins handles this

They will be in officials so they won't be staying over and presumably won't need hosts. I'm interested as wel in what will take place.

Usually a tour around campus. Have a few speakers to talk with them. Watch some individual drills, etc. Have the best looking girls you can find walk past the group.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: paultzman on June 06, 2015, 03:23:52 PM
RENS coach today;

@NYPost_Brazille: Andy Borman said #sjubb has formed relationships with everyone involved with Akins and Heron -- the kids, their families, AAU and HS coaches
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: paultzman on June 06, 2015, 07:26:29 PM
@AdamZagoria: Sounds like Chris Mullin and St. John's put on quite the impressive show today for 15 recruits and their coaches. Story later.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 06, 2015, 07:53:06 PM
@AdamZagoria: Sounds like Chris Mullin and St. John's put on quite the impressive show today for 15 recruits and their coaches. Story later.

Gotta think a lot of coaches aren't too happy Mullin is here
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: fordham96 on June 06, 2015, 08:20:59 PM
@AdamZagoria: Sounds like Chris Mullin and St. John's put on quite the impressive show today for 15 recruits and their coaches. Story later.

Gotta think a lot of coaches aren't too happy Mullin is here

Huh?  You mean fellow BE coaches?
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 06, 2015, 08:26:24 PM
@AdamZagoria: Sounds like Chris Mullin and St. John's put on quite the impressive show today for 15 recruits and their coaches. Story later.

Gotta think a lot of coaches aren't too happy Mullin is here

Huh?  You mean fellow BE coaches?

And others who have  plucked top local talent on a yearly basis without much competition
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: fordham96 on June 06, 2015, 08:40:01 PM
No that stuff is overrated.  In fact I think many BE coaches want to ultimately see SJU back at the top.  St. John's is important, very important for the future of the league.

Do you really think Duke wants to see UNC struggle, their rivalry with them and the fact they are both normally top 10 programs is what helps fuel each other in terms of striving for excellence.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: valgoth on June 06, 2015, 08:46:49 PM
Jimmy Boeheim, Jaime Dixon, Cal, Pitino made a killing out of new york. we should be able to stop the bleeding now for sure.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: stjohnnie75 on June 06, 2015, 08:53:56 PM
Jimmy Boeheim, Jaime Dixon, Cal, Pitino made a killing out of new york. we should be able to stop the bleeding now for sure.

Boeheim, Cal, Pition and Coach K will still get the kids they want out of NYC.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: Celtics11 on June 06, 2015, 08:58:58 PM
No that stuff is overrated.  In fact I think many BE coaches want to ultimately see SJU back at the top.  St. John's is important, very important for the future of the league.

Do you really think Duke wants to see UNC struggle, their rivalry with them and the fact they are both normally top 10 programs is what helps fuel each other in terms of striving for excellence.
If they wanted to see SJU back on top again than why didn't they just lose to us more often? :)
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: paultzman on June 06, 2015, 09:11:14 PM
@AdamZagoria: Chris Mullin, Staff Impress Flock of New York Recruits http://t.co/kGeDHkwXIf via @adamzagoria
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: WillieG on June 06, 2015, 09:28:13 PM
@AdamZagoria: Chris Mullin, Staff Impress Flock of New York Recruits http://t.co/kGeDHkwXIf via @adamzagoria
The first good vibe I've gotten since Jordan ruined the Lovett signing.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: wpc77 on June 06, 2015, 09:29:24 PM
It's not just the big fish. No way in hell Brey should have gotten a guy like McIlarney in the middle of the last decade, or Matt Ryan now, under SJU's noses. Those are vital 4-year players that are bedrocks of teams that can make NCAA runs. Mullin won't lose kids like that. Thank God
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: Celtics11 on June 06, 2015, 09:39:32 PM
It's not just the big fish. No way in hell Brey should have gotten a guy like McIlarney in the middle of the last decade, or Matt Ryan now, under SJU's noses. Those are vital 4-year players that are bedrocks of teams that can make NCAA runs. Mullin won't lose kids like that. Thank God
If a kid wants to go to Notre Dame he will go to Notre Dame doesn't matter who our coach is. But we will get more than our usual share of kids IMHO.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: desco80 on June 06, 2015, 09:48:45 PM
Calipari and Pitino will recruit nationally and grab the best of the best.
but I think baldis right, guys like Dixon and Huggins can't be pleased that Mullin is here.
Lavin was a very good recruiter, but he wanted the best player regardless of locale.  Mullin Slice and Matt A are aiming to own ny/nj.   
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 06, 2015, 09:50:07 PM
It's not just the big fish. No way in hell Brey should have gotten a guy like McIlarney in the middle of the last decade, or Matt Ryan now, under SJU's noses. Those are vital 4-year players that are bedrocks of teams that can make NCAA runs. Mullin won't lose kids like that. Thank God
If a kid wants to go to Notre Dame he will go to Notre Dame doesn't matter who our coach is. But we will get more than our usual share of kids IMHO.

Makes it that much easier when the local school shows minimal to no interest
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: fordham96 on June 06, 2015, 10:04:31 PM
It's not just the big fish. No way in hell Brey should have gotten a guy like McIlarney in the middle of the last decade, or Matt Ryan now, under SJU's noses. Those are vital 4-year players that are bedrocks of teams that can make NCAA runs. Mullin won't lose kids like that. Thank God

Getting the staff he has gotten and is getting (Pinckney) is HUGE along with Chris himself.  Make such a huge difference.  Gives SJU instant cred with all the kids in this area.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: wpc77 on June 06, 2015, 10:13:35 PM
It's not just the big fish. No way in hell Brey should have gotten a guy like McIlarney in the middle of the last decade, or Matt Ryan now, under SJU's noses. Those are vital 4-year players that are bedrocks of teams that can make NCAA runs. Mullin won't lose kids like that. Thank God

Getting the staff he has gotten and is getting (Pinckney) is HUGE along with Chris himself.  Make such a huge difference.  Gives SJU instant cred with all the kids in this area.

Agree completely. There's been a void locally since Fran left, despite best efforts (Norm) and empty words (Lav) to the contrary
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: fordham96 on June 06, 2015, 10:26:46 PM
It's not just the big fish. No way in hell Brey should have gotten a guy like McIlarney in the middle of the last decade, or Matt Ryan now, under SJU's noses. Those are vital 4-year players that are bedrocks of teams that can make NCAA runs. Mullin won't lose kids like that. Thank God

Getting the staff he has gotten and is getting (Pinckney) is HUGE along with Chris himself.  Make such a huge difference.  Gives SJU instant cred with all the kids in this area.

Agree completely. There's been a void locally since Fran left, despite best efforts (Norm) and empty words (Lav) to the contrary

Keep in mind if Lavin had been able to convince Rohrssen to leave Manhattan things might have turned out differently.  He did everything to convince him. Or gotten Book Richardson to come back east things could have been different.

In the end SJU got a NYC legend and that and a lot of jing got Slice to come home.
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: wpc77 on June 06, 2015, 10:40:45 PM
It's not just the big fish. No way in hell Brey should have gotten a guy like McIlarney in the middle of the last decade, or Matt Ryan now, under SJU's noses. Those are vital 4-year players that are bedrocks of teams that can make NCAA runs. Mullin won't lose kids like that. Thank God

Getting the staff he has gotten and is getting (Pinckney) is HUGE along with Chris himself.  Make such a huge difference.  Gives SJU instant cred with all the kids in this area.

Agree completely. There's been a void locally since Fran left, despite best efforts (Norm) and empty words (Lav) to the contrary

Keep in mind if Lavin had been able to convince Rohrssen to leave Manhattan things might have turned out differently.  He did everything to convince him. Or gotten Book Richardson to come back east things could have been different.

In the end SJU got a NYC legend and that and a lot of jing got Slice to come home.

None of which was possible until father Harrington was out on his ass. School is fully committed again, 2 decades later. Great that Louie and Kaiser are still around to see it
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: bball purist on June 07, 2015, 01:03:28 AM
It's not just the big fish. No way in hell Brey should have gotten a guy like McIlarney in the middle of the last decade, or Matt Ryan now, under SJU's noses. Those are vital 4-year players that are bedrocks of teams that can make NCAA runs. Mullin won't lose kids like that. Thank God
If a kid wants to go to Notre Dame he will go to Notre Dame doesn't matter who our coach is. But we will get more than our usual share of kids IMHO.

Makes it that much easier when the local school shows minimal to no interest
Probably so. It would have been nice to have been on Matt from the beginning, but he was chossing between UNC and ND after all.  Brey promised him big minutes and Roy wouldn't
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: desco80 on June 08, 2015, 11:21:51 AM
It's not just the big fish. No way in hell Brey should have gotten a guy like McIlarney in the middle of the last decade, or Matt Ryan now, under SJU's noses. Those are vital 4-year players that are bedrocks of teams that can make NCAA runs. Mullin won't lose kids like that. Thank God

Getting the staff he has gotten and is getting (Pinckney) is HUGE along with Chris himself.  Make such a huge difference.  Gives SJU instant cred with all the kids in this area.

Agree completely. There's been a void locally since Fran left, despite best efforts (Norm) and empty words (Lav) to the contrary

Keep in mind if Lavin had been able to convince Rohrssen to leave Manhattan things might have turned out differently.  He did everything to convince him. Or gotten Book Richardson to come back east things could have been different.

In the end SJU got a NYC legend and that and a lot of jing got Slice to come home.

None of which was possible until father Harrington was out on his ass. School is fully committed again, 2 decades later. Great that Louie and Kaiser are still around to see it

I don't think that's completely accurate.   Lavin was given a big budget for assistants when he got here.   Slice just wasn't ready to make the move.
But the school was giving the bball program the resources to bring him here. 
Title: Re: June 6 Unofficial Recruiting Visits
Post by: derk on June 08, 2015, 11:50:41 AM
It's not just the big fish. No way in hell Brey should have gotten a guy like McIlarney in the middle of the last decade, or Matt Ryan now, under SJU's noses. Those are vital 4-year players that are bedrocks of teams that can make NCAA runs. Mullin won't lose kids like that. Thank God

Getting the staff he has gotten and is getting (Pinckney) is HUGE along with Chris himself.  Make such a huge difference.  Gives SJU instant cred with all the kids in this area.

Agree completely. There's been a void locally since Fran left, despite best efforts (Norm) and empty words (Lav) to the contrary

Keep in mind if Lavin had been able to convince Rohrssen to leave Manhattan things might have turned out differently.  He did everything to convince him. Or gotten Book Richardson to come back east things could have been different.

In the end SJU got a NYC legend and that and a lot of jing got Slice to come home.

None of which was possible until father Harrington was out on his ass. School is fully committed again, 2 decades later. Great that Louie and Kaiser are still around to see it

I don't think that's completely accurate.   Lavin was given a big budget for assistants when he got here.   Slice just wasn't ready to make the move.
But the school was giving the bball program the resources to bring him here. 

Also Slice has better feelings towards Mullin then he did towards Lavin.