6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: TONYD3 on November 16, 2017, 09:48:10 PM
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They are division 2. Does it count for record? For at large selection?
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Someone at the game tonight told me that it does count towards the record, but playing a division 2 opponent doesn't hurt your RPI, while playing a very bad division 1 team does. Not sure how true that is, but should be 4-0 headed to Orlando.
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Someone at the game tonight told me that it does count towards the record, but playing a division 2 opponent doesn't hurt your RPI, while playing a very bad division 1 team does. Not sure how true that is, but should be 4-0 headed to Orlando.
Thanks . Great news
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This is just a game to keep us warmed up til Oregon State... not sure how it helps us but it is what it is. Just stay healthy and come ready for Oregon State.
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hope Yakwe gets decent minutes to help him try to turn it around ... with tourney coming with 3 games in 4 days, we'll need him to fill in minutes
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I don’t think a win counts for NCAA towny consideration. Another opportunity to work on weaknesses and give Trimble some time on the court. I think Mullin will giveYakwe some nice minutes. We need him to contribute.
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hope Yakwe gets decent minutes to help him try to turn it around ... with tourney coming with 3 games in 4 days, we'll need him to fill in minutes
That is a good point. Rest lovett and ponds plenty also
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The Molloy game doesn't count towards RPI
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We played Franklin Pierce in season Lavins final year and it counted towards the record. I believe the selection committee just doesn't take it as a serious win.
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We played Franklin Pierce in season Lavins final year and it counted towards the record. I believe the selection committee just doesn't take it as a serious win.
If things haven't changed over the years it counts on our overall record but the committee disregards it. In other words we can finish say 20-12 but the committee will consider us 19-12.
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We played Franklin Pierce in season Lavins final year and it counted towards the record. I believe the selection committee just doesn't take it as a serious win.
If things haven't changed over the years it counts on our overall record but the committee disregards it. In other words we can finish say 20-12 but the committee will consider us 19-12.
The total number of wins doesn't make a whole lot of difference on the resume anyway. Otherwise 20 win high majors wouldn't be the ones at larges over 25 win mid majors
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It's an exhibition game. Doesn't count.
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It's an exhibition game. Doesn't count.
Teams get to play a total of two combined exhibition or scrimmages. We already played an exhibition game and we scrimmaged Hofstra earlier so this is not an exhibition game. Nice try carmine perhaps you can come up with a nickname for this game that counts but doesn't count.
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It's an exhibition game. Doesn't count.
Teams get to play a total of two combined exhibition or scrimmages. We already played an exhibition game and we scrimmaged Hofstra earlier so this is not an exhibition game. Nice try carmine perhaps you can come up with a nickname for this game that counts but doesn't count.
Exhibitions.
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This game is senseless. Absolutely no reason play it at all. Are we playing them so that we can get ready for a season of D2 basketball?
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It's an exhibition game. Doesn't count.
Tonight is NOT an exhibition game...
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Strange game but hopefully we can get a lot of burn for trimlble and Yakwe. There will be games where we will need those two to play well to win.
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It's an exhibition game. Doesn't count.
Tonight is NOT an exhibition game...
Friendly?
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It's an exhibition game. Doesn't count.
Tonight is NOT an exhibition game...
Friendly?
A favor?
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It's an exhibition game. Doesn't count.
Tonight is NOT an exhibition game...
Friendly?
A favor?
Yeah we are doing them a favor by paying them to come to CA for a game that is not considered by the tournament selection committee.
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It's an exhibition game. Doesn't count.
Tonight is NOT an exhibition game...
I'll be there. My nephew is playing at the half.
Molloy coach is a great Rockaway guy
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It's an exhibition game. Doesn't count.
Tonight is NOT an exhibition game...
I'll be there. My nephew is playing at the half.
Molloy coach is a great Rockaway guy
Iona playing at the half?
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It's an exhibition game. Doesn't count.
Tonight is NOT an exhibition game...
I'll be there. My nephew is playing at the half.
Molloy coach is a great Rockaway guy
Iona playing at the half?
The 8 year olds at halftime have far better defensive fundamentals than Iona
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Happy for an opportunity to work on some weaknesses here and there. I'd like to see some low post offense.
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Is the game on tv or streamed anywhere?
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Sloppy start. Little energy.
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Mullin needs to call a timeout, and send LoVett and Ponds to the bench. They think they're auditioning for the 'Trotters.
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Not a fan of that behind the back crap especially when there’s no need for it.
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Not a fan of that behind the back crap especially when there’s no need for it.
Concur. They look like garbage out there. Most of Ponds' and LoVett's passes are being deflected, whether we end up with it or not. Play with a killer instinct, regardless of the opposition.
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I think they’re just having fun out there. Definitely not taking it very seriously.
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I think they’re just having fun out there. Definitely not taking it very seriously.
I know that's what they're doing, but I'm not fond of the BS'in, particularly so early in the game. You kill a gnat with a sledgehammer.
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I think they’re just having fun out there. Definitely not taking it very seriously.
What’s the worst that could happen?
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Year 4 and Alibegovic still doesn’t bother to box out.
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I think they’re just having fun out there. Definitely not taking it very seriously.
What’s the worst that could happen?
Nothing, it’s an exhibition. And we aren’t gonna lose regardless...
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I think they’re just having fun out there. Definitely not taking it very seriously.
What’s the worst that could happen?
Now, you can sense Molloy is gaining confidence.
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These kids watch too much tv (NBA). I see often at high school games. They're making routine layups difficult by trying to be too fancy. That should've been an easy two for Simon.
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Dumb alley oop attempt by Ponds. He could've gotten Owens injured.
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Can we at least open up a lead before we start trying to be unnecessarily flashy?
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Can we at least open up a lead before we start trying to be unnecessarily flashy?
+1
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Ugly all around.
Need to tighten up ASAP and at least go into halftime with a lead.
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Settling for jumpers and continue clanking. Take the ball inside!
Stop with the difficult ally oop passes!
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They can't even play a zone. That slow guard waltz right between Ponds and LoVett.
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Very sloppy. Owens plays great D, but has a poor offensive game.
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Ugly game. The rest of this week will be a good early season litmus test.
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They just screwed around for 20 minutes.
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Mullin needs to call a timeout, and send LoVett and Ponds to the bench. They think they're auditioning for the 'Trotters.
Mullin doesn’t call timeouts
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This is absolutely disgraceful
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Where's LoVett going?
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Defense look much better this half.
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They were just messing around with this team. They were never a threat.
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Take out about 3 of the starters.
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Clark fouls too much.
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Take out about 3 of the starters.
Agree, get Ali b, Trimble etc in...
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Playing Amar with 2 other fowards is stupid. That’s what he did in 1st half. Amar is not a wing player. He needs to know that!
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Nice pass by Simon to Owens for the dunk.
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If Yakwe could catch the ball cleanly, then that's an easy deuce.
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Meaningless game, hard to get up for, but way too much schoolyard nonsense.
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Sloppy game. Molloy shows bad fundamentals for a d-2 program...one-on-one and don't get back on defense at all. Hopefully this game doesn't hurt us going forward.
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Yakwe couldn't catch the flu, if you stuck him in a room with two-dozen flu patients.
Tennis balls, son.
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Yakwe couldn't catch the flu, if you stuck him in a room with two-dozen flu patients.
Tennis balls, son.
Well Josh Roberts a far cry from Yakwe... plays inside, bigger and with good hands. Played wideout in Alabama for the football team at 6’8” a year or two ago and can catch the ball!
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At least Lovett and Ponds get to sit the last ten.
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Good defense there by Simon. Trimble should've pump faked that Molloy defender.
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Pretty ugly game. I don't think it's great to play this low level of competition after the season starts.
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Pretty ugly game. I don't think it's great to play this low level of competition after the season starts.
It's not. If you do then you want it to be against smart teams with good fundamentals so it doesn't become this.
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This is absolutely disgraceful
Agree, they only won by 29, that's ridiculous. I was expecting at least3 0.
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Probably the last game I will ever go to aT that dump of a place.
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Actually, Mullin can turn this into an attention getter when they watch film tomorrow. Too much carelessness, especially after a big win over Nebraska.
If they were going into Oregon State too confident, this should knock them down a couple of pegs. Get the Nebraska win out of their heads and focus that they do have to work to be successful.
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Clark and Owens both with 4 rebounds. Great job outta them
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https://nypost.com/2017/11/20/st-johns-coasts-to-victory-in-ugliest-possible-fashion/
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poor 3 point shooting starting to be a trend, hope it doesn't continue
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Playing Amar with 2 other fowards is stupid. That’s what he did in 1st half. Amar is not a wing player. He needs to know that!
He thinks he’s a wing player. But I don’t understand having him play the 3 . We need banging and rebounds from him. W Bash and Simon and Trimble and Clark , he should never play the 3 . I think our best lineup is our starting lineup. Clark has to work on fouling less. If I’m not mistaken Ponds was the only starter to make a 3. As usual Simon and Ponds the leading rebounder. Really like Simon, knows his limitations. 11 boards something like 9 assists. Glad we got Yakwe and Trimble playing time But they didn’t impress. Amar wasn’t bad. Not much to take from the his game.
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This is absolutely disgraceful
Agree, they only won by 29, that's ridiculous. I was expecting at least3 0.
Big effin deal this Molloy team would lose by 30 to Archbishop Molloy. I would call it a glorified scrimmage or a high school game but there was nothing glorified about it. Best thing about this game is it will allow coaching staff to get their attention and hopefully give them the incentive to redeem themselves. This team and program hasn't accomplished squat not to play hard all the time and take every game seriously. Instead they sleepwalked and lallygagged their way through the game.
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Playing Amar with 2 other fowards is stupid. That’s what he did in 1st half. Amar is not a wing player. He needs to know that!
He thinks he’s a wing player. But I don’t understand having him play the 3 . We need banging and rebounds from him. W Bash and Simon and Trimble and Clark , he should never play the 3 . I think our best lineup is our starting lineup. Clark has to work on fouling less.
Clark is not good right now
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Playing Amar with 2 other fowards is stupid. That’s what he did in 1st half. Amar is not a wing player. He needs to know that!
He thinks he’s a wing player. But I don’t understand having him play the 3 . We need banging and rebounds from him. W Bash and Simon and Trimble and Clark , he should never play the 3 . I think our best lineup is our starting lineup. Clark has to work on fouling less.
Clark is not good right now
Who is the big man coach for this team?
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Playing Amar with 2 other fowards is stupid. That’s what he did in 1st half. Amar is not a wing player. He needs to know that!
He thinks he’s a wing player. But I don’t understand having him play the 3 . We need banging and rebounds from him. W Bash and Simon and Trimble and Clark , he should never play the 3 . I think our best lineup is our starting lineup. Clark has to work on fouling less.
Clark is not good right now
Who is the big man coach for this team?
Peter Dinklage.
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Playing Amar with 2 other fowards is stupid. That’s what he did in 1st half. Amar is not a wing player. He needs to know that!
He thinks he’s a wing player. But I don’t understand having him play the 3 . We need banging and rebounds from him. W Bash and Simon and Trimble and Clark , he should never play the 3 . I think our best lineup is our starting lineup. Clark has to work on fouling less.
Clark is not good right now
Who is the big man coach for this team?
Is he supposed to be a big?
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Playing Amar with 2 other fowards is stupid. That’s what he did in 1st half. Amar is not a wing player. He needs to know that!
He thinks he’s a wing player. But I don’t understand having him play the 3 . We need banging and rebounds from him. W Bash and Simon and Trimble and Clark , he should never play the 3 . I think our best lineup is our starting lineup. Clark has to work on fouling less.
Clark is not good right now
Who is the big man coach for this team?
Is he supposed to be a big?
I suppose so, by process of elimination. Wither Zendon? I know he was a knucklehead , but still...
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Post game quotes
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/112017aac.html
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Hopefully good to get the stinker out of the way in this game.
Best part of the game was tracking Simon to see if he could get the triple double in the final minutes before Mullin would remove him.
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poor 3 point shooting starting to be a trend, hope it doesn't continue
We are 4-0 and haven’t shot well, but our defense and rebounding have been a ton better. Frankly I’m more worried about that. We keep improving our defense and rebounding, it’s whwre our bread is at... we have plenty offense and our shooting will only get better. Change our game style from the defense/rebounding on up and I’m fine with it. We have tons of scorers, even if we aren’t shooting like we should.
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Playing Amar with 2 other fowards is stupid. That’s what he did in 1st half. Amar is not a wing player. He needs to know that!
He thinks he’s a wing player. But I don’t understand having him play the 3 . We need banging and rebounds from him. W Bash and Simon and Trimble and Clark , he should never play the 3 . I think our best lineup is our starting lineup. Clark has to work on fouling less.
Clark is not good right now
Clark isn’t good yet, but he’s above average. What bothers me is that he thinks he’s a guard, and that’s absolutely not what the team needs from him. It’s been 4 games, and if he’s our weakest starting player, that’s not so bad.
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Playing Amar with 2 other fowards is stupid. That’s what he did in 1st half. Amar is not a wing player. He needs to know that!
He thinks he’s a wing player. But I don’t understand having him play the 3 . We need banging and rebounds from him. W Bash and Simon and Trimble and Clark , he should never play the 3 . I think our best lineup is our starting lineup. Clark has to work on fouling less.
Clark is not good right now
Clark isn’t good yet, but he’s above average. What bothers me is that he thinks he’s a guard, and that’s absolutely not what the team needs from him. It’s been 4 games, and if he’s our weakest starting player, that’s not so bad.
In 23 minutes he's getting 9 points 4 rbs and shooting 57% from the floor. Sure he needs to rebound a little more but on this team his role is to box out and allow Simon and ponds to swoop in. My only concern is the fouls.
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Clark is very good, but still learning his role. He had one awesome move yesterday where he posted his man, turned and took s short range jumper. He's an efficient player, but needs to play more of a PF role. He can surely take open treys, because he's a good shooter, but he's gotta be eating people alive inside like Ricardo Gathers style. He can do it, especially with his skill set. The fouls will improve over time methinks. He's gotta just move his feet more on defense and not reach.
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You kill a gnat with a sledgehammer.
You'd be hard pressed to find a stupider way to try and kill a gnat than with a sledgehammer.
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You kill a gnat with a sledgehammer.
You'd be hard pressed to find a stupider way to try and kill a gnat than with a sledgehammer.
Foady- who is in your profile picture?
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Before going off the deep end think of the following 6 words, "Thomas Aquinas, Incarnate Word, Delaware State". This is not the last two years when team would not respond to this level of opponent. They obviously got the message at half time with a 22-2 run to open 2nd half; something we did not see in last 2 years.
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Playing Amar with 2 other fowards is stupid. That’s what he did in 1st half. Amar is not a wing player. He needs to know that!
He thinks he’s a wing player. But I don’t understand having him play the 3 . We need banging and rebounds from him. W Bash and Simon and Trimble and Clark , he should never play the 3 . I think our best lineup is our starting lineup. Clark has to work on fouling less.
Clark is not good right now
Clark isn’t good yet, but he’s above average. What bothers me is that he thinks he’s a guard, and that’s absolutely not what the team needs from him. It’s been 4 games, and if he’s our weakest starting player, that’s not so bad.
In 23 minutes he's getting 9 points 4 rbs and shooting 57% from the floor. Sure he needs to rebound a little more but on this team his role is to box out and allow Simon and ponds to swoop in. My only concern is the fouls.
4 games but I am a little disappointed by his play so far. Especially on the boards. Funny he looked wider while at Michigan ST. Maybe food at ST John's is terrible to go along with lack of weight room? BTW I think he will be fine but did think he would have more of an immediate impact.
On other hand love Simon even if he can't shoot.
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Is anyone else concerned that after 4 games Amar is clearly better than Yakwe? Has anyone confirmed that Yakwe is not a zombie version of himself? Because if he is it should probably be dealt with sooner rather than later.
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Is anyone else concerned that after 4 games Amar is clearly better than Yakwe? Has anyone confirmed that Yakwe is not a zombie version of himself? Because if he is it should probably be dealt with sooner rather than later.
Is he? Has looked pretty unimpressive to me. Yakwe has shown some energy here and there.
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Is anyone else concerned that after 4 games Amar is clearly better than Yakwe? Has anyone confirmed that Yakwe is not a zombie version of himself? Because if he is it should probably be dealt with sooner rather than later.
Is he? Has looked pretty unimpressive to me. Yakwe has shown some energy here and there.
Was not meant as a compliment to Amar
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I like Clark.
He's the team's vocal leader. His arms are jacked. The addition of he and Simon are the most logical reasons for the teams improved defensive effort.
He's a big piece of our puzzle moving forward.
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You kill a gnat with a sledgehammer.
You'd be hard pressed to find a stupider way to try and kill a gnat than with a sledgehammer.
Foady- who is in your profile picture?
Patricia Krenwinkle
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Before going off the deep end think of the following 6 words, "Thomas Aquinas, Incarnate Word, Delaware State". This is not the last two years when team would not respond to this level of opponent. They obviously got the message at half time with a 22-2 run to open 2nd half; something we did not see in last 2 years.
Think the increase in talent level has more to do with it. Really don't understand comparing this team to two years ago when we were a complete joke. Like saying my four year old is toilet trained where two years ago he would have shit in his pants.
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Patricia Krenwinkle...Yikes!!!
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If anyone wants to know f this hame counts. Just looked up our RPI around 28. Has us w a 3-0 record not 4-0.
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If anyone wants to know f this hame counts. Just looked up our RPI around 28. Has us w a 3-0 record not 4-0.
I mean we've been over this. It counts for stats and technical record but not for the selection committee.