6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Comet on September 21, 2013, 04:42:53 PM
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Do any of the current players have friends / past teammates that we are recruiting ?
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Cheick Diallo and Felix Balamou were former teammates and friends.
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It seems like all of our good players brought a friend. Most of there friends kind of stink though
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It seems like all of our good players brought a friend. Most of there friends kind of stink though
Hooper hasn't played a game yet. You don't think Felix showed potential as a freshmen?
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I don't think Felix can shoot or score at this level, that's not a good for a shooting guard. Never saw max play, all I know is he played at a big hs. He got plenty of exposure and no one wanted him. He was at Harvard and didn't play. I will happily eat my words if both make an impact.
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While I agree that Felix is not a great shooter, I do think he can score on this level. Both in transition and on offensive put backs. Not sure yet if he can create offense for himself. Max is a shooter, period! He is gonna be one of the biggest "surprises" in the BE this year.
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Felix is a dynamic player. He makes things happen out there. Rebounds, hounding on defense, always around the ball, intangibles. I like what I've seen.
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Felix is a dynamic player. He makes things happen out there. Rebounds, hounding on defense, always around the ball, intangibles. I like what I've seen.
I personally would like to see him redshirt this year. It spreads roster out a bit and gives him more opportunity long term.
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It seems like all of our good players brought a friend. Most of there friends kind of stink though
Except for that guy who nailed 10 threes in one game. He doesn't stink.
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Felix is a dynamic player. He makes things happen out there. Rebounds, hounding on defense, always around the ball, intangibles. I like what I've seen.
I personally would like to see him redshirt this year. It spreads roster out a bit and gives him more opportunity long term.
It's probably a good idea. Jones too, however, I hope Lavin waits until 2/3 games into the season provided its allowed. We sure could have used Gift last year.
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I think its allowed. As long as they don't play in any games, you can wait as far into the season as you want to red shirt a player I believe.
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The guy who hit 10 threes in a game hasnt even played a real game yet. When/if he does it in a big east game I will acknowledge it.
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The guy who hit 10 threes in a game hasnt even played a real game yet. When/if he does it in a big east game I will acknowledge it.
Because the Butler kids will play him tougher than the European pros?
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Felix is a dynamic player. He makes things happen out there. Rebounds, hounding on defense, always around the ball, intangibles. I like what I've seen.
I personally would like to see him redshirt this year. It spreads roster out a bit and gives him more opportunity long term.
I think it would be great for him and the team, provided he is ok with it and that it doesn't make him think about transferring. Really really don't want to miss seeing this kid as an upperclassmen.
And QC I agree with everything you said about him.
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I don't think Felix can shoot or score at this level, that's not a good for a shooting guard. Never saw max play, all I know is he played at a big hs. He got plenty of exposure and no one wanted him. He was at Harvard and didn't play. I will happily eat my words if both make an impact.
You are way off on Felix. His upside is absurd. He played with amazing pace for a freshman. He was almost always under control and he showed me that he can be a menace scoring around the baseline. At worst, he will evolve into a shutdown defender and all-world rebounder out of the 2/3 spots. He will be able to shutdown three positions and guard four.
I watched quite a few of his OSNA games and his shot--while certainly not pretty--was effective. He also got into his shot without any hesitation and was looked at as a scorer. I would not be shocked if he started draining them the next two years. The problem is that he is surrounded by so much talent and experience right now. He seems like a great redshirt option to me.
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I don't think Felix can shoot or score at this level, that's not a good for a shooting guard. Never saw max play, all I know is he played at a big hs. He got plenty of exposure and no one wanted him. He was at Harvard and didn't play. I will happily eat my words if both make an impact.
You are way off on Felix. His upside is absurd. He played with amazing pace for a freshman. He was almost always under control and he showed me that he can be a menace scoring around the baseline. At worst, he will evolve into a shutdown defender and all-world rebounder out of the 2/3 spots. He will be able to shutdown three positions and guard four.
I watched quite a few of his OSNA games and his shot--while certainly not pretty--was effective. He also got into his shot without any hesitation and was looked at as a scorer. I would not be shocked if he started draining them the next two years. The problem is that he is surrounded by so much talent and experience right now. He seems like a great redshirt option to me.
Spot on Marillac
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I don't think Felix can shoot or score at this level, that's not a good for a shooting guard. Never saw max play, all I know is he played at a big hs. He got plenty of exposure and no one wanted him. He was at Harvard and didn't play. I will happily eat my words if both make an impact.
You are way off on Felix. His upside is absurd. He played with amazing pace for a freshman. He was almost always under control and he showed me that he can be a menace scoring around the baseline. At worst, he will evolve into a shutdown defender and all-world rebounder out of the 2/3 spots. He will be able to shutdown three positions and guard four.
I watched quite a few of his OSNA games and his shot--while certainly not pretty--was effective. He also got into his shot without any hesitation and was looked at as a scorer. I would not be shocked if he started draining them the next two years. The problem is that he is surrounded by so much talent and experience right now. He seems like a great redshirt option to me.
Yes...I think once the game slows down for him his offense will improve significantly
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I don't think Felix can shoot or score at this level, that's not a good for a shooting guard. Never saw max play, all I know is he played at a big hs. He got plenty of exposure and no one wanted him. He was at Harvard and didn't play. I will happily eat my words if both make an impact.
You are way off on Felix. His upside is absurd. He played with amazing pace for a freshman. He was almost always under control and he showed me that he can be a menace scoring around the baseline. At worst, he will evolve into a shutdown defender and all-world rebounder out of the 2/3 spots. He will be able to shutdown three positions and guard four.
I watched quite a few of his OSNA games and his shot--while certainly not pretty--was effective. He also got into his shot without any hesitation and was looked at as a scorer. I would not be shocked if he started draining them the next two years. The problem is that he is surrounded by so much talent and experience right now. He seems like a great redshirt option to me.
Retract my comments last year for taking you to task for stating that Amir was going to be an incredible player for us. Even incredible players are not necessarily all-world. (SMILEY FACE)
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Hope u guys are right
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Felix can be a good scorer. He's physical, athletic, and he does have a nice tough around the basket. He is raw, but this is the kind of kid who after a couple of years is ready to start doing some damage. Jones showed that kind of upside, too. They are talented, but raw. I hope they both star here as seniors. I miss senior leaders. We used to have them all the time.
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not trying to be a pain in the ass, just dont see how both felix and max get minutes next year. harrison is going to play 30 plus, pointer and jordan will play starters minutes. Phil is going to play atleast 20.
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not trying to be a pain in the ass, just dont see how both felix and max get minutes next year. harrison is going to play 30 plus, pointer and jordan will play starters minutes. Phil is going to play atleast 20.
Because unless you're given a good reason not to, you should zone St.John's. Guard us like SU does, and it's over. Hooper is a weapon for that defense, and w'ere going to see it until we prove that we can beat it. I love Pointer, and I like Branch, and even Greene a little, but against the zone, you need shooters, and he's a shooter.
You're right, you never know. He hasn't played in a REAL game yet, but seriously, isn't now the time to really get your hopes up? It's not like there's any other team to follow in NY.
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It's not like there's any other team to follow in NY.
When was the last time St Johns hoops was the bright spot in the NY sports scene?
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It's not like there's any other team to follow in NY.
When was the last time St Johns hoops was the bright spot in the NY sports scene?
I'd say Lavin's first year. When SJU is good people recognize it. I had people who never really follow college hoops that closely asking my questions knowing I went to SJU. Granted I was a baby during the mid 80's heyday and I'm sure it was magnified even more but our last trip to the tournament we were definitely getting interest around town.
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It's not like there's any other team to follow in NY.
When was the last time St Johns hoops was the bright spot in the NY sports scene?
I'd say Lavin's first year. When SJU is good people recognize it. I had people who never really follow college hoops that closely asking my questions knowing I went to SJU. Granted I was a baby during the mid 80's heyday and I'm sure it was magnified even more but our last trip to the tournament we were definitely getting interest around town.
You are right. I had buddies who wanted to go to the Duke and Pitt games that I couldn't beg to come with me to a game a year before.
But didn't the Knicks trade for Melo that year? And the Jets were in the afc championship.
This year the football teams look like crap, I think the Knicks will be in the tank, the nets will be good till one of the new guys gets hurt (which could be at any moment), and I dont follow hockey enough to know if any of those teams will make noise... but I could see this being a winter where st johns is the best game in town.
I agree with you though, there was buzz and talk around town Lavin's first season.
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It's not like there's any other team to follow in NY.
When was the last time St Johns hoops was the bright spot in the NY sports scene?
When Prince Akeem was at the Garden yelling "In the Face!! In the Face!!"
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NY most popular teams:
1. Giants
2. Yankees
3. Knicks
4. Jets
5. Rangers
6. Mets
7. Islanders
8. Devils
9. Liberty
10. SJU
Nice run in tourney probably gets us to 7
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Where is Canada's team?
NY most popular teams:
1. Giants
2. Yankees
3. Knicks
4. Jets
5. Rangers
6. Mets
7. Islanders
8. Devils
9. Liberty
10. SJU
Nice run in tourney probably gets us to 7
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Did not include them or the Bills but if you wanted to go by actual fans that live in NYC of the teams, the following would also be ahead of the Johnnies:
Cuse
Duke
Gtown
Villanova
Dallas Cowboys
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I didn't ask who had the most fans. The Giants and Mets have millions of fans in the tri-state, but nobody is going to be talking about them this winter. And I think the Knicks could be in the same boat.
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NY most popular teams:
1. Giants
2. Yankees
3. Knicks
4. Jets
5. Rangers
6. Mets
7. Islanders
8. Devils
9. Liberty
10. SJU
Nice run in tourney probably gets us to 7
I love the Giants, but no team is the Yankees. This is horrible season for them and they almost made the playoffs.
They haven't had a losing season in over 20 years.
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Boo, did you erase that post because you realized that there is no way the Knicks are bigger than the Yankees?
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Awww, Boo I was about to quote you and say Amen (regarding the amount of Yankee front-runners)
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I have a test that I give to alleged Yankee fans where I ask them to name 7 active members of the team. Boy was that fun early this year with the makeshift lineup and no superstars. Only a few passed.
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I have a test that I give to alleged Yankee fans where I ask them to name 7 active members of the team. Boy was that fun early this year with the makeshift lineup and no superstars. Only a few passed.
Doesn't that show how big the team is when they can have fans out there who don't even know who the players are? And that is baseball in general, plenty of people who where hats of a MLB team can't name their third starter in the rotation or their 7 8 9 hitters. It's not a big name sport.
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Rangers, Knicks, Nets, Giants, Jets will all be talked about more than STJ hoops this winter..
Come springtime... Remove the Giants and Knicks. Unless STJ makes a serious run in the tourney...( elite 8) Rangers, Knicks, Nets will still be more discussed...
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NY most popular teams:
1. Giants
2. Yankees
3. Knicks
4. Jets
5. Rangers
6. Mets
7. Islanders
8. Devils
9. Liberty
10. SJU
Nice run in tourney probably gets us to 7
Liberty?
Come on bro
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Boo, did you erase that post because you realized that there is no way the Knicks are bigger than the Yankees?
I erased it because that wasn't really the point of the discussion, or so I thought.
NY is a baseball town. So the Yanks are bigger. Even so, no one shows up to their games anymore because they had a bad season. Tells you all you need to know about that fanbase. I equate Yankee fans with Cowboys fans... Popular team to root for.. At least Cowboy fans still root when their team stinks..
If , by some miracle , the Mets were good again. they would be more popular. We saw it in the mid to late 80s.. Much bigger than the Yanks.
I do believe that the Knicks are a close , close second..
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NY most popular teams:
1. Giants
2. Yankees
3. Knicks
4. Jets
5. Rangers
6. Mets
7. Islanders
8. Devils
9. Liberty
10. SJU
Nice run in tourney probably gets us to 7
Liberty?
Come on bro
Can't have a post with out some sort of dig at STJ...
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NY most popular teams:
1. Giants
2. Yankees
3. Knicks
4. Jets
5. Rangers
6. Mets
7. Islanders
8. Devils
9. Liberty
10. SJU
Nice run in tourney probably gets us to 7
Liberty?
Come on bro
Can't have a post with out some sort of dig at STJ...
Mid-season form.
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Boo, did you erase that post because you realized that there is no way the Knicks are bigger than the Yankees?
I erased it because that wasn't really the point of the discussion, or so I thought.
NY is a baseball town. So the Yanks are bigger. Even so, no one shows up to their games anymore because they had a bad season. Tells you all you need to know about that fanbase. I equate Yankee fans with Cowboys fans... Popular team to root for.. At least Cowboy fans still root when their team stinks..
If , by some miracle , the Mets were good again. they would be more popular. We saw it in the mid to late 80s.. Much bigger than the Yanks.
I do believe that the Knicks are a close , close second..
Didn't witness the Mets in the 80's, were they really bigger then the yanks of the mid 90's/ early 2000's? And you have to go back twenty years to when the Yankees stink.
Not to mention 81 games with the majority of them during summer in NY is much different than 8 games during the fall in Texas.
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Boo, did you erase that post because you realized that there is no way the Knicks are bigger than the Yankees?
I erased it because that wasn't really the point of the discussion, or so I thought.
NY is a baseball town. So the Yanks are bigger. Even so, no one shows up to their games anymore because they had a bad season. Tells you all you need to know about that fanbase. I equate Yankee fans with Cowboys fans... Popular team to root for.. At least Cowboy fans still root when their team stinks..
If , by some miracle , the Mets were good again. they would be more popular. We saw it in the mid to late 80s.. Much bigger than the Yanks.
I do believe that the Knicks are a close , close second..
Didn't witness the Mets in the 80's, were they really bigger then the yanks of the mid 90's/ early 2000's? And you have to go back twenty years to when the Yankees stink.
Not to mention 81 games with the majority of them during summer in NY is much different than 8 games during the fall in Texas.
The mid to late 80's Mets were definitely more popular than Yankees at the time, but I wouldn't say that underachieving team from Queens was more popular than the Yankees of the late 90's/early 2000's, which should be ranked as one of the all-time great teams, with 4 championships in 5 years (and as a Mets fan, it pains me to say that).
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NY most popular teams:
1. Giants
2. Yankees
3. Knicks
4. Jets
5. Rangers
6. Mets
7. Islanders
8. Devils
9. Liberty
10. SJU
Nice run in tourney probably gets us to 7
Liberty?
Come on bro
He does have us over the Brooklyn Nets though.
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NY most popular teams:
1. Giants
2. Yankees
3. Knicks
4. Jets
5. Rangers
6. Mets
7. Islanders
8. Devils
9. Liberty
10. SJU
Nice run in tourney probably gets us to 7
Liberty?
Come on bro
He does have us over the Brooklyn Nets though.
Shirley an omission on his part.
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It's not like there's any other team to follow in NY.
When was the last time St Johns hoops was the bright spot in the NY sports scene?
I'd say Lavin's first year. When SJU is good people recognize it. I had people who never really follow college hoops that closely asking my questions knowing I went to SJU. Granted I was a baby during the mid 80's heyday and I'm sure it was magnified even more but our last trip to the tournament we were definitely getting interest around town.
It's not like there's any other team to follow in NY.
When was the last time St Johns hoops was the bright spot in the NY sports scene?
I'd say Lavin's first year. When SJU is good people recognize it. I had people who never really follow college hoops that closely asking my questions knowing I went to SJU. Granted I was a baby during the mid 80's heyday and I'm sure it was magnified even more but our last trip to the tournament we were definitely getting interest around town.
Moose you're still a baby! Got to admit you teed that one up for me! Just Kidding with you1 (SMILEY FACE)
One of these days you will actually put a smiley face in your post. :)
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They disappeared from my computer or at least I couldn't find them but your post seems to have corrected the problem! :) :) :) :) :)
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Boo, did you erase that post because you realized that there is no way the Knicks are bigger than the Yankees?
I erased it because that wasn't really the point of the discussion, or so I thought.
NY is a baseball town. So the Yanks are bigger. Even so, no one shows up to their games anymore because they had a bad season. Tells you all you need to know about that fanbase. I equate Yankee fans with Cowboys fans... Popular team to root for.. At least Cowboy fans still root when their team stinks..
If , by some miracle , the Mets were good again. they would be more popular. We saw it in the mid to late 80s.. Much bigger than the Yanks.
I do believe that the Knicks are a close , close second..
Didn't witness the Mets in the 80's, were they really bigger then the yanks of the mid 90's/ early 2000's? And you have to go back twenty years to when the Yankees stink.
Not to mention 81 games with the majority of them during summer in NY is much different than 8 games during the fall in Texas.
I didn't say those Mets teams were more popular than the late 90's yanks... Just at the time.
I think it will be fascinating to watch this whole generation of yankee fans, spoiled with winning beyond belief, react to being an average team again....
..because, have no doubt, that is where it's headed.
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Boo, did you erase that post because you realized that there is no way the Knicks are bigger than the Yankees?
I erased it because that wasn't really the point of the discussion, or so I thought.
NY is a baseball town. So the Yanks are bigger. Even so, no one shows up to their games anymore because they had a bad season. Tells you all you need to know about that fanbase. I equate Yankee fans with Cowboys fans... Popular team to root for.. At least Cowboy fans still root when their team stinks..
If , by some miracle , the Mets were good again. they would be more popular. We saw it in the mid to late 80s.. Much bigger than the Yanks.
I do believe that the Knicks are a close , close second..
Didn't witness the Mets in the 80's, were they really bigger then the yanks of the mid 90's/ early 2000's? And you have to go back twenty years to when the Yankees stink.
Not to mention 81 games with the majority of them during summer in NY is much different than 8 games during the fall in Texas.
I didn't say those Mets teams were more popular than the late 90's yanks... Just at the time.
I think it will be fascinating to watch this whole generation of yankee fans, spoiled with winning beyond belief, react to being an average team again....
..because, have no doubt, that is where it's headed.
Can't know where they are headed until we see who is on the team next season. We already know where the Mets are headed.
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You know where they are headed, Poison. You are smarter than that I hope. Aging players with massive contracts and a mandate to be below the 189 mil number and maybe the worst farm system in all of baseball.
Mets are headed up is what i assume you meant. The Harvey injury sucks bad , but in general the team is young with a lot of talent in the minors and promising players ready to take the next step..
Remove pinstripe glasses and take a look.
I expect both teams to be about 500. Yanks will be .500 or slightly worse. Mets .500 or a few games above..
Way off topic here... Sorry.. I'm done.. Baseball is over.
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I say:
Yankees
Cowboys (when their in town beating the other NY team)
St. John's
Islanders
Jets
Devils
The Ho-Hum Division
Rangers
Mets
Knicks
Nets
Giants
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1 .Forgot about the Nets
2. How is that a dig at SJU? I am a fan and go to games probably so do the other 45 of you but that is about all the fans the team has. Granted I don't go to Queens, but I go to the Garden and I can't remember the last time we had a full crowd of SJU fans. I am just trying to keep you honest. Cmon man. SJU will be the talk of the city lol. Does that mean they will actually have a beat writer this season? I just couldn't live with myself I didn't respond to some of the nonsense spouted here. Baby steps. Make a tourney couple times in a row maybe even win a tourney game then get back to me on talk of city nonsense. I guess being a fan is short for fanatical but is not short for delusional.
3. Granted they only play 8 home games and 16 total but the Giants have a waiting list for season tickets while the Yankees had tons of available seats. I am not Giants fan but just by my observations and what the ticket tape parades look like I think Giants are number 1 team in city. Again just my opinion. Giants and Yanks are def 1 and 2 in some order. Tough to gauge Yanks because of all fair weathered fans though.
4. Was dragged to a Liberty game and Garden was fuller than I have seen for SJU games. Granted I think the Baylor girl was playing but I wasn't really paying attention as I was too busy counting Lesbians ;)
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Boo, did you erase that post because you realized that there is no way the Knicks are bigger than the Yankees?
I erased it because that wasn't really the point of the discussion, or so I thought.
NY is a baseball town. So the Yanks are bigger. Even so, no one shows up to their games anymore because they had a bad season. Tells you all you need to know about that fanbase. I equate Yankee fans with Cowboys fans... Popular team to root for.. At least Cowboy fans still root when their team stinks..
If , by some miracle , the Mets were good again. they would be more popular. We saw it in the mid to late 80s.. Much bigger than the Yanks.
I do believe that the Knicks are a close , close second..
Didn't witness the Mets in the 80's, were they really bigger then the yanks of the mid 90's/ early 2000's? And you have to go back twenty years to when the Yankees stink.
Not to mention 81 games with the majority of them during summer in NY is much different than 8 games during the fall in Texas.
I didn't say those Mets teams were more popular than the late 90's yanks... Just at the time.
I think it will be fascinating to watch this whole generation of yankee fans, spoiled with winning beyond belief, react to being an average team again....
..because, have no doubt, that is where it's headed.
Lets wait till they have a season below five hundred before we announce where they are headed. Where were the Red Sox headed? Baseball is fickle, unless of course your a mets fan ;)
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I don't think Felix can shoot or score at this level, that's not a good for a shooting guard. Never saw max play, all I know is he played at a big hs. He got plenty of exposure and no one wanted him. He was at Harvard and didn't play. I will happily eat my words if both make an impact.
You are way off on Felix. His upside is absurd. He played with amazing pace for a freshman. He was almost always under control and he showed me that he can be a menace scoring around the baseline. At worst, he will evolve into a shutdown defender and all-world rebounder out of the 2/3 spots. He will be able to shutdown three positions and guard four.
I watched quite a few of his OSNA games and his shot--while certainly not pretty--was effective. He also got into his shot without any hesitation and was looked at as a scorer. I would not be shocked if he started draining them the next two years. The problem is that he is surrounded by so much talent and experience right now. He seems like a great redshirt option to me.
Retract my comments last year for taking you to task for stating that Amir was going to be an incredible player for us. Even incredible players are not necessarily all-world. (SMILEY FACE)
LOL I was a big Garrett fan and I still am. Heart of a lion, rebounded like a madman, could do a little bit of everything. Only one of him and Dom was going to make it and Dom is a physical freak and top 40 recruit and Garrett was limited because of baseball. I think if he gave up baseball he could be a second round NBA pick. I hope his new school is a half-court, spread the floor type of team that can allow him to do display his talents to the fullest. Garrett, though, is much more limited than Balamou. Balamou has no ceiling.
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1 .Forgot about the Nets
2. How is that a dig at SJU? I am a fan and go to games probably so do the other 45 of you but that is about all the fans the team has. Granted I don't go to Queens, but I go to the Garden and I can't remember the last time we had a full crowd of SJU fans. I am just trying to keep you honest. Cmon man. SJU will be the talk of the city lol. Does that mean they will actually have a beat writer this season? I just couldn't live with myself I didn't respond to some of the nonsense spouted here. Baby steps. Make a tourney couple times in a row maybe even win a tourney game then get back to me on talk of city nonsense. I guess being a fan is short for fanatical but is not short for delusional.
3. Granted they only play 8 home games and 16 total but the Giants have a waiting list for season tickets while the Yankees had tons of available seats. I am not Giants fan but just by my observations and what the ticket tape parades look like I think Giants are number 1 team in city. Again just my opinion. Giants and Yanks are def 1 and 2 in some order. Tough to gauge Yanks because of all fair weathered fans though.
4. Was dragged to a Liberty game and Garden was fuller than I have seen for SJU games. Granted I think the Baylor girl was playing but I wasn't really paying attention as I was too busy counting Lesbians ;)
Yankee fans are fair weather? Um, what NY fan base isn't, if they are fair weather?
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You know where they are headed, Poison. You are smarter than that I hope. Aging players with massive contracts and a mandate to be below the 189 mil number and maybe the worst farm system in all of baseball.
Mets are headed up is what i assume you meant. The Harvey injury sucks bad , but in general the team is young with a lot of talent in the minors and promising players ready to take the next step..
Remove pinstripe glasses and take a look.
I expect both teams to be about 500. Yanks will be .500 or slightly worse. Mets .500 or a few games above..
Way off topic here... Sorry.. I'm done.. Baseball is over.
The Mets have had the same ending for the last 5 seasons. That isn't up.
The Yankee farm system isn't so bare. They had injuries at the minor league level. That is not the same as not having the pieces. In sports, there are things we can't predict, but I will go out on a limb and predict that the Mets won't break 70 wins, because they have no pen, no offense, defense, and no money.
The Yanks, 189 or not, will get younger, and they'll spend. As well they should.
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Quote-Yankee fans are fair weather? Um, what NY fan base isn't, if they are fair weather?-Poison
I am not. I like the Mets, Knicks and SJU. Pretty rough past decade.
1 Met postseason
4 Knick Postseason
1 NCAA tourney
Anytime the Knicks are your go to franchise you can't be called fair weather
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I became a Yankees fans when Horace Clarke was their 2nd baseman. I'm not sure why the team that is always at or near the top in terms of attendance is always accused of having fair weather fans.
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You know where they are headed, Poison. You are smarter than that I hope. Aging players with massive contracts and a mandate to be below the 189 mil number and maybe the worst farm system in all of baseball.
Mets are headed up is what i assume you meant. The Harvey injury sucks bad , but in general the team is young with a lot of talent in the minors and promising players ready to take the next step..
Remove pinstripe glasses and take a look.
I expect both teams to be about 500. Yanks will be .500 or slightly worse. Mets .500 or a few games above..
Way off topic here... Sorry.. I'm done.. Baseball is over.
Agree it's off topic, but I'd be willing to continue this in a different thread boo.
I think this offseason will tell us a lot about the future of the Mets. If the front office can't reinvest in the club, I'm not sure how much we can grow. Even with the Syndergaards and Monteros coming up. I think the fact that they aren't even sniffing at this Cuban first baseman is a bad sign.
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Honestly rehiring Collins, I feel sets a bad example as well. Another year of caretaking as they wait and see about Harvey. I still doubt they have $ to spend
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Desco- We've been told they are going to spend... all we have to go on for now. I'd like to see them go after Tulowitzki and Choo personally.
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How does re-hiring Collins set a bad example? Those players play hard for him. I agree, he isn't the greatest in-game manager ever, but he hasn't had anything to work with.
Unless Alderson has been flat out lying to everyone this year, they will spend money. Santana and Bay contracts off the books..
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Desco- We've been told they are going to spend... all we have to go on for now. I'd like to see them go after Tulowitzki and Choo personally.
I'm not willing to say they won't spend, and so we're going to be in trouble. Yet. But I have my concerns. I'm still willing to wait and see. I hope you're right. I want to believe Sandy, but I think ownership really has tied his hands.
The problem with the "money off the books" explanation is that most of Sanatana and Bay's money was deferred several years down the road. They didn't pay them all that much this season. Also, we've had money come off the books for 3 straight offseasons now. Each year the payroll has gotten smaller and they've told us next year they would reinvest. I haven't seen it yet.
But, like you say, for now we have to believe them. And I will.
I do agree though, Tulo and Choo are the bats I'd like to see. I mean, I'd love Cano, but that's a pipe dream. Realistically two bats would go a long way towards improving this club.
Also, I agree re Collins. What do people expect him to do? He's not perfect, but I can't judge him till he has something to work with.
Do you ever read Howard Megdal? I'm not his biggest fan, but occasionally he does good investigative work into the Wilpons.
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/sports/2013/06/8530740/jeff-wilpon-and-myth-free-spending-mets-winter-come (http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/sports/2013/06/8530740/jeff-wilpon-and-myth-free-spending-mets-winter-come)
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Collins is the Met version of Norm Roberts. For a 70-75 win team with young players it makes sense. Not if you are trying to win.
I have heard Alderson on Francessa numerous times say"they will have $ to spend". Not we will spend $. I have read things online questioning the Wilpons cash situation. I still have my doubts. You don't?
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Mods - can you bring our comments to a Mets offseason thread? Thank you
We're in danger of hijacking this thread
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NY most popular teams:
1. Giants
2. Yankees
3. Knicks
4. Jets
5. Rangers
6. Mets
7. Islanders
8. Devils
9. Liberty
10. SJU
Nice run in tourney probably gets us to 7
That is too funny.