The path to 75 points a game

Greg Williams has a higher ceiling because of his athleticism and what he can do off the bounce. He also looked like the better defender.  It's fair to say that Phil had the higher floor because he was more D-1 ready and slightly more skilled.

He certainly looked best of last seasons young bunch. I would like to think that Earlington and Dr. Roberts could be major contributors this year but that would require a large leap forward from what they showed out of the gate.

The trapezoid was athletic as all hell too.  He was quick, when not fighting hip injury, and had major league hops and dunking ability at 6' 1".

Coach is going to flourish here.

He had better. There's a plethora of so called fans here that will turn on our head coach in a heartbeat.

Even if they are the greatest player in franchise history that single handedly led the program to it's only final four and number one ranking in the post Nyc fixing scandal era. Or even if you just led your team to the highest high water mark level possible for this school. A first out Ncaa tournament loss. 

If there were any top 100 kids who checks off all the intangibles and wanted to be here they would be here. Is that too hard to understand?

That is hysterical. How many cults have your friends and family rescued you from?

You don’t think a single kid in the top 100 has the intangibles he’s looking for hahahaha hahahaha hahahahahaha!! And if they did, a coach who was just fired because he couldn’t recruit would just get them here. LOL

That’s adorable.

That is hysterical. How many cults have your friends and family rescued you from?

You don’t think a single kid in the top 100 has the intangibles he’s looking for hahahaha hahahaha hahahahahaha!! And if they did, a coach who was just fired because he couldn’t recruit would just get them here. LOL

That’s adorable.

The part you missed here was the "and wanted to be here". There are TONS of kids with the intangibles, but there aren't many who want to be here.

You happened to leave that part out, be it intentional or not.

There are TONS of kids with the intangibles, but there aren't many who want to be here.

Congratulations, you just defined the role coaches play in recruiting. It is literally their job to make kids “want to be” where they are coaching.  Making people want something is sales.

Furthermore, the most oft cited reason for kids committing to play for a certain program is to play for the coach of that program. There has been a saying for decades in college basketball:  “Recruits commit to coaches not programs.” 

Norm Roberts got the best kids that “wanted to be here” too.

Let’s strip all objective ways to measure recruiting and go on feelings and intangibles. That sounds good. I mean, things tend to workout for the better  at St. John’s, right?

Congratulations, you just defined the role coaches play in recruiting. It is literally their job to make kids “want to be” where they are coaching.  Making people want something is sales.

Furthermore, the most oft cited reason for kids committing to play for a certain program is to play for the coach of that program. There has been a saying for decades in college basketball:  “Recruits commit to coaches not programs.” 

Norm Roberts got the best kids that “wanted to be here” too.

Let’s strip all objective ways to measure recruiting and go on feelings and intangibles. That sounds good. I mean, things tend to workout for the better  at St. John’s, right?

What happened when norms recruits got coached?

Congratulations, you just defined the role coaches play in recruiting. It is literally their job to make kids “want to be” where they are coaching.  Making people want something is sales.

Furthermore, the most oft cited reason for kids committing to play for a certain program is to play for the coach of that program. There has been a saying for decades in college basketball:  “Recruits commit to coaches not programs.” 

Norm Roberts got the best kids that “wanted to be here” too.

Let’s strip all objective ways to measure recruiting and go on feelings and intangibles. That sounds good. I mean, things tend to workout for the better  at St. John’s, right?

Do you want a salesman or a coach? I would prefer the latter after having suffered through back to back salesmen. Though I did like Lavin.

I'm not dumb, and I'm also not super impressed with the class we have incoming, at the same time if you look at CMA's recipe for success, which BTW - to date would make him the 2nd best all time SJU Coach and probably have his jersey hanging in the rafters - is not about getting top kids. So by that accord, I'll give him a pass until I see results.

I know he's young and I guess anything is possible, but he would have to improve his three point shooting a ton to be similar to the Rhombus. Phil led the entire conference in three point shooting as a senior.

Carmine I think you are adding to my point that Phil Greene was better suited at shooting guard.

Greg Williams has a higher ceiling because of his athleticism and what he can do off the bounce. He also looked like the better defender.  It's fair to say that Phil had the higher floor because he was more D-1 ready and slightly more skilled.

Both guys were solid coming out. More solid at everything not terrible at anything. I think Phil was quicker while Greg is more bouncy. But again both pretty close.

If there were any top 100 kids who checks off all the intangibles and wanted to be here they would be here. Is that too hard to understand? I’m referring to his vision. You can remain stuck on the stars. Coach is going to flourish here.

More and more kids are becoming less and less informed on choosing a college and they don't know where they want to go. I think this is a big reason for transfer culture.

Generally they are presented with said options and they flaunt it around a bit and advised on where to go.

Do you want a salesman or a coach? I would prefer the latter after having suffered through back to back salesmen. Though I did like Lavin.

I'm not dumb, and I'm also not super impressed with the class we have incoming, at the same time if you look at CMA's recipe for success, which BTW - to date would make him the 2nd best all time SJU Coach and probably have his jersey hanging in the rafters - is not about getting top kids. So by that accord, I'll give him a pass until I see results.

I'd prefer a CEO. Someone who has coaching chops but also knows how to rally and generate buzz and manage staff and school. When you're in NY and competing with everything NY has to offer with subpar facilities and campus life you need more than a clipboard and a good practice plan.