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Re: Wagner Game Thread
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2015, 02:55:18 PM »
Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2015, 01:52:45 PM
Quote from: redstorm212 on November 14, 2015, 01:28:13 PM
Extremely excited about Sima. He has an impressive post game already. Great touch on his shots. Also, he's not quite Obekpa on the defensive end, but it looks like he will be a solid rim protector.

Let's be fair to obekpa...he averaged somewhere around 4 blocks a game...that's 8 points plus however many he altered (players trying to shoot higher) or just creating a fear to drive. Obekpa was pretty unique on the shots changed end, let's give him credit for that.

Yea Sima plays defense as opposed to wanting to block every shot thrown up. Obekpa was good for minus 4 to 6 points every game with goaltends
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Re: Wagner Game Thread
« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2015, 03:03:56 PM »
Quote from: redstorm212 on November 14, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2015, 01:52:45 PM
Quote from: redstorm212 on November 14, 2015, 01:28:13 PM
Extremely excited about Sima. He has an impressive post game already. Great touch on his shots. Also, he's not quite Obekpa on the defensive end, but it looks like he will be a solid rim protector.

Yea Sima plays defense as opposed to wanting to block every shot thrown up. Obekpa was good for minus 4 to 6 points every game with goaltends

Obekpa was one of the best defensive centers in college basketball. Sima had a solid game against Wagner. I'm all for giving him praise but let's not forget the force Obekpa was in the paint.

You can say that but I am in the camp that he far too often looked just for the block.  Most of his blocks were help side blocks as well.  A sign the team in front of him didn't play tough enough D because they knew he was back there.  That's not a recipe for success.

Look is the fact that he was an nice person playing into this harsh criticism?  Sure I'm not unbiased here.  But even before his nice personic tendencies he far too often played just for the block and I wish they kept track of goal tends.  They have to right?  Some Ken Pom like nerd has to right?
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Re: Wagner Game Thread
« Reply #62 on: November 14, 2015, 03:13:01 PM »
Quote from: survivedc on November 14, 2015, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2015, 01:52:45 PM
Quote from: redstorm212 on November 14, 2015, 01:28:13 PM
Extremely excited about Sima. He has an impressive post game already. Great touch on his shots. Also, he's not quite Obekpa on the defensive end, but it looks like he will be a solid rim protector.

Let's be fair to obekpa...he averaged somewhere around 4 blocks a game...that's 8 points plus however many he altered (players trying to shoot higher) or just creating a fear to drive. Obekpa was pretty unique on the shots changed end, let's give him credit for that.

Yea Sima plays defense as opposed to wanting to block every shot thrown up. Obekpa was good for minus 4 to 6 points every game with goaltends

In conference play last year we were last in the BE in points allowed per game, last in rebounding.  Yes we had the 4th best opponents FG% but I think that just allowed guys to chuck from deep against us where we again ranked last.
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Re: Wagner Game Thread
« Reply #63 on: November 14, 2015, 08:24:42 PM »
Obekpa had unbelievably bad footwork, a liability on offense.....Blocked shots but was a poor rebounder for all his athleticism. End of story!
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Re: Wagner Game Thread
« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2015, 11:44:25 PM »
Quote from: Poison on November 14, 2015, 12:40:28 PM
Quote from: TONYD3 on November 14, 2015, 12:09:44 PM
I do t remember Johnson from Pitt. But hearing everyone's scouting report, I expected someone much more athletic. I don't think we scored any fast break points last night.

He is athletic, but if you don't play hard, you don't get credit for it. He's Avery Patterson 2.0

I would like to hope he's Avery Patterson 2,  but I highly doubt he'll ever hit 72 threes in a season.
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Re: Wagner Game Thread
« Reply #65 on: November 15, 2015, 11:55:40 PM »
Quote from: carmineabbatiello on November 15, 2015, 11:44:25 PM
Quote from: Poison on November 14, 2015, 12:40:28 PM
Quote from: TONYD3 on November 14, 2015, 12:09:44 PM
I do t remember Johnson from Pitt. But hearing everyone's scouting report, I expected someone much more athletic. I don't think we scored any fast break points last night.

He is athletic, but if you don't play hard, you don't get credit for it. He's Avery Patterson 2.0

I would like to hope he's Avery Patterson 2,  but I highly doubt he'll ever hit 72 threes in a season.

No value in hitting 72 threes if you give up 125.
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carmineabbatiello

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Re: Wagner Game Thread
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2015, 02:01:56 PM »
Quote from: Poison on November 15, 2015, 11:55:40 PM
Quote from: carmineabbatiello on November 15, 2015, 11:44:25 PM
Quote from: Poison on November 14, 2015, 12:40:28 PM
Quote from: TONYD3 on November 14, 2015, 12:09:44 PM
I do t remember Johnson from Pitt. But hearing everyone's scouting report, I expected someone much more athletic. I don't think we scored any fast break points last night.

He is athletic, but if you don't play hard, you don't get credit for it. He's Avery Patterson 2.0

I would like to hope he's Avery Patterson 2,  but I highly doubt he'll ever hit 72 threes in a season.

No value in hitting 72 threes if you give up 125.

One value is quantifiable.  One is speculative non-sense.
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carmineabbatiello

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Re: Wagner Game Thread
« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2015, 02:16:12 PM »
- 6:00 start was brutal.  Unfortunately, still a ghost town when Mullin was announced in his first game ever.  People did keep filing in into the second half.  Decent crowd by the end.

- Appears that St. Jean has an indispensable and extremely active role in coaching the team.

- Staff has identified it's best players already and are playing them.  Kudos.  We've had coaches that never figured that out.

- Fellini is very slight in stature.  If he can survive the entire season with what he's going to be asked to do,  it will be quite an accomplishment.

- Lots of silly, dumb fouling.  Mr. Jones and Malik IV (Mrs. A says he plays very "handsy") main culprits.  AA seemed to be fouling on purpose.

- Touching moment post-game when Chris climbed into the stands to be congratulated, hugged and kissed by his mentor.  Made me happy I went.
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