Mussini headed back to Italy?

Quote from: Marillac on May 31, 2017, 02:51:16 PM

Quote from: Foad on May 31, 2017, 10:29:13 AM

Quote from: Marillac on May 31, 2017, 09:58:46 AM

Overall, I give the slight edge to Mussini and believe he is the best pure shooter in the Big East.

As a freshman Marcus Howard shot 55 percent from three on 20 more attempts than Missini took as a sophomore.

He had a great year, but I don't think we'll see anywhere near those #s from him again. He is going to be a focus for defenses next year. I wouldn't argue anyone placing him over Mussini...I got him #2.

What do you think Mussini would shoot if he was the focus of the defense?

Quote from: Marillac on May 31, 2017, 02:51:16 PM

Quote from: Foad on May 31, 2017, 10:29:13 AM

Quote from: Marillac on May 31, 2017, 09:58:46 AM

Overall, I give the slight edge to Mussini and believe he is the best pure shooter in the Big East.

As a freshman Marcus Howard shot 55 percent from three on 20 more attempts than Missini took as a sophomore.

He had a great year, but I don't think we'll see anywhere near those #s from him again. He is going to be a focus for defenses next year. I wouldn't argue anyone placing him over Mussini...I got him #2.

What do you think Mussini would shoot if he was the focus of the defense?










We saw that his freshman year and it wasn't pretty often.  He is a roleplayer who is best when he isn't the focal point/quote]

Quote from: Foad on May 31, 2017, 03:42:35 PM

Quote from: Marillac on May 31, 2017, 02:51:16 PM

Quote from: Foad on May 31, 2017, 10:29:13 AM

Quote from: Marillac on May 31, 2017, 09:58:46 AM

Overall, I give the slight edge to Mussini and believe he is the best pure shooter in the Big East.

As a freshman Marcus Howard shot 55 percent from three on 20 more attempts than Missini took as a sophomore.

He had a great year, but I don't think we'll see anywhere near those #s from him again. He is going to be a focus for defenses next year. I wouldn't argue anyone placing him over Mussini...I got him #2.

What do you think Mussini would shoot if he was the focus of the defense?










We saw that his freshman year and it wasn't pretty often.  He is a roleplayer who is best when he isn't the focal point/quote]

What we saw his freshman year was a kid playing out of position with nothing around him. Probably a very different story if you gave him Lovett/Ponds/Bash or Rowsey/Reinhardt/Johnson. We were REALLY bad two years ago.

Quote from: carmineabbatiello on May 31, 2017, 01:47:54 AM

Quote from: apesNapes on May 30, 2017, 06:15:08 PM

and good argument that ponds is the better outside shooter.

Ponds - 38%
Fellini  - 43%

Not that good an argument.

According to ESPN Ponds shot 37.5 percent from three as a freshman playing 34 minutes a game. Missini shot 42.7 percent from three as a sophomore in almost half as many minutes a game, 19, and on 70 fewer attempts. Nearly all of Mussini's threes came on plays where he stood in the corner with his feet squared waiting for someone to throw him the ball. Nearly none of Ponds threes came under those circumstances and in fact the opposite: most came as a result of his creating his own shot, often late in the shot clock. In light of which your belief that a difference of five made threes out of a hundred is proof of anything means we can add shooting and statistics to the long list of things you know little about.

Seriously, you should stick to making up cryptic nick names for the players. It's not clever or interesting, but it could be your shtick. Think of yourself as Gallagher and the players as watermelons you smash with your leaden sledgehammer wit, spraying the crowd with stinky goo pink.   

It's fundamental statistical analysis 101 to hypothesize that the guy who does something at a better clip is better at doing said something.  It's not reinventing the wheel.

It's simple really.

Quote from: carmineabbatiello on May 31, 2017, 11:15:42 PM

It's fundamental statistical analysis 101 to hypothesize that the guy who does something at a better clip is better at doing said something.  It's not reinventing the wheel.

It's simple really.

John Paciorek had a lifetime major league batting average of 1.000. Ted Williams had a lifetime batting average of .344. Therefore John Paciorek was better at hitting baseballs than Ted Williams. It's simple really, if you're a simpleton.

There is nothing Mussini does better than Ponds, except complain.

Dixon 45&37 + 86 from the free throw line.  If Mussini goes, which I hope he doesn't we do have a replacement down the line.

Dixon 45&37 + 86 from the free throw line.  If Mussini goes, which I hope he doesn't we do have a replacement down the line.

Quote from: Courts603 on June 01, 2017, 06:02:15 PM

Dixon 45&37 + 86 from the free throw line.  If Mussini goes, which I hope he doesn't we do have a replacement down the line.

That's in the MAAC. Mussini would have better numbers in a shit league. Dixon is a wild card. He could be Mo Watson. He could be Alpha Bangura.

Quote from: Poison on June 01, 2017, 08:41:00 PM

Quote from: Courts603 on June 01, 2017, 06:02:15 PM

Dixon 45&37 + 86 from the free throw line.  If Mussini goes, which I hope he doesn't we do have a replacement down the line.

That's in the MAAC. Mussini would have better numbers in a shit league. Dixon is a wild card. He could be Mo Watson. He could be Alpha Bangura.

Mussini likely would have gotten focus as a primary scorer in the MAAC so hard to say if percentages would be better or worse or similar. Scoring averages would be up for sure, but percentages, I don't know.

Mussini vs Hooper. Compare apples to apples.

Comparing him to Shamorie Ponds, one of the best freshman this program has ever had is insane. There is nothing Mussini does better than Ponds, except complain.

Want to compare Ponds to another Johnny past or present? Good luck. I can't think of any freshman combo guard that was as good as him. Maybe Erick Barkley, and Ponds is more well rounded.

Quote from: Poison on June 01, 2017, 03:44:32 PM

Mussini vs Hooper. Compare apples to apples.

Comparing him to Shamorie Ponds, one of the best freshman this program has ever had is insane. There is nothing Mussini does better than Ponds, except complain.

Want to compare Ponds to another Johnny past or present? Good luck. I can't think of any freshman combo guard that was as good as him. Maybe Erick Barkley, and Ponds is more well rounded.

I'm the biggest Ponds fan here and your post is silly. Nobody thinks Mussini is half the player Ponds is, but they are very close as pure shooters whatever order you put them. I think they are both top five in the conference.

Quote from: Marillac on June 01, 2017, 10:02:40 PM

Quote from: Poison on June 01, 2017, 03:44:32 PM

Mussini vs Hooper. Compare apples to apples.

Comparing him to Shamorie Ponds, one of the best freshman this program has ever had is insane. There is nothing Mussini does better than Ponds, except complain.

Want to compare Ponds to another Johnny past or present? Good luck. I can't think of any freshman combo guard that was as good as him. Maybe Erick Barkley, and Ponds is more well rounded.

I'm the biggest Ponds fan here and your post is silly. Nobody thinks Mussini is half the player Ponds is, but they are very close as pure shooters whatever order you put them. I think they are both top five in the conference.

If you've watched most of our games, and I imagine you have, you should know that Mussini hits his threes when we are up by 20, or down by 20. He has no position at this level other than as a spot up shooter who must rely on his teammates doing the work to get him open.  Mussini is like Hooper. He's a "pure shooter" in an empty gym.  What good is great form if you can't move your feet?

Quote from: carmineabbatiello on May 31, 2017, 11:15:42 PM

It's fundamental statistical analysis 101 to hypothesize that the guy who does something at a better clip is better at doing said something.  It's not reinventing the wheel.

It's simple really.

John Paciorek had a lifetime major league batting average of 1.000. Ted Williams had a lifetime batting average of .344. Therefore John Paciorek was better at hitting baseballs than Ted Williams. It's simple really, if you're a simpleton.

Comparing him to Shamorie Ponds, one of the best freshman this program has ever had is insane. There is nothing Mussini does better than Ponds, except complain.

Quote from: Poison on June 01, 2017, 10:11:52 PM

Quote from: Marillac on June 01, 2017, 10:02:40 PM

Quote from: Poison on June 01, 2017, 03:44:32 PM

Mussini vs Hooper. Compare apples to apples.

Comparing him to Shamorie Ponds, one of the best freshman this program has ever had is insane. There is nothing Mussini does better than Ponds, except complain.

Want to compare Ponds to another Johnny past or present? Good luck. I can't think of any freshman combo guard that was as good as him. Maybe Erick Barkley, and Ponds is more well rounded.

I'm the biggest Ponds fan here and your post is silly. Nobody thinks Mussini is half the player Ponds is, but they are very close as pure shooters whatever order you put them. I think they are both top five in the conference.

If you've watched most of our games, and I imagine you have, you should know that Mussini hits his threes when we are up by 20, or down by 20. He has no position at this level other than as a spot up shooter who must rely on his teammates doing the work to get him open.  Mussini is like Hooper. He's a "pure shooter" in an empty gym.  What good is great form if you can't move your feet?

How many times were we up 20? You reduce things way too far. It's not that simple.