Trust the Process

Quote from: Poison on January 05, 2018, 10:02:42 AM

Quote from: Mullin77 on January 05, 2018, 09:24:03 AM

Quote from: TONYD3 on January 04, 2018, 06:33:32 PM

Quote from: Foad on January 04, 2018, 06:11:23 PM

Quote from: TONYD3 on January 04, 2018, 05:46:04 PM

Still would take Lavin back in a heartbeat,

That's because you're dumb.

No because Lavin is Basketball coach . Basketball coaches are paid to win games.

U seriously can’t be this stupid.... LOL.... Lavin left Mullin w/ two schollie players : Jordan, who is a criminal... and Obekpa, who had b-ball IQ of a rock.

Anyone w/ half a brain realized it would take a MINIMUM of three years to turn this thing around. IMHO, we are right on schedule... w/out the injuries to our STARTING guards we would be in the top 25 as we speak..... pipe down u fool.

Mullin had nothing to work with when he started. We all know that, but you’re not painting an accurate picture. Lavin was pushed out, or fired. Whichever. But the fact remains he didn’t have a chance to finish recruiting. We can’t say he left Mullin with two players when we know that he wasn’t going to leave himself with two players. When a coach is fired, players leave. That’s what you’re signing up for. As horrible as things turned out for Jordan, who was clearly a troubled kid from day one, they still included him as a member of the team. Had he stayed, his life may have turned out differently. I think you’re being unfairly hard on Obekpa. He wasn’t a well rounded player, but he absolutely would have helped the team had he returned. Work ethic and personality aside, he was still an above average center in the BE.

In addition to Jordan and Obekpa, Brandon Sampson would have played in the backcourt with Jordan. There’s no comparison to a backcourt of Jordan and Sampson and a backcourt of Mussini and M’Vouika.

Lavin made a mess of every class he brought here because the management part of the job ate him alive. He’s where he belongs now. Talking. It’s how he landed so many quality players early on, and then had no clue how to take it from there.

Huh?... u are a babbling fool.

There is a reason Lavin can’t get a job... he shit the bed & left our program with nothing but a criminal & a pot head.... those are the FACTS “genius”(lol)

Brandon Sampson would not have made a difference in big east play in year 1 .....he made zero impact at LSU on a team that did not reach the NIT. Yes they had some better players ahead of him but we can not say he was going to be difference maker.

I would love to hear what you think would fix St. John's

New campus arena would be a nice start. Place is a dump. 

#SweepTheHomestand

New Zach article

https://nypost.com/2018/01/06/chris-mullin-wont-make-excuses-for-shorthanded-st-johns/

Quote from: QuanMan on January 05, 2018, 11:48:19 AM

#SweepTheHomestand

Out for blood today!!!
Well we got it. We bleed to death!

If Johnny jungle didn’t exist and fans just watched Basketball and read the sports page Steve Lavin would still be coach and most fans would have been happy. I am sure their was some non sense. But many of your recollections are just so off. Do you guys remember Dwight hardy? Dom and Harrison’s 4 years were at times disappointing. But for 4 years we beat some good teams. The garden had some decent crowds and most wore read and went home happy. After 5 years, the fan base had enough of that. And then he was fired. The program left even worse then when he got here.
These 3 years have been awful. Never had to happen. What is worse is that same fan base who watched us get killed under norm Roberts seems happier. Lifetime contracts. Trust the process.

If anyone watched St. John’s games without knowing we had a famous coach they would know we don’t play defense . That is not an opinion- this team gives up 80,90, 100 points like it is the game plan.
 We take bad shots- bad shooters shoot whenever and wherever they want. We don’t rebound- we don’t box out- last game was by 20. We’re they so big?
If we fix those 3 things we can compete. I don’t believe we will. Because I don’t trust the process.
Every wide open shot Ahmed gives and opponent , every missed dunk in warmups( yes that matters), any terrible 3 pointer taken by a player who has no business taking one, any time we give up 90 in a game make me trust that their is no process.

Quote from: TONYD3 on January 06, 2018, 01:55:47 PM

If Johnny jungle didn’t exist and fans just watched Basketball and read the sports page Steve Lavin would still be coach and most fans would have been happy. I am sure their was some non sense. But many of your recollections are just so off. Do you guys remember Dwight hardy? Dom and Harrison’s 4 years were at times disappointing. But for 4 years we beat some good teams. The garden had some decent crowds and most wore read and went home happy. After 5 years, the fan base had enough of that. And then he was fired. The program left even worse then when he got here.
These 3 years have been awful. Never had to happen. What is worse is that same fan base who watched us get killed under norm Roberts seems happier. Lifetime contracts. Trust the process.

If anyone watched St. John’s games without knowing we had a famous coach they would know we don’t play defense . That is not an opinion- this team gives up 80,90, 100 points like it is the game plan.
 We take bad shots- bad shooters shoot whenever and wherever they want. We don’t rebound- we don’t box out- last game was by 20. We’re they so big?
If we fix those 3 things we can compete. I don’t believe we will. Because I don’t trust the process.
Every wide open shot Ahmed gives and opponent , every missed dunk in warmups( yes that matters), any terrible 3 pointer taken by a player who has no business taking one, any time we give up 90 in a game make me trust that their is no process.

Do you remember how we started BE seasons with Lav? Speaking of recollections and all

Quote from: TONYD3 on January 06, 2018, 01:55:47 PM

If Johnny jungle didn’t exist and fans just watched Basketball and read the sports page Steve Lavin would still be coach and most fans would have been happy. I am sure their was some non sense. But many of your recollections are just so off. Do you guys remember Dwight hardy? Dom and Harrison’s 4 years were at times disappointing. But for 4 years we beat some good teams. The garden had some decent crowds and most wore read and went home happy. After 5 years, the fan base had enough of that. And then he was fired. The program left even worse then when he got here.
These 3 years have been awful. Never had to happen. What is worse is that same fan base who watched us get killed under norm Roberts seems happier. Lifetime contracts. Trust the process.

If anyone watched St. John’s games without knowing we had a famous coach they would know we don’t play defense . That is not an opinion- this team gives up 80,90, 100 points like it is the game plan.
 We take bad shots- bad shooters shoot whenever and wherever they want. We don’t rebound- we don’t box out- last game was by 20. We’re they so big?
If we fix those 3 things we can compete. I don’t believe we will. Because I don’t trust the process.
Every wide open shot Ahmed gives and opponent , every missed dunk in warmups( yes that matters), any terrible 3 pointer taken by a player who has no business taking one, any time we give up 90 in a game make me trust that their is no process.

Do you remember how we started BE seasons with Lav? Speaking of recollections and all

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on January 06, 2018, 07:58:08 PM

Quote from: TONYD3 on January 06, 2018, 01:55:47 PM

If Johnny jungle didn’t exist and fans just watched Basketball and read the sports page Steve Lavin would still be coach and most fans would have been happy. I am sure their was some non sense. But many of your recollections are just so off. Do you guys remember Dwight hardy? Dom and Harrison’s 4 years were at times disappointing. But for 4 years we beat some good teams. The garden had some decent crowds and most wore read and went home happy. After 5 years, the fan base had enough of that. And then he was fired. The program left even worse then when he got here.
These 3 years have been awful. Never had to happen. What is worse is that same fan base who watched us get killed under norm Roberts seems happier. Lifetime contracts. Trust the process.

If anyone watched St. John’s games without knowing we had a famous coach they would know we don’t play defense . That is not an opinion- this team gives up 80,90, 100 points like it is the game plan.
 We take bad shots- bad shooters shoot whenever and wherever they want. We don’t rebound- we don’t box out- last game was by 20. We’re they so big?
If we fix those 3 things we can compete. I don’t believe we will. Because I don’t trust the process.
Every wide open shot Ahmed gives and opponent , every missed dunk in warmups( yes that matters), any terrible 3 pointer taken by a player who has no business taking one, any time we give up 90 in a game make me trust that their is no process.

Do you remember how we started BE seasons with Lav? Speaking of recollections and all

Why can't they both suck?

He puts together another season like he did last year, he can go take a hike