Trust the Process

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 11:52:02 AM

Quote from: rdstr25 on January 09, 2018, 11:44:35 AM

If Mullin does not work out, no one will be surprised.  It was a gamble and a half, by an administration who saw $$ signs because the face of the program wanted to bring us back to relevancy.  There was little to no search once Mullin wanted to come on board.  Look at the leagues coaching salaries, other than Mullin, only a few other guys make 2 million or more, Cooley and Wright.  If the school is willing to pay Mullin more than 70% of the league, and make him one of the highest paid coaches, then they can figure out a way to bring in a qualified assistant from a top program to become HC at a competitive salary.

And a qualified assistant at a top program will want to come here why?
Not sure school has resources to be competitive in major conference anymore. Which is why they took a gamble on Chris Mullin.

SJU will always be a program that coaches see value in, especially a top assistant.  The school plays in one of the top conferences in the country, plays at the garden(which is still very important), offers a very competitive salary and IMO, next to salary being the most important, we are located in one of the most fertile recruiting territories in the country.   These guys are out there, and we do not need to look further than our own conference to see how they are succeeding. 

Quote from: rdstr25 on January 09, 2018, 11:44:35 AM

If Mullin does not work out, no one will be surprised.  It was a gamble and a half, by an administration who saw $$ signs because the face of the program wanted to bring us back to relevancy.  There was little to no search once Mullin wanted to come on board.  Look at the leagues coaching salaries, other than Mullin, only a few other guys make 2 million or more, Cooley and Wright.  If the school is willing to pay Mullin more than 70% of the league, and make him one of the highest paid coaches, then they can figure out a way to bring in a qualified assistant from a top program to become HC at a competitive salary.

And a qualified assistant at a top program will want to come here why?
Not sure school has resources to be competitive in major conference anymore. Which is why they took a gamble on Chris Mullin.

Quote from: rdstr25 on January 09, 2018, 11:59:32 AM

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 11:52:02 AM

Quote from: rdstr25 on January 09, 2018, 11:44:35 AM

If Mullin does not work out, no one will be surprised.  It was a gamble and a half, by an administration who saw $$ signs because the face of the program wanted to bring us back to relevancy.  There was little to no search once Mullin wanted to come on board.  Look at the leagues coaching salaries, other than Mullin, only a few other guys make 2 million or more, Cooley and Wright.  If the school is willing to pay Mullin more than 70% of the league, and make him one of the highest paid coaches, then they can figure out a way to bring in a qualified assistant from a top program to become HC at a competitive salary.

And a qualified assistant at a top program will want to come here why?
Not sure school has resources to be competitive in major conference anymore. Which is why they took a gamble on Chris Mullin.

SJU will always be a program that coaches see value in, especially a top assistant.  The school plays in one of the top conferences in the country, plays at the garden(which is still very important), offers a very competitive salary and IMO, next to salary being the most important, we are located in one of the most fertile recruiting territories in the country.   These guys are out there, and we do not need to look further than our own conference to see how they are succeeding. 

LOL

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 12:04:04 PM

Quote from: rdstr25 on January 09, 2018, 11:59:32 AM

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 11:52:02 AM

Quote from: rdstr25 on January 09, 2018, 11:44:35 AM

If Mullin does not work out, no one will be surprised.  It was a gamble and a half, by an administration who saw $$ signs because the face of the program wanted to bring us back to relevancy.  There was little to no search once Mullin wanted to come on board.  Look at the leagues coaching salaries, other than Mullin, only a few other guys make 2 million or more, Cooley and Wright.  If the school is willing to pay Mullin more than 70% of the league, and make him one of the highest paid coaches, then they can figure out a way to bring in a qualified assistant from a top program to become HC at a competitive salary.

And a qualified assistant at a top program will want to come here why?
Not sure school has resources to be competitive in major conference anymore. Which is why they took a gamble on Chris Mullin.

SJU will always be a program that coaches see value in, especially a top assistant.  The school plays in one of the top conferences in the country, plays at the garden(which is still very important), offers a very competitive salary and IMO, next to salary being the most important, we are located in one of the most fertile recruiting territories in the country.   These guys are out there, and we do not need to look further than our own conference to see how they are succeeding. 

LOL

Laugh all you want, but facts are facts, Lavin recruited well and won for our standards even as a subpar coach.  The problem has not been the players over the past 5-7 years, it has been that SJU refuses to try to bring in the right coach.

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 11:52:02 AM

Quote from: rdstr25 on January 09, 2018, 11:44:35 AM

If Mullin does not work out, no one will be surprised.  It was a gamble and a half, by an administration who saw $$ signs because the face of the program wanted to bring us back to relevancy.  There was little to no search once Mullin wanted to come on board.  Look at the leagues coaching salaries, other than Mullin, only a few other guys make 2 million or more, Cooley and Wright.  If the school is willing to pay Mullin more than 70% of the league, and make him one of the highest paid coaches, then they can figure out a way to bring in a qualified assistant from a top program to become HC at a competitive salary.

And a qualified assistant at a top program will want to come here why?
Not sure school has resources to be competitive in major conference anymore. Which is why they took a gamble on Chris Mullin.

You claim the posters that are critical are being too negative but we all feel St. John's CAN be very successful. You are the one that is truly negative with your woe is me it's just impossible for us to be successful.

Norm was over-matched and the longer he was allowed to stay the further from relevance the program was heading. It was going to take a while to remove Jarvis' stench and Norm's ineptitude. As much us I thought he was a chowder head I was fine with keeping Lavin. I thought he did about as well as we could expect. I know he wasn't a great coach and was an annoying self promoter but outside of a clear upgrade or Chris Mullin or Walter Berry being hired I was fine keeping him as coach. But since we replaced a somewhat successful coach, we have to give this one more than 2 years before we start bitching.
Tim Cluess has much less of a shot to turn this around.

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 12:40:58 PM

Norm was over-matched and the longer he was allowed to stay the further from relevance the program was heading. It was going to take a while to remove Jarvis' stench and Norm's ineptitude. As much us I thought he was a chowder head I was fine with keeping Lavin. I thought he did about as well as we could expect. I know he wasn't a great coach and was an annoying self promoter but outside of a clear upgrade or Chris Mullin or Walter Berry being hired I was fine keeping him as coach. But since we replaced a somewhat successful coach, we have to give this one more than 2 years before we start bitching.
Tim Cluess has much less of a shot to turn this around.

If Mullin was given another year. Staff stays the same. How do you think we do next year?

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 12:40:58 PM

Norm was over-matched and the longer he was allowed to stay the further from relevance the program was heading. It was going to take a while to remove Jarvis' stench and Norm's ineptitude. As much us I thought he was a chowder head I was fine with keeping Lavin. I thought he did about as well as we could expect. I know he wasn't a great coach and was an annoying self promoter but outside of a clear upgrade or Chris Mullin or Walter Berry being hired I was fine keeping him as coach. But since we replaced a somewhat successful coach, we have to give this one more than 2 years before we start bitching.
Tim Cluess has much less of a shot to turn this around.

If Mullin was given another year. Staff stays the same. How do you think we do next year?

Quote from: TONYD3 on January 09, 2018, 01:04:05 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 12:40:58 PM

Norm was over-matched and the longer he was allowed to stay the further from relevance the program was heading. It was going to take a while to remove Jarvis' stench and Norm's ineptitude. As much us I thought he was a chowder head I was fine with keeping Lavin. I thought he did about as well as we could expect. I know he wasn't a great coach and was an annoying self promoter but outside of a clear upgrade or Chris Mullin or Walter Berry being hired I was fine keeping him as coach. But since we replaced a somewhat successful coach, we have to give this one more than 2 years before we start bitching.
Tim Cluess has much less of a shot to turn this around.

If Mullin was given another year. Staff stays the same. How do you think we do next year?

And pretty sure outside of maybe losing every remaining game and mass transfer outs Mullin will be back next year.

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 01:10:39 PM

Quote from: TONYD3 on January 09, 2018, 01:04:05 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 12:40:58 PM

Norm was over-matched and the longer he was allowed to stay the further from relevance the program was heading. It was going to take a while to remove Jarvis' stench and Norm's ineptitude. As much us I thought he was a chowder head I was fine with keeping Lavin. I thought he did about as well as we could expect. I know he wasn't a great coach and was an annoying self promoter but outside of a clear upgrade or Chris Mullin or Walter Berry being hired I was fine keeping him as coach. But since we replaced a somewhat successful coach, we have to give this one more than 2 years before we start bitching.
Tim Cluess has much less of a shot to turn this around.

If Mullin was given another year. Staff stays the same. How do you think we do next year?

And pretty sure outside of maybe losing every remaining game and mass transfer outs Mullin will be back next year.

 I think outside of Pitt scandal part 2 Mullin is back next year.

Quote from: Celtics11 on January 09, 2018, 12:18:02 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 09, 2018, 11:52:02 AM

Quote from: rdstr25 on January 09, 2018, 11:44:35 AM

If Mullin does not work out, no one will be surprised.  It was a gamble and a half, by an administration who saw $$ signs because the face of the program wanted to bring us back to relevancy.  There was little to no search once Mullin wanted to come on board.  Look at the leagues coaching salaries, other than Mullin, only a few other guys make 2 million or more, Cooley and Wright.  If the school is willing to pay Mullin more than 70% of the league, and make him one of the highest paid coaches, then they can figure out a way to bring in a qualified assistant from a top program to become HC at a competitive salary.

And a qualified assistant at a top program will want to come here why?
Not sure school has resources to be competitive in major conference anymore. Which is why they took a gamble on Chris Mullin.

You claim the posters that are critical are being too negative but we all feel St. John's CAN be very successful. You are the one that is truly negative with your woe is me it's just impossible for us to be successful.

Be successful how ? By bitching about the current coach then turning on next one after 2years?
What is successful? By our standards Lavin was successful and no one liked him.

Trust the process? This is not exactly the same process that Nick Saban uses. 

Quote from: Celtics11 on January 09, 2018, 08:49:37 PM

Trust the process? This is not exactly the same process that Nick Saban uses. 

This is the process of a proctologist starting his procedure but both hands are on your shoulders...

Quote from: nudginator59 on January 10, 2018, 12:11:54 AM

Quote from: Celtics11 on January 09, 2018, 08:49:37 PM

Trust the process? This is not exactly the same process that Nick Saban uses. 

This is the process of a proctologist starting his procedure but both hands are on your shoulders...

LOL You seem to have the same doctor that I do.


Big hands, cold fingers, went to Syracuse?


....This team needs to get better, because these jokes will only get worse...It’s only January...barely in double digits in January...

By our standards Lavin was successful and no one liked him.