Chris Mullin's seat getting hotter?

The only recruit he has appeared to really put time and effort into over the last 6 months has been Brown and we know that was a pipe dream. I don't know obviously what he does day to day, but if he was more active I'm sure it would have been reported.

It is laziness...how else are we suppose to view this?

Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

Quote from: Aknel79 on April 03, 2018, 05:01:37 AM

Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

This is the baffling part.  Mullin learning how to be a HC was expected.  But this is a guy whose reputation is built off hard work and uber competitiveness.  And we know he bleeds SJU and wants to turn this around badly.  So why the hell would he be apathetic?  It just doesn't make any sense.

I agree.

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Quote from: Aknel79 on April 03, 2018, 05:01:37 AM

Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

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This is the baffling part.  Mullin learning how to be a HC was expected.  But this is a guy whose reputation is built off hard work and uber competitiveness.  And we know he bleeds SJU and wants to turn this around badly.  So why the hell would he be apathetic?  It just doesn't make any sense.

I agree.

It's arrogance. He knows he needs to get good players and it appears he is relying on name recognition alone. It's not working. He and Richmond need to use their name and go out there and build relationships. 

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Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

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Quote from: Aknel79 on April 03, 2018, 05:01:37 AM

Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

Ponds comes back they make the tourney.

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Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

Ponds comes back they make the tourney.

I highly doubt it.

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Quote from: Aknel79 on April 03, 2018, 05:01:37 AM

Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

Ponds comes back they make the tourney.

I highly doubt it.

I guess you will be disappointed. Don't worry the year after we will probably stink. That should cheer you up

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Quote from: paultzman on April 03, 2018, 08:40:54 AM

Quote from: Aknel79 on April 03, 2018, 05:01:37 AM

Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

Ponds comes back they make the tourney.

I highly doubt it.

I guess you will be disappointed. Don't worry the year after we will probably stink. That should cheer you up

You're right I'll be disappointed when we stink again because our coach was too lazy to recruit 2 grad transfer bigs because he has to make his appearances at Warriors games.

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Quote from: paultzman on April 03, 2018, 08:40:54 AM

Quote from: Aknel79 on April 03, 2018, 05:01:37 AM

Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

Ponds comes back they make the tourney.

I highly doubt it.

I guess you will be disappointed. Don't worry the year after we will probably stink. That should cheer you up

You're right I'll be disappointed when we stink again because our coach was too lazy to recruit 2 grad transfer bigs because he has to make his appearances at Warriors games.

What is more realistic? Guy whose whole life is built around working hard came back to the place that helped make him and suddenly decided to stop working. OR it is hard for anyone to recruit here legally and both him and everyone's favorite midget recruiting plan is not sound? 2nd choice might not make you feel better but it is the correct choice.

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

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Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

Ponds comes back they make the tourney.

I highly doubt it.

I guess you will be disappointed. Don't worry the year after we will probably stink. That should cheer you up

You're right I'll be disappointed when we stink again because our coach was too lazy to recruit 2 grad transfer bigs because he has to make his appearances at Warriors games.

What is more realistic? Guy whose whole life is built around working hard came back to the place that helped make him and suddenly decided to stop working. OR it is hard for anyone to recruit here legally and both him and everyone's favorite midget recruiting plan is not sound? 2nd choice might not make you feel better but it is the correct choice.

I wouldn't even be mad if you heard that he was out at different HS gyms and AAU games every week. But he just seems apathetic. It's one thing to not be able to recruit its a whole other thing not to try at all.

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

The other issue is player development. I'm not sure if its Mullin and/or Richmond who is responsible for that. 

You're right I'll be disappointed when we stink again because our coach was too lazy to recruit 2 grad transfer bigs because he has to make his appearances at Warriors games.

Good point, that was a critical two hours.

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Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

The other issue is player development. I'm not sure if its Mullin and/or Richmond who is responsible for that. 

Mullin's biggest failure last year was not being able to convince Lovett not to be a dick.

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

You post the same thing over and over. What does that say about you.

Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

You need to take a break to get your mind straight. Between your knocking of our All-American Ponds to drivel about mid-majors, you are losing it.

We aren't setup to recruit the kids you described. Our talent pool consists of kids from or near big cities who are athletic and play fast. We aren't in Wisconsin or Nebraska like Marquette and Creighton. We don't have amazing academics like Georgetown. We need to be creative to get transfers and land a star or two like Ponds.

How can you love Simon so much and then turn around and say we need to recruit skilled shooters?! Simon is the antithesis of what you just described. He is the antithesis of the Villanova player.