18-19 Season

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #180 on: November 12, 2018, 09:52:33 PM »
Possible BK tourney opponent VCU running Bowling Green out of the gym tn, up 18 early 2nd half.

72-61 Final. BG outscored them 33-30 on the second half.

VCU will be tough. Temple probably even tougher.

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #181 on: November 12, 2018, 10:02:11 PM »
72-61 Final. BG outscored them 33-30 on the second half.

VCU will be tough. Temple probably even tougher.
Temple 17-16. 8-10 on conference. What am I missing?

Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #182 on: November 13, 2018, 12:39:44 AM »
Temple 17-16. 8-10 on conference. What am I missing?

What are you missing?  Enough to fill an ocean.  Temple...You know: John Chaney, Philly Big 5, 32 Ncaa appearances, 8 elite eights, 2 final fours, 2 Nit titles, but besides that...not much.

Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #183 on: November 13, 2018, 12:41:06 AM »
What are you missing?  Enough to fill an ocean.  Temple...You know: John Chaney, Philly Big 5, 32 Ncaa appearances, 8 elite eights, 2 final fours, 2 Nit titles, but besides that...not much.
John Chaney still coaching Temple? Do we still have Lou?

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #184 on: November 13, 2018, 04:41:33 AM »
What are you missing?  Enough to fill an ocean.  Temple...You know: John Chaney, Philly Big 5, 32 Ncaa appearances, 8 elite eights, 2 final fours, 2 Nit titles, but besides that...not much.
That’s a great point. Is Jason Kidd still playing for cal? How do you think we stop him ?

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #185 on: November 13, 2018, 07:46:44 AM »
What am I missing?

It would take me months to properly answer that question.

As far as Temple is concerned, they were in the NIT last year and ranked #52 in the RPI last year. Mighty St. John's was not invited to the NIT and was #95 in the RPI. Georgetown, who we lost to twice, was #146. DePaul was #185 and Rutgers was #200 and we lost to both.

I have us losing to one of Temple and Princeton and one of Cal/Rutgers/Ga Tech. Hopefully they just end up being scares, but to look down on any of the high majors we have left would be a huge mistake.

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #186 on: November 13, 2018, 07:54:16 AM »
That’s a great point. Is Jason Kidd still playing for cal? How do you think we stop him ?

We'll rotate Barkley and Artest on him🙄

Cal has made the tournament 5x since 2009.

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #187 on: November 13, 2018, 08:22:08 AM »
What are you missing?  Enough to fill an ocean.  Temple...You know: John Chaney, Philly Big 5, 32 Ncaa appearances, 8 elite eights, 2 final fours, 2 Nit titles, but besides that...not much.

Gee, that sounds awfully familiar. Remember when...

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #188 on: November 13, 2018, 08:30:05 AM »
This schedule is not what an upperclassmen led team should be playing. We do not pull our weight in the BE conference. If we’re not going to challenge ourselves when Shamorie Ponds, the best player we’ve had in 9 years (ok, probably longer) is a junior and we’ve got a supporting cast made up of potentially 3 or 4 All BE players then when will we? This team isn’t so new. 6 guys have practiced together for over a year.

A team that is afraid they’ll miss the NIT plays this schedule. Paging Norm Roberts. We’ve stacked the deck in our favor so much so that even a mediocre BE record will leave us with 18 or 19 wins, and a 2 seed in the other tournament.

Sure, none of it will matter if we go off in BE play, but I think the pre season prediction folks have underestimated Xavier, Creighton, Butler and even Seton Hall. These are programs who lost significant talent and can justify playing a weaker schedule. By BE play, their coaches will have them ready to play. Some of them already do.
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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #189 on: November 13, 2018, 10:49:50 AM »
John Chaney still coaching Temple? Do we still have Lou?

No, but perhaps whoever the heck is coaching them now is good.  Or perhaps he's at least as good or better than our coach and it'll be a competitive matchup with them.


And No again but we have the next best thing.  Chris.

Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #190 on: November 13, 2018, 10:52:44 AM »
That’s a great point. Is Jason Kidd still playing for cal? How do you think we stop him ?

No, but perhaps they have some other good player/players.  Maybe even someone of Nba caliber and it will be a competitive matchup.

Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #191 on: November 13, 2018, 10:58:28 AM »
This schedule is not what an upperclassmen led team should be playing. We do not pull our weight in the BE conference. If we’re not going to challenge ourselves when Shamorie Ponds, the best player we’ve had in 9 years (ok, probably longer) is a junior and we’ve got a supporting cast made up of potentially 3 or 4 All BE players then when will we? This team isn’t so new. 6 guys have practiced together for over a year.

A team that is afraid they’ll miss the NIT plays this schedule. Paging Norm Roberts. We’ve stacked the deck in our favor so much so that even a mediocre BE record will leave us with 18 or 19 wins, and a 2 seed in the other tournament.

Sure, none of it will matter if we go off in BE play, but I think the pre season prediction folks have underestimated Xavier, Creighton, Butler and even Seton Hall. These are programs who lost significant talent and can justify playing a weaker schedule. By BE play, their coaches will have them ready to play. Some of them already do.

Hamsho wasn't on the team when the schedule was made.

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #192 on: November 13, 2018, 11:01:24 AM »
Hamsho wasn't on the team when the schedule was made.

It’s year 4. Without or without Heron, it’s time to take the training wheels off.

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #193 on: November 13, 2018, 11:06:59 AM »
Hamsho wasn't on the team when the schedule was made.

Neither was Figueroa or Heron, but it won't stop these babies from whining. Everything has to be one extreme or the other on these forums. Either a great schedule or an embarrassment. In reality it's not strong and it's not weak...I think it's damn near perfect for the group we have. We have to claw our way to 20 wins first and foremost. We were awful last year and we need to be good and then tournament worthy before we can be a great team that looks down on the likes of a top 60 RPI A-10 team and a road game at a Big Ten school.

Roberts had to get some damn minutes and he can't do that scraping by teams.

Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #194 on: November 13, 2018, 11:34:11 AM »
It’s year 4. Without or without Heron, it’s time to take the training wheels off.

I'll be more than pleased if we just beat the teams in front of us.

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #195 on: November 13, 2018, 11:50:41 AM »
Neither was Figueroa or Heron, but it won't stop these babies from whining. Everything has to be one extreme or the other on these forums. Either a great schedule or an embarrassment. In reality it's not strong and it's not weak...I think it's damn near perfect for the group we have. We have to claw our way to 20 wins first and foremost. We were awful last year and we need to be good and then tournament worthy before we can be a great team that looks down on the likes of a top 60 RPI A-10 team and a road game at a Big Ten school.

Roberts had to get some damn minutes and he can't do that scraping by teams.

We are scraping by teams.

Roberts and Earlington didn’t play against BG, and they barely played against Loyola.

But now we should expect them to get burn on the road at RU? Come on.

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #196 on: November 13, 2018, 12:42:38 PM »
We are scraping by teams.

Roberts and Earlington didn’t play against BG, and they barely played against Loyola.

But now we should expect them to get burn on the road at RU? Come on.

I don't expect him to get minutes at Rutgers. Was that not clear? He won't get minutes early unless we go up 15 on teams. That likely won't happen against good teams...hence the need to schedule cupcakes. Getting Roberts up to 5-6 minutes per game caliber by January/February would really help this team.

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #197 on: November 13, 2018, 12:58:21 PM »
I don't expect him to get minutes at Rutgers. Was that not clear? He won't get minutes early unless we go up 15 on teams. That likely won't happen against good teams...hence the need to schedule cupcakes. Getting Roberts up to 5-6 minutes per game caliber by January/February would really help this team.

Nov 27th is the next game I see Roberts and Earlington getting into.

The problem with Rutgers and Cal is that they are horrible losses should we lose, and we’ll get zero credit for winning.

If the strategy is we play cup cakes to get the new guys burn, it’s not working out that way. The returning players still need a ton of work on both ends of the floor.

The point is that this strategy wasn’t very well thought out.

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Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #198 on: November 13, 2018, 01:48:53 PM »
If the strategy is we play cup cakes to get the new guys burn, it’s not working out that way.

The new guys have played 196 minutes, versus the returnees' 208.

Re: 18-19 Season
« Reply #199 on: November 13, 2018, 01:56:27 PM »
The new guys have played 196 minutes, versus the returnees' 208.

Would have been nice to get Roberts some real burn but I imagine he has not impressed in practice since despite Keita being ineffective / hurt he still hasn't played.