Senior Night: Game 30, Butler

Also anyone else a little concerned about Ponds not playing? Seemed a little Marcus Lovett-esque. Know one knew he was injured until minutes before the game then he's out.... May be reading a little too much into this, but I'm a little concerned.

Quote from: thetruth8734 on March 01, 2018, 01:35:20 AM

Also anyone else a little concerned about Ponds not playing? Seemed a little Marcus Lovett-esque. Know one knew he was injured until minutes before the game then he's out.... May be reading a little too much into this, but I'm a little concerned.

Supposedly, the staff knew a few days in advance that Ponds wouldn't be available for Butler.  They kept it close to the vest, so Butler would have to prepare as if Ponds was playing.

One of most ridiculous games I've seen... horrible coaching, blow 12 point lead, Simon hot and cold, offensive rebounds galore for Butler, how did we make it to OT, blow 6 point lead in OT, premature celebrating. This had it all...

Quote from: TheVig on February 28, 2018, 11:35:38 PM

One of most ridiculous games I've seen... horrible coaching, blow 12 point lead, Simon hot and cold, offensive rebounds galore for Butler, how did we make it to OT, blow 6 point lead in OT, premature celebrating. This had it all...

Yes it had it all. Horrible fans included.

What could yakwe have done wrong? He isn’t great. But cmon

Quote from: fordham96 on February 28, 2018, 11:33:03 PM

That court long pass by Butler was a HUGE brain fart.  And Clark almost screwed up by going after it.

I didn't have a problem with Clark chasing it down because you never know if Martin can save it and maintain possession.  It was just nearly a heckuva play by Martin.  Clark should've attempted to run in front of Martin without totally impeding or fouling Martin.

It worked out for us but did anyone else think we should have gotten the ball under our own basket where Butler made the pass? At the game you get no information.

Also anyone else a little concerned about Ponds not playing? Seemed a little Marcus Lovett-esque. Know one knew he was injured until minutes before the game then he's out.... May be reading a little too much into this, but I'm a little concerned.

Quote from: mjdinkins on February 28, 2018, 11:39:22 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on February 28, 2018, 11:33:03 PM

That court long pass by Butler was a HUGE brain fart.  And Clark almost screwed up by going after it.

I didn't have a problem with Clark chasing it down because you never know if Martin can save it and maintain possession.  It was just nearly a heckuva play by Martin.  Clark should've attempted to run in front of Martin without totally impeding or fouling Martin.

It worked out for us but did anyone else think we should have gotten the ball under our own basket where Butler made the pass? At the game you get no information.

It worked out for us but did anyone else think we should have gotten the ball under our own basket where Butler made the pass? At the game you get no information.

Quote from: thetruth8734 on March 01, 2018, 01:35:20 AM

Also anyone else a little concerned about Ponds not playing? Seemed a little Marcus Lovett-esque. Know one knew he was injured until minutes before the game then he's out.... May be reading a little too much into this, but I'm a little concerned.

Nope. Apparently he wasn't supposed to play Saturday but did.

Quote from: Mullin20 on March 01, 2018, 08:57:18 AM

Quote from: thetruth8734 on March 01, 2018, 01:35:20 AM

Also anyone else a little concerned about Ponds not playing? Seemed a little Marcus Lovett-esque. Know one knew he was injured until minutes before the game then he's out.... May be reading a little too much into this, but I'm a little concerned.

Nope. Apparently he wasn't supposed to play Saturday but did.

I would sit him against Providence just to be safe for BET

Quote from: TONYD3 on February 28, 2018, 11:14:56 PM

What could yakwe have done wrong? He isn’t great. But cmon

He obviously told them he wasn't coming back and got buried for it.

Quote from: fordham96 on February 28, 2018, 11:33:03 PM

That court long pass by Butler was a HUGE brain fart.  And Clark almost screwed up by going after it.

I didn't have a problem with Clark chasing it down because you never know if Martin can save it and maintain possession.  It was just nearly a heckuva play by Martin.  Clark should've attempted to run in front of Martin without totally impeding or fouling Martin.

Sadly I did leave but it was down 5 with 17 seconds left

Quote from: Mullin20 on March 01, 2018, 08:57:18 AM

Quote from: thetruth8734 on March 01, 2018, 01:35:20 AM

Also anyone else a little concerned about Ponds not playing? Seemed a little Marcus Lovett-esque. Know one knew he was injured until minutes before the game then he's out.... May be reading a little too much into this, but I'm a little concerned.

Nope. Apparently he wasn't supposed to play Saturday but did.

I would sit him against Providence just to be safe for BET

Quote from: mjdinkins on February 28, 2018, 11:39:22 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on February 28, 2018, 11:33:03 PM

That court long pass by Butler was a HUGE brain fart.  And Clark almost screwed up by going after it.

I didn't have a problem with Clark chasing it down because you never know if Martin can save it and maintain possession.  It was just nearly a heckuva play by Martin.  Clark should've attempted to run in front of Martin without totally impeding or fouling Martin.

I don't have a problem with the hustle but he should have realized not to get close because Martin was dead, the ball was either going to go out of bounds on its own or he was going to simply save it to Clark assuming Clark did not get too close.  No way from that angle would he have been able to get a full grip an toss it very far.

Quote from: fordham96 on March 01, 2018, 09:49:04 AM

Quote from: mjdinkins on February 28, 2018, 11:39:22 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on February 28, 2018, 11:33:03 PM

That court long pass by Butler was a HUGE brain fart.  And Clark almost screwed up by going after it.

I didn't have a problem with Clark chasing it down because you never know if Martin can save it and maintain possession.  It was just nearly a heckuva play by Martin.  Clark should've attempted to run in front of Martin without totally impeding or fouling Martin.

I don't have a problem with the hustle but he should have realized not to get close because Martin was dead, the ball was either going to go out of bounds on its own or he was going to simply save it to Clark assuming Clark did not get too close.  No way from that angle would he have been able to get a full grip an toss it very far.

They should equip players with a slide rule and a protractor so they can make these delicate split second calculations. 

Quote from: we are sju on March 01, 2018, 09:08:40 AM

Quote from: Mullin20 on March 01, 2018, 08:57:18 AM

Quote from: thetruth8734 on March 01, 2018, 01:35:20 AM

Also anyone else a little concerned about Ponds not playing? Seemed a little Marcus Lovett-esque. Know one knew he was injured until minutes before the game then he's out.... May be reading a little too much into this, but I'm a little concerned.

Nope. Apparently he wasn't supposed to play Saturday but did.

I would sit him against Providence just to be safe for BET

Here is the problem.  The PC game is huge now if SJU wants to make the NIT.  Why? Because I don't believe as an NIT at large will they choose a team under .500 overall.  Think about it, they lose to PC, they finish 15-16.  Even if they beat Georgetown and say lose to Xavier they finish 16-17.

Even with a decent RPI the under .500 is going to kill them.  They almost need to win the PC game.  PC game becomes the swing game, 15-16 or 16-15.  16-15 and win or lose to Georgetown they will finish .500 or better.

Quote from: Foad on March 01, 2018, 09:53:03 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on March 01, 2018, 09:49:04 AM

Quote from: mjdinkins on February 28, 2018, 11:39:22 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on February 28, 2018, 11:33:03 PM

That court long pass by Butler was a HUGE brain fart.  And Clark almost screwed up by going after it.

I didn't have a problem with Clark chasing it down because you never know if Martin can save it and maintain possession.  It was just nearly a heckuva play by Martin.  Clark should've attempted to run in front of Martin without totally impeding or fouling Martin.

I don't have a problem with the hustle but he should have realized not to get close because Martin was dead, the ball was either going to go out of bounds on its own or he was going to simply save it to Clark assuming Clark did not get too close.  No way from that angle would he have been able to get a full grip an toss it very far.

They should equip players with a slide rule and a protractor so they can make these delicate split second calculations. 

I can provide that.  BTW-Wally S agreed with me last night.

Quote from: fordham96 on March 01, 2018, 09:52:23 AM

Quote from: we are sju on March 01, 2018, 09:08:40 AM

Quote from: Mullin20 on March 01, 2018, 08:57:18 AM

Quote from: thetruth8734 on March 01, 2018, 01:35:20 AM

Also anyone else a little concerned about Ponds not playing? Seemed a little Marcus Lovett-esque. Know one knew he was injured until minutes before the game then he's out.... May be reading a little too much into this, but I'm a little concerned.

Nope. Apparently he wasn't supposed to play Saturday but did.

I would sit him against Providence just to be safe for BET

Here is the problem.  The PC game is huge now if SJU wants to make the NIT.  Why? Because I don't believe as an NIT at large will they choose a team under .500 overall.  Think about it, they lose to PC, they finish 15-16.  Even if they beat Georgetown and say lose to Xavier they finish 16-17.

Even with a decent RPI the under .500 is going to kill them.  They almost need to win the PC game.  PC game becomes the swing game, 15-16 or 16-15.  16-15 and win or lose to Georgetown they will finish .500 or better.

Yeah I thought about that but....
Would have to win at Providence and at least 1st game in BET to be 17-15 and if we lose next game 17-16. Do we get in at 17-16?
I would rather take shot at winning BET. I know is far fetched but if anyone can pull off a Gerry McNamara I would bet on Ponds.