Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier

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Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #160 on: March 09, 2018, 01:40:50 AM »
The team was flat.

Our fans were flat.

The beer was not flat.

8 months of a sporting black hole lie ahead.  Ugghh!!!

Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #161 on: March 09, 2018, 02:04:59 AM »
I stopped watching at about the 5 min mark and missed all the hoopla. Xavier's been a bunch of punks since they came in the league.

And before that, if you recall that nasty brawl with Cincy a few years ago.

Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #162 on: March 09, 2018, 09:23:09 AM »
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I Took On The Challenge & I’m Not Running From It... I’ll Be Here REDSTORMNATION!! #StormSZN #DifferenceMaker @tonyrossimd

Confirmation of a return?

You bet your arse. I knew it. Love this kid.
Owens is a bit more iffy, but it'd be a weak move to run from a team that you are such a big part of that has showed so much promise in the last 5 weeks.

I'd also ask Yakwe to stay and take a redshirt.


Why in the world would we continue to use a scholarship on a guy that couldn't find his way on the court when we had 7 players, one of which being Amar Alibegovic. He couldn't get burn over Justin Cole.

He has gotten worse over the past 3 years. He isn't going to get any better and you want to tie up a scholarship for 2 years in the hope that by some miracle he puts it together and contributes 2 years from now. And he even he does get better, his ceiling is still around that of a random JUCO big.

Continuity. Yakwe was a top 75 kid and he lost more than half a season as a frosh. We haven't had a capable big man coach either. The kid went for 16 and 15 against Delgado as a freshman. There is something there that a new coach could tap into.

We lose Clark and Owens after next season, leaving us with two sophs and a junior coming off his first year playing for us in the front court. Do you really want to go into 2019 with Keita, Earlington, and Roberts as our veterans up front?



Since he frosh season he has sucked.
But he probably doesn't suck as bad as Alibegovic and a walkon. Something clearly going on there.

Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #163 on: March 09, 2018, 09:24:52 AM »
I stopped watching at about the 5 min mark and missed all the hoopla. Xavier's been a bunch of punks since they came in the league.

And before that, if you recall that nasty brawl with Cincy a few years ago.

Chris Mack looks like someone the peers in your back window. I am serious if I saw him loitering on my block I would call the cops.

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Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #164 on: March 09, 2018, 12:23:57 PM »
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I Took On The Challenge & I’m Not Running From It... I’ll Be Here REDSTORMNATION!! #StormSZN #DifferenceMaker @tonyrossimd

Confirmation of a return?

You bet your arse. I knew it. Love this kid.
Owens is a bit more iffy, but it'd be a weak move to run from a team that you are such a big part of that has showed so much promise in the last 5 weeks.

I'd also ask Yakwe to stay and take a redshirt.


Why in the world would we continue to use a scholarship on a guy that couldn't find his way on the court when we had 7 players, one of which being Amar Alibegovic. He couldn't get burn over Justin Cole.

He has gotten worse over the past 3 years. He isn't going to get any better and you want to tie up a scholarship for 2 years in the hope that by some miracle he puts it together and contributes 2 years from now. And he even he does get better, his ceiling is still around that of a random JUCO big.

Continuity. Yakwe was a top 75 kid and he lost more than half a season as a frosh. We haven't had a capable big man coach either. The kid went for 16 and 15 against Delgado as a freshman. There is something there that a new coach could tap into.

We lose Clark and Owens after next season, leaving us with two sophs and a junior coming off his first year playing for us in the front court. Do you really want to go into 2019 with Keita, Earlington, and Roberts as our veterans up front?



Pretty sure every sentence there is completely absurd. Let break it down.

Continuity? That's nice in theory but there it's not magic dust. If the team from 2 years ago played together for 10 years in a row they'd never win more than 3 Big East games. Continuity doesn't count for much when the players stink.

Yakwe missed 6 out of 32 games as a Frosh. That is 18.75% of the games. That is far less than half the season.

How many college programs actually have capable big men coaches? There are coaches that work with big men, sure, but I wouldn't think there are too many programs that have true big men coaches.

Yes, he went for 16 and 15 against Seton Hall as a Freshman, but like everybody else on that team, he was generally terrible for most of the season. He had a poor shooting percentage for a big, wasn't a particularly good rebounder and couldn't play D without fouling. Most chalked his terrible FG% up to having no talent around him which was fair at that time, but it has not improved in the following two seasons, in fact it got worse.

A new coach? I assume you mean assistant, but who out there can we bring in that has experience transforming terrible undersized bigs into serviceable players?

With all the ridiculousness in the first paragraph, the second paragraph might be dumber. In this era of college basketball it is impossible to guess what the roster is going to look like 2 years in advance. Assuming that the only bigs in the program at that time are Keita, Earlington and Roberts because they are the only ones on the board now is crazy. What is we pick up another sit-out transfer this offseason? How about a grad transfer 2 years from now? Or a kid who decommits from a school that just fired their coach decides to come here?

The only thing dumber than Yakwe actually agreeing to stay and take a redshirt year is offering that to him in the first place. That scholarship could be better used on a ton of other players

I approach the roster as a former coach. I wouldn't want to lose a kid I invested three years of coaching in. I always want veterans around in the front court since bigs take so long to develop. It's not uncommon for guys to be trash for three years and then solid as a senior.

Continuity is extremely important even if it doesn't translate into a kid producing tangible benefits on the court. Having someone that knows the drills, routines, etc. is a huge benefit for younger guys. I don't know if Yakwe is thad kind of teammate.

No big man has improved under this staff. I think we'll add an assistant who will change that and I anticipate more zone. Yakwe was made for the zone. I think he could be a solid piece with 15 lbs of muscle and some coaching. I am not comfortable with a front court of Keita and two competent unknown 3* recruits manning the ship in 2019. If you can get a Clark tyoe transfer then I'd feel better losing Yakwe.
I didn’t think Yakwe was so bad that he should get zero burn. I don’t know what is happening behind the scenes. But we would be better off w a transfer then keeping Yakwe.  A  2 year investment on someone that couldn’t get burn over Cole doesn’t sit well w me. The fact that he couldn’t play over Amar in itself says something.

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Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #165 on: March 09, 2018, 12:41:54 PM »
@Marv_Time13
I Took On The Challenge & I’m Not Running From It... I’ll Be Here REDSTORMNATION!! #StormSZN #DifferenceMaker @tonyrossimd

Confirmation of a return?

You bet your arse. I knew it. Love this kid.
Owens is a bit more iffy, but it'd be a weak move to run from a team that you are such a big part of that has showed so much promise in the last 5 weeks.

I'd also ask Yakwe to stay and take a redshirt.


Why in the world would we continue to use a scholarship on a guy that couldn't find his way on the court when we had 7 players, one of which being Amar Alibegovic. He couldn't get burn over Justin Cole.

He has gotten worse over the past 3 years. He isn't going to get any better and you want to tie up a scholarship for 2 years in the hope that by some miracle he puts it together and contributes 2 years from now. And he even he does get better, his ceiling is still around that of a random JUCO big.

Continuity. Yakwe was a top 75 kid and he lost more than half a season as a frosh. We haven't had a capable big man coach either. The kid went for 16 and 15 against Delgado as a freshman. There is something there that a new coach could tap into.

We lose Clark and Owens after next season, leaving us with two sophs and a junior coming off his first year playing for us in the front court. Do you really want to go into 2019 with Keita, Earlington, and Roberts as our veterans up front?



Pretty sure every sentence there is completely absurd. Let break it down.

Continuity? That's nice in theory but there it's not magic dust. If the team from 2 years ago played together for 10 years in a row they'd never win more than 3 Big East games. Continuity doesn't count for much when the players stink.

Yakwe missed 6 out of 32 games as a Frosh. That is 18.75% of the games. That is far less than half the season.

How many college programs actually have capable big men coaches? There are coaches that work with big men, sure, but I wouldn't think there are too many programs that have true big men coaches.

Yes, he went for 16 and 15 against Seton Hall as a Freshman, but like everybody else on that team, he was generally terrible for most of the season. He had a poor shooting percentage for a big, wasn't a particularly good rebounder and couldn't play D without fouling. Most chalked his terrible FG% up to having no talent around him which was fair at that time, but it has not improved in the following two seasons, in fact it got worse.

A new coach? I assume you mean assistant, but who out there can we bring in that has experience transforming terrible undersized bigs into serviceable players?

With all the ridiculousness in the first paragraph, the second paragraph might be dumber. In this era of college basketball it is impossible to guess what the roster is going to look like 2 years in advance. Assuming that the only bigs in the program at that time are Keita, Earlington and Roberts because they are the only ones on the board now is crazy. What is we pick up another sit-out transfer this offseason? How about a grad transfer 2 years from now? Or a kid who decommits from a school that just fired their coach decides to come here?

The only thing dumber than Yakwe actually agreeing to stay and take a redshirt year is offering that to him in the first place. That scholarship could be better used on a ton of other players

I approach the roster as a former coach. I wouldn't want to lose a kid I invested three years of coaching in. I always want veterans around in the front court since bigs take so long to develop. It's not uncommon for guys to be trash for three years and then solid as a senior.

Continuity is extremely important even if it doesn't translate into a kid producing tangible benefits on the court. Having someone that knows the drills, routines, etc. is a huge benefit for younger guys. I don't know if Yakwe is thad kind of teammate.

No big man has improved under this staff. I think we'll add an assistant who will change that and I anticipate more zone. Yakwe was made for the zone. I think he could be a solid piece with 15 lbs of muscle and some coaching. I am not comfortable with a front court of Keita and two competent unknown 3* recruits manning the ship in 2019. If you can get a Clark tyoe transfer then I'd feel better losing Yakwe.
I didn’t think Yakwe was so bad that he should get zero burn. I don’t know what is happening behind the scenes. But we would be better off w a transfer then keeping Yakwe.  A  2 year investment on someone that couldn’t get burn over Cole doesn’t sit well w me. The fact that he couldn’t play over Amar in itself says something.

Won't have  to worry about that much longer. Yakwe will move on. Certainly I thought he should have gotten some time, but often your PT is dictated by how hard you practice. Perhaps that was an issue.

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Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #166 on: March 09, 2018, 02:27:34 PM »
@Marv_Time13
I Took On The Challenge & I’m Not Running From It... I’ll Be Here REDSTORMNATION!! #StormSZN #DifferenceMaker @tonyrossimd

Confirmation of a return?

You bet your arse. I knew it. Love this kid.
Owens is a bit more iffy, but it'd be a weak move to run from a team that you are such a big part of that has showed so much promise in the last 5 weeks.

I'd also ask Yakwe to stay and take a redshirt.


Why in the world would we continue to use a scholarship on a guy that couldn't find his way on the court when we had 7 players, one of which being Amar Alibegovic. He couldn't get burn over Justin Cole.

He has gotten worse over the past 3 years. He isn't going to get any better and you want to tie up a scholarship for 2 years in the hope that by some miracle he puts it together and contributes 2 years from now. And he even he does get better, his ceiling is still around that of a random JUCO big.

Continuity. Yakwe was a top 75 kid and he lost more than half a season as a frosh. We haven't had a capable big man coach either. The kid went for 16 and 15 against Delgado as a freshman. There is something there that a new coach could tap into.

We lose Clark and Owens after next season, leaving us with two sophs and a junior coming off his first year playing for us in the front court. Do you really want to go into 2019 with Keita, Earlington, and Roberts as our veterans up front?



Pretty sure every sentence there is completely absurd. Let break it down.

Continuity? That's nice in theory but there it's not magic dust. If the team from 2 years ago played together for 10 years in a row they'd never win more than 3 Big East games. Continuity doesn't count for much when the players stink.

Yakwe missed 6 out of 32 games as a Frosh. That is 18.75% of the games. That is far less than half the season.

How many college programs actually have capable big men coaches? There are coaches that work with big men, sure, but I wouldn't think there are too many programs that have true big men coaches.

Yes, he went for 16 and 15 against Seton Hall as a Freshman, but like everybody else on that team, he was generally terrible for most of the season. He had a poor shooting percentage for a big, wasn't a particularly good rebounder and couldn't play D without fouling. Most chalked his terrible FG% up to having no talent around him which was fair at that time, but it has not improved in the following two seasons, in fact it got worse.

A new coach? I assume you mean assistant, but who out there can we bring in that has experience transforming terrible undersized bigs into serviceable players?

With all the ridiculousness in the first paragraph, the second paragraph might be dumber. In this era of college basketball it is impossible to guess what the roster is going to look like 2 years in advance. Assuming that the only bigs in the program at that time are Keita, Earlington and Roberts because they are the only ones on the board now is crazy. What is we pick up another sit-out transfer this offseason? How about a grad transfer 2 years from now? Or a kid who decommits from a school that just fired their coach decides to come here?

The only thing dumber than Yakwe actually agreeing to stay and take a redshirt year is offering that to him in the first place. That scholarship could be better used on a ton of other players

I approach the roster as a former coach. I wouldn't want to lose a kid I invested three years of coaching in. I always want veterans around in the front court since bigs take so long to develop. It's not uncommon for guys to be trash for three years and then solid as a senior.

Continuity is extremely important even if it doesn't translate into a kid producing tangible benefits on the court. Having someone that knows the drills, routines, etc. is a huge benefit for younger guys. I don't know if Yakwe is thad kind of teammate.

No big man has improved under this staff. I think we'll add an assistant who will change that and I anticipate more zone. Yakwe was made for the zone. I think he could be a solid piece with 15 lbs of muscle and some coaching. I am not comfortable with a front court of Keita and two competent unknown 3* recruits manning the ship in 2019. If you can get a Clark tyoe transfer then I'd feel better losing Yakwe.
I didn’t think Yakwe was so bad that he should get zero burn. I don’t know what is happening behind the scenes. But we would be better off w a transfer then keeping Yakwe.  A  2 year investment on someone that couldn’t get burn over Cole doesn’t sit well w me. The fact that he couldn’t play over Amar in itself says something.

Won't have  to worry about that much longer. Yakwe will move on. Certainly I thought he should have gotten some time, but often your PT is dictated by how hard you practice. Perhaps that was an issue.

This is the part we don't know about. If he was a bad practice player and/or teammate then I'm fine with him moving on. As far as his on-court product, I'd like to see him redshirted. I think he can be a productive player with some weight and coaching and I always want at least one senior in the front court.

One thing is certain, with or without Yakwe we need a transfer with preferably two years of experience to sit a year and play. We cannot go into 2019 with Keita, Roberts, and Earlington as our veterans.


Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #167 on: March 09, 2018, 08:55:25 PM »
To Xavier, Chris Mack and Macura-karma is a bitch!

Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #168 on: March 09, 2018, 09:05:05 PM »
What a game. Probably better for Xavier to be a 2 seed. Take the pressure off them. Hopefully Mack enjoys his day off.
*wipes ketchup from his eyes* - I guess Heinz sight isn’t 20/20.


Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #170 on: March 10, 2018, 12:33:47 PM »
Norlander
Big East senior associate commissioner Stu Jackson told CBS Sports that the Big East is reviewing internal security footage at MSG to determine if St. John's players attempted to approach Xavier's players near or in their locker room immediately after both teams left the court.

Jesus. Where was the St.John’s staff?

Sure as shit not out recruiting.

Marley Paul
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On campus, St. John’s the host site for CHSAA semifinals. CTK vs. Hayes + Stepinac vs. Molloy.

Assistant coach Matt Abdelmassih on hand with Kofi Cockburn, Moussa Cisse, Quaran McPherson, AJ Griffin, RJ Davis in action. #sjubb


Georgetown "STAFF" last night.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX8COVVU0AAVius.jpg:large
Fire Mullin.

Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #171 on: March 10, 2018, 01:14:25 PM »
Norlander
Big East senior associate commissioner Stu Jackson told CBS Sports that the Big East is reviewing internal security footage at MSG to determine if St. John's players attempted to approach Xavier's players near or in their locker room immediately after both teams left the court.

Jesus. Where was the St.John’s staff?

Sure as shit not out recruiting.

Marley Paul
@MarleyPaul22
On campus, St. John’s the host site for CHSAA semifinals. CTK vs. Hayes + Stepinac vs. Molloy.

Assistant coach Matt Abdelmassih on hand with Kofi Cockburn, Moussa Cisse, Quaran McPherson, AJ Griffin, RJ Davis in action. #sjubb


Georgetown "STAFF" last night.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX8COVVU0AAVius.jpg:large

I saw what you did there, TIS. 

Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #172 on: March 10, 2018, 02:25:56 PM »
Norlander
Big East senior associate commissioner Stu Jackson told CBS Sports that the Big East is reviewing internal security footage at MSG to determine if St. John's players attempted to approach Xavier's players near or in their locker room immediately after both teams left the court.

Jesus. Where was the St.John’s staff?

Sure as shit not out recruiting.

Marley Paul
@MarleyPaul22
On campus, St. John’s the host site for CHSAA semifinals. CTK vs. Hayes + Stepinac vs. Molloy.

Assistant coach Matt Abdelmassih on hand with Kofi Cockburn, Moussa Cisse, Quaran McPherson, AJ Griffin, RJ Davis in action. #sjubb


Georgetown "STAFF" last night.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX8COVVU0AAVius.jpg:large

I saw what you did there, TIS. 

https://twitter.com/yaboynyp/status/972518607073628160
Fire Mullin.

Re: Game 33, BET Quarterfinals: vs. Xavier
« Reply #173 on: March 10, 2018, 02:30:09 PM »
Norlander
Big East senior associate commissioner Stu Jackson told CBS Sports that the Big East is reviewing internal security footage at MSG to determine if St. John's players attempted to approach Xavier's players near or in their locker room immediately after both teams left the court.

Jesus. Where was the St.John’s staff?

Sure as shit not out recruiting.

Marley Paul
@MarleyPaul22
On campus, St. John’s the host site for CHSAA semifinals. CTK vs. Hayes + Stepinac vs. Molloy.

Assistant coach Matt Abdelmassih on hand with Kofi Cockburn, Moussa Cisse, Quaran McPherson, AJ Griffin, RJ Davis in action. #sjubb


Georgetown "STAFF" last night.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX8COVVU0AAVius.jpg:large

I saw what you did there, TIS. 

https://twitter.com/yaboynyp/status/972518607073628160

Obviously, they're out and about.  Orr was actually in my neck-of-the-woods last month (recruiting a '19 kid, Malcolm Wilson).