Tournament Challenge Signup

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Marillac

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2018, 02:27:33 PM »
Still time to sign up to try and win second place, ladies.

Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2018, 02:39:48 PM »
Still time to sign up to try and win second place, ladies.

I'll be waiting to revea my actual bracket till tomorrow. Part of me wants to roll with the Bonnies tho

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2018, 02:44:38 PM »
Still time to sign up to try and win second place, ladies.

I'll be waiting to revea my actual bracket till tomorrow. Part of me wants to roll with the Bonnies tho

That guard (Jaylen Adams?) looks nasty. I wouldn't want to be in a close game late with them if he's on the court.

Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2018, 07:24:59 PM »
Thanks Marillac! Posted my picks.

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2018, 07:27:08 PM »
Their should be some kind of bet. 12 dollar beer or something

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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2018, 07:58:15 PM »
Baldi in

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2018, 01:00:53 AM »
Im in

Marillac

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2018, 06:27:56 AM »
Still time to get signed up.

Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2018, 12:55:38 PM »
2 people called the Buffalo upset. Nice job !

Marillac

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2018, 05:58:58 PM »
2 people called the Buffalo upset. Nice job !

I took Buffalo out of the sweet 16 at 3:31 AM because I had both them and New Mexico St. there based on my algorithm. Total rebound rank, assist rank (Buffalo 8 and 9 nationally, respectively), with shooting % ranks weighted lower and an SOS adjustment.

There are a group of teams exempt from this based on style of play (Nova, Loyola-Chicago, TCU, etc.) for those teams, I have no freaking clue.

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2018, 08:57:22 PM »
Creighton looked awful. No rebounding. No PG. what a waste of Khyri and Foster.

Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2018, 03:55:58 PM »
Iona looked better against Duke than RI. Terrell a no show

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2018, 04:53:46 PM »
Iona looked better against Duke than RI. Terrell a no show

Honestly, I'm not worried about Danny taking over at Uconn. It could very well be their respective personnel, but Bobby's teams play a better style and put up the stats that would scare me long term. Calhoun always had his guys crashing the boards. Rhode Island doesn't.

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2018, 05:03:00 PM »
Iona looked better against Duke than RI. Terrell a no show

Honestly, I'm not worried about Danny taking over at Uconn. It could very well be their respective personnel, but Bobby's teams play a better style and put up the stats that would scare me long term. Calhoun always had his guys crashing the boards. Rhode Island doesn't.

Villanova hasn’t been in the top 100 in OR% in the past 5 years. I thinks that’s worked quite well for them.

Actually, Villanova missed 1 NCAA Tournament in the past 10 years. The team that missed the tournament was their best offensive rebounding team in the past 10 years
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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2018, 05:18:24 PM »
Iona looked better against Duke than RI. Terrell a no show

Honestly, I'm not worried about Danny taking over at Uconn. It could very well be their respective personnel, but Bobby's teams play a better style and put up the stats that would scare me long term. Calhoun always had his guys crashing the boards. Rhode Island doesn't.

Villanova hasn’t been in the top 100 in OR% in the past 5 years. I thinks that’s worked quite well for them.

Actually, Villanova missed 1 NCAA Tournament in the past 10 years. The team that missed the tournament was their best offensive rebounding team in the past 10 years
Guess all we have to do is get even worse at offensive rebounding if that is even possible.  ;) :)

goredmen

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2018, 05:23:45 PM »
Iona looked better against Duke than RI. Terrell a no show

Honestly, I'm not worried about Danny taking over at Uconn. It could very well be their respective personnel, but Bobby's teams play a better style and put up the stats that would scare me long term. Calhoun always had his guys crashing the boards. Rhode Island doesn't.

Villanova hasn’t been in the top 100 in OR% in the past 5 years. I thinks that’s worked quite well for them.

Actually, Villanova missed 1 NCAA Tournament in the past 10 years. The team that missed the tournament was their best offensive rebounding team in the past 10 years
Guess all we have to do is get even worse at offensive rebounding if that is even possible.  ;) :)

Nah just pointing out how stupid of a comment saying that Danny wouldn’t scare him long term because his teams don’t crash the glass when one of the 5 best programs in the country over the past 5 years and the class of our conference doesn’t crash the glass either

Marillac

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2018, 07:13:00 PM »
Iona looked better against Duke than RI. Terrell a no show

Honestly, I'm not worried about Danny taking over at Uconn. It could very well be their respective personnel, but Bobby's teams play a better style and put up the stats that would scare me long term. Calhoun always had his guys crashing the boards. Rhode Island doesn't.

Villanova hasn’t been in the top 100 in OR% in the past 5 years. I thinks that’s worked quite well for them.

Actually, Villanova missed 1 NCAA Tournament in the past 10 years. The team that missed the tournament was their best offensive rebounding team in the past 10 years
Guess all we have to do is get even worse at offensive rebounding if that is even possible.  ;) :)

Nah just pointing out how stupid of a comment saying that Danny wouldn’t scare him long term because his teams don’t crash the glass when one of the 5 best programs in the country over the past 5 years and the class of our conference doesn’t crash the glass either
First of all, I didn't say specifically just rebounds. Second, I'm tired of coaches here that don't stress rebounding while others teams live and die by it. We've had one very good season since the early 90's and we were top ten in rebounds. Coincidence? You need talent and guards as well obviously, but there is no reason any coach can't turn is team into a string rebounding group.

Nova is on another level. 14 of the top 17 teams in assists are dancing this year and two of the ones who aren't have 27 and 20 wins. Nova is top ten. They are also #3 in the nation in FG%, 13th in 3 pt %, and 20th in FT %. They don't miss a lot of shots. Rhode Island is nowhere to be found in any of those stats or any rebounding stats. Nova does everything well.

goredmen

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2018, 07:40:46 PM »
Iona looked better against Duke than RI. Terrell a no show

Honestly, I'm not worried about Danny taking over at Uconn. It could very well be their respective personnel, but Bobby's teams play a better style and put up the stats that would scare me long term. Calhoun always had his guys crashing the boards. Rhode Island doesn't.

Villanova hasn’t been in the top 100 in OR% in the past 5 years. I thinks that’s worked quite well for them.

Actually, Villanova missed 1 NCAA Tournament in the past 10 years. The team that missed the tournament was their best offensive rebounding team in the past 10 years
Guess all we have to do is get even worse at offensive rebounding if that is even possible.  ;) :)

Nah just pointing out how stupid of a comment saying that Danny wouldn’t scare him long term because his teams don’t crash the glass when one of the 5 best programs in the country over the past 5 years and the class of our conference doesn’t crash the glass either
First of all, I didn't say specifically just rebounds. Second, I'm tired of coaches here that don't stress rebounding while others teams live and die by it. We've had one very good season since the early 90's and we were top ten in rebounds. Coincidence? You need talent and guards as well obviously, but there is no reason any coach can't turn is team into a string rebounding group.

Nova is on another level. 14 of the top 17 teams in assists are dancing this year and two of the ones who aren't have 27 and 20 wins. Nova is top ten. They are also #3 in the nation in FG%, 13th in 3 pt %, and 20th in FT %. They don't miss a lot of shots. Rhode Island is nowhere to be found in any of those stats or any rebounding stats. Nova does everything well.

I love me some offensive rebounding as well but you have to have the right personnel for it. The reason the Dukes, UNCs, MSUs, Kentucky’s of the world dominate offensive rebounding stats is because they are able to recruit the 6-6 to 6-10 guys that can jump out of the gym so of course those guys will get rebounds.

Then you have the Villanovas and Michigans that have 5 shooters on the floor and spread you out. Rhode Island did that also playing 4 guards because that’s their personnel.

The problem with just blindly sending guys for offensive rebounds regardless of your personnel is that it leaves you very vulnerable to get beat in transition. If you send 3 guys at the glass whenever a shot goes up your offensive rebounding numbers will go up but they have to go up enough where it makes up for the times you are giving up good looks in transition on the other end

Marillac

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Re: Tournament Challenge Signup
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2018, 07:52:59 PM »
Iona looked better against Duke than RI. Terrell a no show

Honestly, I'm not worried about Danny taking over at Uconn. It could very well be their respective personnel, but Bobby's teams play a better style and put up the stats that would scare me long term. Calhoun always had his guys crashing the boards. Rhode Island doesn't.

Villanova hasn’t been in the top 100 in OR% in the past 5 years. I thinks that’s worked quite well for them.

Actually, Villanova missed 1 NCAA Tournament in the past 10 years. The team that missed the tournament was their best offensive rebounding team in the past 10 years
Guess all we have to do is get even worse at offensive rebounding if that is even possible.  ;) :)

Nah just pointing out how stupid of a comment saying that Danny wouldn’t scare him long term because his teams don’t crash the glass when one of the 5 best programs in the country over the past 5 years and the class of our conference doesn’t crash the glass either
First of all, I didn't say specifically just rebounds. Second, I'm tired of coaches here that don't stress rebounding while others teams live and die by it. We've had one very good season since the early 90's and we were top ten in rebounds. Coincidence? You need talent and guards as well obviously, but there is no reason any coach can't turn is team into a string rebounding group.

Nova is on another level. 14 of the top 17 teams in assists are dancing this year and two of the ones who aren't have 27 and 20 wins. Nova is top ten. They are also #3 in the nation in FG%, 13th in 3 pt %, and 20th in FT %. They don't miss a lot of shots. Rhode Island is nowhere to be found in any of those stats or any rebounding stats. Nova does everything well.

I love me some offensive rebounding as well but you have to have the right personnel for it. The reason the Dukes, UNCs, MSUs, Kentucky’s of the world dominate offensive rebounding stats is because they are able to recruit the 6-6 to 6-10 guys that can jump out of the gym so of course those guys will get rebounds.

Then you have the Villanovas and Michigans that have 5 shooters on the floor and spread you out. Rhode Island did that also playing 4 guards because that’s their personnel.

The problem with just blindly sending guys for offensive rebounds regardless of your personnel is that it leaves you very vulnerable to get beat in transition. If you send 3 guys at the glass whenever a shot goes up your offensive rebounding numbers will go up but they have to go up enough where it makes up for the times you are giving up good looks in transition on the other end

Why are Buffalo and New Mexico St. so high then? Offensive rebounding is mostly about effort and will.  Jemerrio Jones is 6'5 180 and averages 13 rebounds per game and grabbed 14 against a very good Clemson team. He just wants it more and plays for a coach that encourages that.
We don't have Nova personnel. They can cherrypick the Josh Harts and Jalen Brunsons of the world with skill, basketball IQ, and athletic ability. We have to pick kids with one or two out of three. That's why rebounding is so important to a program like St. John's. If Eric King, Anthony Glover, and Donald Emanuel can be the #1 offensive rebounding front court in the country why can't Simon, Clark, Keita, and Roberts?

For as bad as Jarvis was, he understood that there were two things you had complete control over: (1) your kids being stronger than their opponents and (2) rebounding.
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