Keita Injury

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Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2018, 04:02:40 PM »
Plus he's a first team all time SJ sexual degenerate: Willie Glass, Bross, Grady Reynolds, E  Ingram and Abe Keita.


Not familiar with Mr Bross transgressions?

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Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2018, 04:05:39 PM »
Not familiar with Mr Bross transgressions?

Pimp: "

Earlier this week, [Bibi] Jones explained in detail how an agent (who we now know is Bross) took her out to bars with MLB players after almost every Arizona Diamondbacks game in the spring and summer of 2010.

While she wasn't expected to have sex with players, Jones slept with "over 10" guys, a "couple" of whom she believes signed with Bross."

https://www.businessinsider.com/terry-bross-porn-agent-2011-10

Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2018, 04:06:45 PM »
Pimp: "

Earlier this week, [Bibi] Jones explained in detail how an agent (who we now know is Bross) took her out to bars with MLB players after almost every Arizona Diamondbacks game in the spring and summer of 2010.

While she wasn't expected to have sex with players, Jones slept with "over 10" guys, a "couple" of whom she believes signed with Bross."

https://www.businessinsider.com/terry-bross-porn-agent-2011-10

Just trying to service his clients.

Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2018, 04:08:46 PM »
Lack of decent big man on roster is valid complaint obviously.
I think what happens at ST John's is you try to recruit best players you can and sometimes position balance suffers. Happened at end with Lavin as well. Didn't Pointer start at Center in NCAA tourney?
Absolutely. Lavin only having one serviceable center on that roster (was Adonis and Joey on that team?) was unacceptable too.  I don't understand why we never have any big men at this school.

Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2018, 04:11:09 PM »
Absolutely. Lavin only having one serviceable center on that roster (was Adonis and Joey on that team?) was unacceptable too.  I don't understand why we never have any big men at this school.

It seems we chase the best players we can. When we don't get them we always seem to be scrambling to complete a roster. Even more complicated now with us using the transfer so predominantly.

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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2018, 04:37:59 PM »
No inside presence on this team right until the new year. This was to be expected.

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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2018, 04:40:46 PM »
It seems we chase the best players we can. When we don't get them we always seem to be scrambling to complete a roster. Even more complicated now with us using the transfer so predominantly.

Translation - We have no recruiting plan and strategy. Chasing the best players is not a strategy when almost the entire roster is under 6'7. A normal approach to recruiting would be to fill out the roster like almost all other coaching staffs do and account for every position on the team.

Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2018, 04:50:52 PM »
Translation - We have no recruiting plan and strategy. Chasing the best players is not a strategy when almost the entire roster is under 6'7. A normal approach to recruiting would be to fill out the roster like almost all other coaching staffs do and account for every position on the team.

This strategy not exclusive to Mullin. Norm could never get a point guard and Lavin had to start Dom at center in NCAA tourney against 7 foot guy.

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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2018, 05:05:29 PM »
This strategy not exclusive to Mullin. Norm could never get a point guard and Lavin had to start Dom at center in NCAA tourney against 7 foot guy.

Combine this strategy with underwhelming coaching and you have a program that's basically been stuck in place for over 15 years.

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Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2018, 05:18:52 PM »
This injury isn’t a big deal. The staff wouldn’t be careless enough to put themselves in the same position as last year when LoVett got hurt, and the season was over.

Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2018, 05:26:37 PM »
This injury isn’t a big deal. The staff wouldn’t be careless enough to put themselves in the same position as last year when LoVett got hurt, and the season was over.
I agree that I don't think it's time to push the panic button, mainly because I think the schedule is easy enough that we still should be undefeated by the time Keita comes back.  However, I don't think that's something the staff should be patted on the back for.  If Heron wasn't deemed eligible this injury would've doomed us.

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Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2018, 05:30:46 PM »
I agree that I don't think it's time to push the panic button, mainly because I think the schedule is easy enough that we still should be undefeated by the time Keita comes back.  However, I don't think that's something the staff should be patted on the back for.  If Heron wasn't deemed eligible this injury would've doomed us.

I was being sarcastic. The staff didn’t have a backup point guard last year, or more than one big man on the roster.

Part of this is because they can’t land legitimate high school talent and there are two sit out transfers on the bench every season.

I’ve hesrd some say that there aren’t any bigs out there to get. Yet somehow Bowling Green has them. Rutgers has them.

This staff is nothing more than a shittier version of Lavin and company. Yet Dan Hurley somehow has a full roster of talent in year one at UConn.

Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2018, 05:55:48 PM »
another notch on Mullins belt. Losses on the court and off. He’s consistent at least. If anyone actually thinks that playing small all year is our best lineup is nuts. Our guards play 0 d on perimeter, we foul constantly because of penetration in the middle and help D. The loss of keita is big, and 0 depth in the front court is bigger. Staff sucks, plain and simple. They think street ball is going to get them over hump, it won’t. A poorly constructed roster of athletic wings will beat less athletic teams consistently, but over long run, it’s not a recipe for success. And please do not compare us to nova or Michigan who plays with athletic bigs/wings.

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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2018, 06:08:18 PM »
I was being sarcastic. The staff didn’t have a backup point guard last year, or more than one big man on the roster.

Part of this is because they can’t land legitimate high school talent and there are two sit out transfers on the bench every season.

I’ve hesrd some say that there aren’t any bigs out there to get. Yet somehow Bowling Green has them. Rutgers has them.

This staff is nothing more than a shittier version of Lavin and company. Yet Dan Hurley somehow has a full roster of talent in year one at UConn.
Sorry I didn't pick up on your sarcasm.

There were certainly bigs that could've been recruited instead of Roberts and Earlington who could've produced immediately.

I think the coaching comparison that irks me more then Hurley is looking at what Penny is doing at Memphis. Similar lack of coaching experience in a far worse conference and the dude looks like he's going to have a top 5 recruiting class in the nation. Meanwhile we sit here every year saying "oh well they're right there for a lot of the top talent in next year's class"

Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2018, 06:12:10 PM »
another notch on Mullins belt. Losses on the court and off. He’s consistent at least. If anyone actually thinks that playing small all year is our best lineup is nuts. Our guards play 0 d on perimeter, we foul constantly because of penetration in the middle and help D. The loss of keita is big, and 0 depth in the front court is bigger. Staff sucks, plain and simple. They think street ball is going to get them over hump, it won’t. A poorly constructed roster of athletic wings will beat less athletic teams consistently, but over long run, it’s not a recipe for success. And please do not compare us to nova or Michigan who plays with athletic bigs/wings.
Mullin has about 6-7 weeks to get Roberts and Earlington ready to contribute for Big East play. A ten foul center. Again, it comes back to poor roster management. Rutgers has a Big10 sized front line, that will be a good barometer.

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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2018, 07:05:54 PM »
This strategy not exclusive to Mullin. Norm could never get a point guard and Lavin had to start Dom at center in NCAA tourney against 7 foot guy.
Right, it's exclusive to St. John's.

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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2018, 07:14:19 PM »
Lets see
1985 Final Four team
10th man Terry Bross- had a nice fastball but really his only on court memory was getting called for BS goal tending in OT against Depaul @ Depaul in NCAA tourney. That is right AT Depaul in NCAA tourney.
11th man Steve Shurina-perhaps the greatest warmup shooter in history of basketball. Sady this never translated to actual games.

91 Elite 8 team
10th man Sergio Luyk- One of the first in great line of great white jump shooters that just never panned out for us. Call it the curse of Ron Rowan.
11th man Sean Muto- I think he had a cheesy mustache and a mullet.

99 Elite 8 team
10TH man Donald Emmanuel-became a serviceable big but did not get much run on the most aesthetically pleasing ST John's basketball team.
11th man Kareem Syed- He was fantastic on OZ and was even able to Kill Adebisi in a close quarters fight.

The point being that 10th and 11 men serve a purpose but generally aren't ready to contribute. This year is nothing different.
Real Kareem syed sat next to me in philosophy. Nice kid

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Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2018, 07:16:39 PM »
Translation - We have no recruiting plan and strategy. Chasing the best players is not a strategy when almost the entire roster is under 6'7. A normal approach to recruiting would be to fill out the roster like almost all other coaching staffs do and account for every position on the team.
This strategy not exclusive to Mullin. Norm could never get a point guard and Lavin had to start Dom at center in NCAA tourney against 7 foot guy.
So what is your point? Those guys were fired. Should we fire our current coach or patience?

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Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2018, 07:25:50 PM »
another notch on Mullins belt. Losses on the court and off. He’s consistent at least. If anyone actually thinks that playing small all year is our best lineup is nuts. Our guards play 0 d on perimeter, we foul constantly because of penetration in the middle and help D. The loss of keita is big, and 0 depth in the front court is bigger. Staff sucks, plain and simple. They think street ball is going to get them over hump, it won’t. A poorly constructed roster of athletic wings will beat less athletic teams consistently, but over long run, it’s not a recipe for success. And please do not compare us to nova or Michigan who plays with athletic bigs/wings.

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Re: Keita Injury
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2018, 07:26:06 PM »
Right, it's exclusive to St. John's.

Certainly seems so