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Poison

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« on: April 01, 2020, 03:39:34 PM »
Statewide stay-at-home order. Probably time to start watching the real news now.

Marillac

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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2020, 03:15:34 PM »
Statewide stay-at-home order. Probably time to start watching the real news now.


To the extent that Florida is dealing with COVID-19 it is almost entirely due to New Yorkers. The statewide order is completely unnecessary but everyone is afraid their careers will end if they don't  give the appearance of doing enough.  The virus can't thrive in 85+ degrees with humidity. 

Poison

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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2020, 04:12:10 PM »
To the extent that Florida is dealing with COVID-19 it is almost entirely due to New Yorkers. The statewide order is completely unnecessary but everyone is afraid their careers will end if they don't  give the appearance of doing enough.  The virus can't thrive in 85+ degrees with humidity. 

Everything you just said is wrong, or unproven. This is the problem now. Like I said, it’s time to cut the shit, and watch the real news. Despite the fact that people like you willingly signed up for this, I’d rather not see more St.John’s fans die. As it is, we don’t have many left.

States have the right to issue or not issue a statewide stay at home order.
And that’s the problem now.

Johnny23

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2020, 04:32:25 PM »
The virus can't thrive in 85+ degrees with humidity.

Your stupidity really knows no bounds. New Orleans is one of the country's hot spots with double the death rate of NYC. In just the last 2 weeks they had an 85 degree day and a 100% humidity day. #Idiot

Foad

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2020, 05:15:51 PM »
Your stupidity really knows no bounds. New Orleans is one of the country's hot spots with double the death rate of NYC. In just the last 2 weeks they had an 85 degree day and a 100% humidity day. #Idiot

Since you evidently went to all three years of epidemiology school, in your expert opinion does hot weather cure people who have already contracted the virus, which has a week-ish lag between contraction, symptoms and contagion, or does heat merely kill the virus in the wild? #AskingForAFriend

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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2020, 05:22:58 PM »
States have the right to issue or not issue a statewide stay at home order.
And that’s the problem now.


Agree. I think Governors and all local representatives should lose all of their authority immediately. The federal government led by Donald Trump should take complete control of the country at once. All elections should be canceled and the Trump family should remain in control of all aspects of the country until all diseases and viruses are completely eradicated

Poison

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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2020, 05:59:23 PM »
Agree. I think Governors and all local representatives should lose all of their authority immediately. The federal government led by Donald Trump should take complete control of the country at once. All elections should be canceled and the Trump family should remain in control of all aspects of the country until all diseases and viruses are completely eradicated

Stay safe.

It becomes a lot less funny when Trump’s carelessness gets someone you care about killed.

Johnny23

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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2020, 06:07:50 PM »
Since you evidently went to all three years of epidemiology school, in your expert opinion does hot weather cure people who have already contracted the virus, which has a week-ish lag between contraction, symptoms and contagion, or does heat merely kill the virus in the wild? #AskingForAFriend

Here's one synopsis in response to your question:

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200401/fact-check-will-coronavirus-fade-in-summer-heat

Bottom line is no one knows for sure yet since we've never had to deal with a Covid-19 pandemic before. However we do know the virus is spreading fast in New Orleans which has a climate similar to Florida.

goredmen

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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2020, 06:21:29 PM »
Stay safe.

It becomes a lot less funny when Trump’s carelessness gets someone you care about killed.

Yep, all Trump's fault. Has nothing to do with China bioengineering this thing, letting it slip out and then lying and covering it up to the rest of the world until it was too late.

Poison

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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2020, 06:47:56 PM »
Yep, all Trump's fault. Has nothing to do with China bioengineering this thing, letting it slip out and then lying and covering it up to the rest of the world until it was too late.

In January, Trump was told what this was, but he’s a stupid piece of shit, and he downplayed it.

You want anti-establishment?
Well you f’n got it.
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Foad

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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2020, 06:53:54 PM »
Here's one synopsis in response to your question:

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200401/fact-check-will-coronavirus-fade-in-summer-heat

Bottom line is no one knows for sure yet since we've never had to deal with a Covid-19 pandemic before. However we do know the virus is spreading fast in New Orleans which has a climate similar to Florida.


Yeah no. In the first place you said that the weather in New Orleans was currently warm and that New Orleans being a hot spot tends to prove that warm weather has no effect on infection, and you called Marrilac an idiot for thinking that it did. Whereas the temperature in New Orleans today would have no effect on contagion that took place weeks ago.

And in the second even the article you cited as proof of your mindless supposition doesn't prove your hypothesis:

“these kinds of respiratory viruses tend to go down as you get into the summer months,” Fauci told Curry. “we don’t know whether this is going to happen with this virus, because this is the first time we’ve ever dealt with this virus. So it’s not an unreasonable assumption to think that it’s going to go down.”

So Fauci says "it's not an unreasonable assumption to think that it’s going to go down," which is what Marillac postulated, Marillac who you call an idiot, who said exactly the same thing Fauci said, Fauci being who you cited as an expert to support the proposition that Marillac is an idiot.

An apology is in order. Let's see if you're man enough to offer one.

Foad

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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2020, 07:13:10 PM »
In January, Trump was told what this was, but he’s a stupid piece of shit, and he downplayed it.

You want anti-establishment?
Well you f’n got it.

In January when Trump was presiding over the inaugural meeting of the Corona virus task force Nancy Pelosi was handing out impeachment pens.

In January when Trump announced a travel ban from China he was denounced as a racist by all quarters left.

In February in Trump's State of the Union address he talked about the danger of the Corona virus. Nancy Pelosi tore that speech up and pronounced it a pack of lies.

What you're watching in real time is the refutation of everything in which you dopey liberals believe: globalization, urbanization, unfettered immigration, open borders, outsourcing, one world government, endemic welfare, socialized medicine, it's a long list of stupid ideas you people have. And you're so blinded by your hatred of a silly game show host that you can't see it happening. Which I understand, I felt the same way about when Trump named Wink Martindale head of the Gestapo, I found him terrifying. On the bright side in a couple of short months you'll be able to take the Metro North to the polls and vote proudly for a senile inveterate liar plagiarist hair smelling child molester and his running mate, who I assume will be a completely unqualified dopey woman who eats salad with a fork, she having beat out a fake Indian, a socialist with three summer homes, Mayor Zoolander, a faux Hispanic furry, the very butch Cory Booker - who's not at all gay - various billionaires, Bill de Blasio - currently doing a bang up job presiding over ground zero of the world bat virus pandemic - the flatulent Eric Swalwell, and white Oprah Marianne Williamson. And you'll vote for any of them, just as you proudly voted for Hillary Clinton, the most qualified serial grifter in the history of this country and her rapist husband, who you also voted for proudly, twice, because orange man bad.

When this is over Trump's face will be on Mount Rushmore. Book it.

Poison

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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2020, 07:39:56 PM »
In January when Trump was presiding over the inaugural meeting of the Corona virus task force Nancy Pelosi was handing out impeachment pens.

In January when Trump announced a travel ban from China he was denounced as a racist by all quarters left.

In February in Trump's State of the Union address he talked about the danger of the Corona virus. Nancy Pelosi tore that speech up and pronounced it a pack of lies.

What you're watching in real time is the refutation of everything in which you dopey liberals believe: globalization, urbanization, unfettered immigration, open borders, outsourcing, one world government, endemic welfare, socialized medicine, it's a long list of stupid ideas you people have. And you're so blinded by your hatred of a silly game show host that you can't see it happening. Which I understand, I felt the same way about when Trump named Wink Martindale head of the Gestapo, I found him terrifying. On the bright side in a couple of short months you'll be able to take the Metro North to the polls and vote proudly for a senile inveterate liar plagiarist hair smelling child molester and his running mate, who I assume will be a completely unqualified dopey woman who eats salad with a fork, she having beat out a fake Indian, a socialist with three summer homes, Mayor Zoolander, a faux Hispanic furry, the very butch Cory Booker - who's not at all gay - various billionaires, Bill de Blasio - currently doing a bang up job presiding over ground zero of the world bat virus pandemic - the flatulent Eric Swalwell, and white Oprah Marianne Williamson. And you'll vote for any of them, just as you proudly voted for Hillary Clinton, the most qualified serial grifter in the history of this country and her rapist husband, who you also voted for proudly, twice, because orange man bad.

When this is over Trump's face will be on Mount Rushmore. Book it.

He called it a hoax. He’s finished. Give it up.

Put on CNN, and leave it on.

Johnny23

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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2020, 08:48:03 PM »

Yeah no. In the first place you said that the weather in New Orleans was currently warm and that New Orleans being a hot spot tends to prove that warm weather has no effect on infection, and you called Marrilac an idiot for thinking that it did. Whereas the temperature in New Orleans today would have no effect on contagion that took place weeks ago.

And in the second even the article you cited as proof of your mindless supposition doesn't prove your hypothesis:

“these kinds of respiratory viruses tend to go down as you get into the summer months,” Fauci told Curry. “we don’t know whether this is going to happen with this virus, because this is the first time we’ve ever dealt with this virus. So it’s not an unreasonable assumption to think that it’s going to go down.”

So Fauci says "it's not an unreasonable assumption to think that it’s going to go down," which is what Marillac postulated, Marillac who you call an idiot, who said exactly the same thing Fauci said, Fauci being who you cited as an expert to support the proposition that Marillac is an idiot.

An apology is in order. Let's see if you're man enough to offer one.

You conveniently left out the end of Fauci's quote that I highlighted in bold above in which he stated "but you don’t want to count on it.”

Kind of an important omission that you left out, don't you think? So as I said before your incomplete reply remains exactly the same. We just don't know for sure either way. But what we do know about the current weather in New Orleans is based on factual temps and humidity over the last two weeks. My point stands. You lose and owe me honest, fully contextual replies moving forward. Anything less and you're being disingenuine.

Foad

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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2020, 04:21:51 PM »
He called it a hoax. He’s finished. Give it up.

Put on CNN, and leave it on.

Sad.

https://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/wapo-fact-checker-gives-biden-ad-four-pinocchios-for-manipulating-video-on-trump/

"The Post notes that Trump is criticizing Democratic talking points and the media’s coverage of his administration’s response to coronavirus, and never call the virus itself a hoax."

The Washington Post doesn't even agree with you. Dummy.

Foad

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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2020, 04:30:50 PM »
You conveniently left out the end of Fauci's quote that I highlighted in bold above in which he stated "but you don’t want to count on it.”

Kind of an important omission that you left out, don't you think? So as I said before your incomplete reply remains exactly the same. We just don't know for sure either way. But what we do know about the current weather in New Orleans is based on factual temps and humidity over the last two weeks. My point stands. You lose and owe me honest, fully contextual replies moving forward. Anything less and you're being disingenuine.

Yeah, no, your point doesn't stand.

Marillac said "The virus can't thrive in 85+ degrees with humidity."

Which maybe he's right or wrong I don't know, but the Fauci cite you supplied to support your calling him an idiot based upon your expert epidemiological opinion says it's "not an unreasonable assumption." Even if you add "you don’t want to count on it,” which is a meaningless statement based upon the necessary corollary "you don't want to not count on it."

So to recap: you're wrong, twice now.



 

Poison

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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2020, 09:04:50 AM »
Florida has reopened some beaches yesterday. Was it the right call? Probably not, but we’ll see.

Sweden hasn’t been on a lockdown, but they do have a set of rules. I would assume one difference between Sweden and places like Florida, or Michigan is that in Sweden, they can count on people to follow those rules, and even to understand them.
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Poison

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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2020, 09:08:31 AM »
Sad.

https://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/wapo-fact-checker-gives-biden-ad-four-pinocchios-for-manipulating-video-on-trump/

"The Post notes that Trump is criticizing Democratic talking points and the media’s coverage of his administration’s response to coronavirus, and never call the virus itself a hoax."

The Washington Post doesn't even agree with you. Dummy.


That seems like a reasonable source as long as anything on the internet is considered a source.

I get when Republicans side with bad people when it benefits them personally, but in this case, you’re kinda in the line of fire. Think you’re getting that last ventilator over that 36 year old?

Foad

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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2020, 09:45:09 AM »
I get when Republicans side with bad people when it benefits them personally, but in this case, you’re kinda in the line of fire. Think you’re getting that last ventilator over that 36 year old?

I'm not a republican and to paraphrase Dutch in the Wild Bunch when he was asked "Are you men associated with the American army,” I'm not associated with anybody.

As to being in the line of fire, I live upstate, far from the petri dish* you call home and have been practicing social isolation since the late 90s. I'm willing to make my chances.

Anyway I've come to believe that this (the hysteria, not the disease) is a false flag operation designed to determine how much of their liberties Americans are willing to give up in exchange for a monthly $1200 government check and a false sense of security. Which seems to be so far the first, second, fourth and fifth amendments and the right to travel, work and grow your own food and maybe if Obergruppenführer Fauci is to be believed, the right to vote.

"Do you think it will be safe in November for voters to physically go to vote at the polls?" (Jake Tapper).

"I hope so, but I can't guarantee it." (Fauci)

Which is weird because the other day he said whether to hook up via Grindr is a personal decision depending on the level of risk one finds acceptable. Anonymous stranger butt sex good, voting bad. Speaking of not understanding the rules.


* Cases per million

Downstate New York (16,230.65)
Spain (4,100.67)
Belgium (3,208.30)
Switzerland (3,166.40)
Italy (2,851.95)
Ireland (2,831.23)
France (2,284.94)
Portugal (1,930.52)
Netherlands (1,853.88)
United Kingdom (1,698.42)

https://pjmedia.com/trending/heres-how-much-downstate-new-york-is-skewing-the-united-states-coronavirus-numbers/

Poison

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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2020, 12:10:54 PM »
I'm not a republican and to paraphrase Dutch in the Wild Bunch when he was asked "Are you men associated with the American army,” I'm not associated with anybody.

As to being in the line of fire, I live upstate, far from the petri dish* you call home and have been practicing social isolation since the late 90s. I'm willing to make my chances.

Anyway I've come to believe that this (the hysteria, not the disease) is a false flag operation designed to determine how much of their liberties Americans are willing to give up in exchange for a monthly $1200 government check and a false sense of security. Which seems to be so far the first, second, fourth and fifth amendments and the right to travel, work and grow your own food and maybe if Obergruppenführer Fauci is to be believed, the right to vote.

"Do you think it will be safe in November for voters to physically go to vote at the polls?" (Jake Tapper).

"I hope so, but I can't guarantee it." (Fauci)

Which is weird because the other day he said whether to hook up via Grindr is a personal decision depending on the level of risk one finds acceptable. Anonymous stranger butt sex good, voting bad. Speaking of not understanding the rules.


* Cases per million

Downstate New York (16,230.65)
Spain (4,100.67)
Belgium (3,208.30)
Switzerland (3,166.40)
Italy (2,851.95)
Ireland (2,831.23)
France (2,284.94)
Portugal (1,930.52)
Netherlands (1,853.88)
United Kingdom (1,698.42)

https://pjmedia.com/trending/heres-how-much-downstate-new-york-is-skewing-the-united-states-coronavirus-numbers/

Without NYC, this country is nothing.

And you should know by now that if our military can kill an Iranian general with a drone that our government could easily take away your 2nd Amendment rights with a swift show of force. Eventually, it’s coming.

In terms of the virus being used to take away civil liberties, it done. And frankly, look at the mess this country is in. Freedom should be taken from these animals. I just hope it’s done with the force I’ve been dreaming of.
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