2020 Election

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Re: 2020 Election
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2020, 12:40:30 AM »
I think the election is effectively over now.  Trump will steamroll Biden and collect 320+ delegates and win the popular vote by seven-figures. The DNC did such a sh*t job with their campaign.  They've almost entirely left out Hispanic voters and that was clear to everyone after the convention. They made a severe miscalculation backing BLM over police and law and order. They read that completely wrong and their internal polling was a disaster there.

As VP, Biden got nearly every major law enforcement union to endorse his ticket in 2008 and 2012.  They even cited Biden as the main reason why.  There are a million police officers nationwide and probably another million court officers, correction officers, government agents, security personnel, etc. Add spouses, partners, kids, parents and extended family and there goes a ton of votes. A large % of those people are Black.

All the left had to do to win was cut the sh*t with the identity politics and the forced compliance.  That's it. 

After Trump wins big and the far-left riots and burns cities and then blames Russia for a few months, will the left learn from this or do they double down and follow maniacs like AOC? Are they going to continue to bully people into thinking pieces of sh*t like Jacob Blake are martyrs?

lol

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« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2020, 01:39:33 AM »
So much for losing like a man.
Thought dems rejected sexism and misogyny.

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« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2020, 10:23:54 AM »
and now trump supporters are gathering at vote counting sites. I hesitate to call it protesting because there is nothing to protest,...they don’t approve of democracy in action which is not surprising

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Re: 2020 Election
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2020, 10:40:24 PM »
lol

I toned down my expectations in the weeks leading up to the election when the ballots were being mailed out to everyone in multiple states and the Green Party was successfully kept off ballots by the DNC. But I was still off.

This wasn’t a victory by the Dems overall though. Florida Hispanics gave the rest of the nation’s Hispanics license to vote red. Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. Trump was probably the only candidate that could have paused the manifest destiny of Hispanics becoming the  backbone of the GOP. I’m not sure how Dems can win going forward when A Cruz/Crenshaw ticket gets 50-55% of the Hispanic vote. That is unless they can push for another mass mail-in election.

 

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Re: 2020 Election
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2020, 07:11:01 AM »
I toned down my expectations in the weeks leading up to the election when the ballots were being mailed out to everyone in multiple states and the Green Party was successfully kept off ballots by the DNC. But I was still off.

This wasn’t a victory by the Dems overall though. Florida Hispanics gave the rest of the nation’s Hispanics license to vote red. Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. Trump was probably the only candidate that could have paused the manifest destiny of Hispanics becoming the  backbone of the GOP. I’m not sure how Dems can win going forward when A Cruz/Crenshaw ticket gets 50-55% of the Hispanic vote. That is unless they can push for another mass mail-in election.


Exactly. Quietly and brilliantly, you knew that it wasn’t happening for Trump.

You always seem to know.

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Re: 2020 Election
« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2020, 02:53:06 PM »
I think the election is effectively over now.  Trump will steamroll Biden and collect 320+ delegates and win the popular vote by seven-figures.

Your political predictions are almost as accurate as your hoops prognostications.


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« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2020, 08:55:12 PM »
Trump is going to continue to hold rallies. Anyone going?

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« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2020, 12:04:26 AM »
Trump is going to continue to hold rallies. Anyone going?
Probably more people than went to Biden rallies pre-election but then all you need for that is more people than can fit in Biden's basement.

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« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2020, 07:25:43 AM »
Probably more people than went to Biden rallies pre-election but then all you need for that is more people than can fit in Biden's basement.

Trump holding rallies with thousands of people didn’t stop him from losing Arizona and even Georgia. The Dems weren’t even trying to win Arizona.

But the real question that’s on a everyone’s mind is when do we officially become a full blown socialist country, and kill capitalism once and for all?


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« Reply #49 on: November 09, 2020, 11:25:32 AM »
Despite all the misinformed McCarthy like paranoia of turning into a socialist country it will never happen. We became somewhat Socialist under FDR and will remain in that ballpark. I believe we eventually will have socialized medicine like the rest of the civilized world

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« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2020, 11:27:31 AM »
heheh. What a divisive jerk. Go play golf and stfu
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Re: 2020 Election
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2020, 11:33:17 AM »
Cubans were the story in florida.   Don’t lump them with the rest of the Hispanics who are solidly democratic

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« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2020, 03:44:56 PM »
Cubans were the story in florida.   Don’t lump them with the rest of the Hispanics who are solidly democratic

This is completely false. Colombians, Brazilians (Portuguese speaking, I know), Venezuelans, Cubans, and other people of South American descent all showed a ton of enthusiasm for Trump and the right. My son is a dual-citizen of Colombia and that entire side of his family (all immigrants) had MAGA hats and enthusiasm for Trump.

Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004.  Trump could have built on that if he didn't put his foot in his mouth and the Hillary campaign brilliantly didn't let Hispanics forget for a minute.

Most groups of Hispanics are a natural fit for the right.  They generally:  are Catholic, place an emphasis on family values, reject identity politics, support the Second Amendment (especially in the Sun Belt), dislike excuses, and support law and order. The outpouring of support from Florida Hispanics gives many Hispanics elsewhere the license to express their support for the right.




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Re: 2020 Election
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2020, 03:51:30 PM »
Your political predictions are almost as accurate as your hoops prognostications.



I'm not particularly good at predicting how many functionally illiterate people from cities like Detroit and Philadelphia will vote the same way they've voted for the last 60 years.

47% of Detroit is either illiterate or functionally illiterate.  It has the the lowest ranked schools in the country in spite of ranking 8th nationally in spending per student. I'm sure this term will be different, though.


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Re: 2020 Election
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2020, 03:52:28 PM »
This is completely false. Colombians, Brazilians (Portuguese speaking, I know), Venezuelans, Cubans, and other people of South American descent all showed a ton of enthusiasm for Trump and the right. My son is a dual-citizen of Colombia and that entire side of his family (all immigrants) had MAGA hats and enthusiasm for Trump.

Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004.  Trump could have built on that if he didn't put his foot in his mouth and the Hillary campaign brilliantly didn't let Hispanics forget for a minute.

Most groups of Hispanics are a natural fit for the right.  They generally:  are Catholic, place an emphasis on family values, reject identity politics, support the Second Amendment (especially in the Sun Belt), dislike excuses, and support law and order. The outpouring of support from Florida Hispanics gives many Hispanics elsewhere the license to express their support for the right.
.  The reason Republicans are in trouble in texas and arizona is the latino demographic. Florida is an exception to the rule.  Mexicans and Central Americans are the growing demographic which will push states to the Democratic side. Not too many new cuban immigrants

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Re: 2020 Election
« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2020, 05:08:31 PM »
.  The reason Republicans are in trouble in texas and arizona is the latino demographic. Florida is an exception to the rule.  Mexicans and Central Americans are the growing demographic which will push states to the Democratic side. Not too many new cuban immigrants

I disagree. Political parties must evolve or they die. The democrats were enforcing Jim Crow laws with their militant arm, the KKK, in the 50's and they were getting 95% of the black vote by the end of the 60's.

The GOP has to not only embrace Hispanic voters, but make them the backbone of the party. There are obviously subgroups within that massive demographic where Republicans won't fair well in. Mexican-Americans will be a strength. What happens if the right runs Cruz or Rubio? The right simply cannot exist beyond 2020 without a massive shift.

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« Reply #56 on: November 09, 2020, 05:13:28 PM »
This is completely false. Colombians, Brazilians (Portuguese speaking, I know), Venezuelans, Cubans, and other people of South American descent all showed a ton of enthusiasm for Trump and the right. My son is a dual-citizen of Colombia and that entire side of his family (all immigrants) had MAGA hats and enthusiasm for Trump.

Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004.  Trump could have built on that if he didn't put his foot in his mouth and the Hillary campaign brilliantly didn't let Hispanics forget for a minute.

Most groups of Hispanics are a natural fit for the right.  They generally:  are Catholic, place an emphasis on family values, reject identity politics, support the Second Amendment (especially in the Sun Belt), dislike excuses, and support law and order. The outpouring of support from Florida Hispanics gives many Hispanics elsewhere the license to express their support for the right.


MAGA hats? What day is trash day?

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Re: 2020 Election
« Reply #57 on: November 09, 2020, 05:18:02 PM »
This is completely false. Colombians, Brazilians (Portuguese speaking, I know), Venezuelans, Cubans, and other people of South American descent all showed a ton of enthusiasm for Trump and the right. My son is a dual-citizen of Colombia and that entire side of his family (all immigrants) had MAGA hats and enthusiasm for Trump.

Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004.  Trump could have built on that if he didn't put his foot in his mouth and the Hillary campaign brilliantly didn't let Hispanics forget for a minute.

Most groups of Hispanics are a natural fit for the right.  They generally:  are Catholic, place an emphasis on family values, reject identity politics, support the Second Amendment (especially in the Sun Belt), dislike excuses, and support law and order. The outpouring of support from Florida Hispanics gives many Hispanics elsewhere the license to express their support for the right.


You just make stuff up. Hispanics did not come out in favor of Trump outside of one state. And what state was that? F’n Florida, because of course it was. Even Georgia knew better.

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Re: 2020 Election
« Reply #58 on: November 09, 2020, 06:33:14 PM »
Dixiecrats have no relation to the democratic party of today. The kkk and their ilk are today solidly in the  republican camp, home of racism since Nixon

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« Reply #59 on: November 09, 2020, 08:01:27 PM »
Dixiecrats have no relation to the democratic party of today. The kkk and their ilk are today solidly in the  republican camp, home of racism since Nixon

Truth.