Unbiased Opinion of Justin

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Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« on: February 07, 2009, 05:03:31 PM »
I took my cousin to the St. John’s  Seton Hall game. My cousin played basketball in HS and Coached in HS, so he has a good knowledge of the game.
During warm-ups and at the start of the game he stated that Burrell looked like a great athlete. I stated to him that he really has not produced this year.
JB first shot of the game is an open 3 from the top of the key that he drills. Cousin looks at and says wow great looking stroke. Burrell then shows a solid move down low but misses the dunk because he took his initial jump from too far out. My cousin say so what they should go to him everytime cause there is no way Garcia or Stick can guard him. He will kill tonight. For the rest of the game my cousin continues to state to me that cannot believe the Burrell is not touching the ball. The dunk in the 2nd half was sick.
Now Burrell did get 10 shots in the Seton Hall game, but if he takes 20 shots we would have had a much better chance to win.
I know several people have expressed their frustration on the number of touches Burrell gets. I just thought my cousin unbiased opinion confirmed of what we have been stating.
Watching the Seton Hall game in person it is really easy to see that Horne and DJ do not look for JB.
Also why does it appear that Justin does not have a green light to shoot the 3. First 3 is drilled and he does not take another 3.

Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2009, 05:39:05 PM »
Your Coz is right but you need a PG to deliver him the ball we don't have one so until we do Justin will not reach his full potential in a STJ uniform
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Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2009, 09:41:27 PM »
I took my cousin to the St. John’s  Seton Hall game. My cousin played basketball in HS and Coached in HS, so he has a good knowledge of the game.
During warm-ups and at the start of the game he stated that Burrell looked like a great athlete. I stated to him that he really has not produced this year.
JB first shot of the game is an open 3 from the top of the key that he drills. Cousin looks at and says wow great looking stroke. Burrell then shows a solid move down low but misses the dunk because he took his initial jump from too far out. My cousin say so what they should go to him everytime cause there is no way Garcia or Stick can guard him. He will kill tonight. For the rest of the game my cousin continues to state to me that cannot believe the Burrell is not touching the ball. The dunk in the 2nd half was sick.
Now Burrell did get 10 shots in the Seton Hall game, but if he takes 20 shots we would have had a much better chance to win.
I know several people have expressed their frustration on the number of touches Burrell gets. I just thought my cousin unbiased opinion confirmed of what we have been stating.
Watching the Seton Hall game in person it is really easy to see that Horne and DJ do not look for JB.
Also why does it appear that Justin does not have a green light to shoot the 3. First 3 is drilled and he does not take another 3.

Your cousin is dead on. It's on Roberts to solve that problem, but he clearly doesn't think that JB should be the offense.

Which is just yet another reason to remove him.

Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2009, 10:32:35 AM »
Your Coz is right but you need a PG to deliver him the ball we don't have one so until we do Justin will not reach his full potential in a STJ uniform

100% correct! Good Point Guards get their bigs easy baskets down low they find the open man. High percentage shots! You could add 6-10 points on to JB average if an effective PG was getting him the rock. JB should be demanding the ball more.

I like Boothe but he has been out the past few weeks and we should of had a better option at backup PG.

Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2009, 11:14:42 AM »
I think JB does demand the ball more, but he just doesnt it. When watching games, you can see him go nuts sometimes b/c he isnt getting the ball. During the play, he's jumping up and down waving his arms and after the play hes usually throwing his arms around all mad b/c he didnt get the ball.

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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2009, 11:21:09 AM »
I agree Justin should have had more touches.  With SH's lack of bodies, we should have pounded the ball inside all game.  Justin, Sean, Coker and even Wait should have been the focus of our offense.  If nothing else, we get their bigs in foul trouble earlier in the game.

In some games, teams were able to drop a man down and deny the interior pass.  SH  didn't really do that so, in my opinion, there was no excuse for not going inside.

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Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2009, 11:50:48 AM »
I think JB does demand the ball more, but he just doesnt it. When watching games, you can see him go nuts sometimes b/c he isnt getting the ball. During the play, he's jumping up and down waving his arms and after the play hes usually throwing his arms around all mad b/c he didnt get the ball.

Exactly. It's easy to get the ball to Sean Evans. Any Big East team will dare him to make a shot, or not turn it over by throwing it away, dribbling it off his feet, or his most reliable move—traveling.

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2009, 12:15:13 PM »
I think JB does demand the ball more, but he just doesnt it. When watching games, you can see him go nuts sometimes b/c he isnt getting the ball. During the play, he's jumping up and down waving his arms and after the play hes usually throwing his arms around all mad b/c he didnt get the ball.

Exactly. It's easy to get the ball to Sean Evans. Any Big East team will dare him to make a shot, or not turn it over by throwing it away, dribbling it off his feet, or his most reliable move—traveling.

I want Sean to dribble more. The more he dribbles the better he'll get and he is definitely quicker than most guys his size. However he needs to improve his shot and more importantly make free throws. He is a guy who can get to the line a ton and its worthless if he misses 60% of the time.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2009, 12:34:33 PM »
One positive thing I saw from Justin in the Seton Hall game where there was one time he caught the ball on the baseline with his back to the basket in the first half. He pivoted back and faced up. When he did that he pumped, jab stepped, and the defender didn't flinch one inch. Then Justin sized up the basket looked and took the shot. He missed but that was a good look and something he needs to do more. He can hit that shot with pretty good consistency and the more he takes and makes that shot the more it will open up drive opportunities for him as well.

Justin also needs to work on his hands a lot. He need to get a stronger grip on the ball so when he goes up for the dunk he can throw it down in traffic too many times a defender will go to block it and Justin doesn't finish or a defender will slap his hand and he'll lose the ball. I'm hoping that Coach Dixon will work with him in the offseason improving this and also his hand eye coordination. Play catch with some tennis balls and improve his handle. Some things I want Justin to do this offseason....

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Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2009, 01:25:32 PM »
...Justin also needs to work on his hands a lot. He need to get a stronger grip on the ball so when he goes up for the dunk he can throw it down in traffic too many times a defender will go to block it and Justin doesn't finish or a defender will slap his hand and he'll lose the ball. I'm hoping that Coach Dixon will work with him in the offseason improving this and also his hand eye coordination. Play catch with some tennis balls and improve his handle. Some things I want Justin to do this offseason...
I agree with this, particularly in regard to improving his handle. On too many occasions Justin has bobbled a ball thrown into him or failed to support his lightning quick moves with control of the ball.
On offense I think he has been much more effective facing the basket than he has been posting up. I'd like to see more of it in the game today. His defense has improved and he is not so quick to commit unthinking fouls. I loved this guy in prep school and think he can become a major contributor in the Big East.

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Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2009, 09:39:05 AM »
Burrell shot 17 times (season high) and we scored 47 points (season-low)

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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2009, 11:39:03 AM »
Burrell shot 17 times (season high) and we scored 47 points (season-low)

They were mostly good shots! Louisville's length on D bothered everyone down low. I think Justin got frustrated and started rushing his shots. 

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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2009, 11:57:28 AM »
Burrell shot 17 times (season high) and we scored 47 points (season-low)

They were mostly good shots! Louisville's length on D bothered everyone down low. I think Justin got frustrated and started rushing his shots.

Agreed.  Justin should be getting 10-15 shots EVERY game.  Keep shooting!
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Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2009, 12:10:34 PM »
I don't have a problem with Justin taking that many shots.  Establishing the post offensively in basketball is similar to establishing a running game in football.  Sometimes you have to accept less than stellar results at the onset, but it will inevitably open up more opportunities as the game progresses. 

There is also the added bonus of getting the other team in foul trouble as well. 

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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2009, 03:17:12 PM »
I feel he is finally getting used to the times when he is double teamed,last year  he looked lost at times. The dunk at Seton hall was sick and he had another nice one against Rutgers. I feel he is starting to realize that he can play with the best of them and confidence will go a long way. The PG problem is another story that  may not be fixed.(ugh). Burrell does need to get some more rebounds though.
I have hope that this thing will turn around and I hope it is next year. (Everyones a Junior plus Mase and hopefully Lance).
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Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2009, 07:26:20 PM »
He has to take more than 5 shots a game but it is partly his fault. He frequently gets the ball at the foul line but passes back out, or drives to the hoop, where he is double teamed or overmatched. He has to take that jump shot from the foul line. He has been a real enigma. His rebound average is atrocious. He is a great athlete. A nice young man. Effort is there for the most part. But he has regressed from last year.

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Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2009, 08:56:53 PM »
woud yall take samardo on this team

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Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2009, 09:10:36 PM »
I think JB does demand the ball more, but he just doesnt it. When watching games, you can see him go nuts sometimes b/c he isnt getting the ball. During the play, he's jumping up and down waving his arms and after the play hes usually throwing his arms around all mad b/c he didnt get the ball.

Exactly. It's easy to get the ball to Sean Evans. Any Big East team will dare him to make a shot, or not turn it over by throwing it away, dribbling it off his feet, or his most reliable move—traveling.

I want Sean to dribble more. The more he dribbles the better he'll get and he is definitely quicker than most guys his size. However he needs to improve his shot and more importantly make free throws. He is a guy who can get to the line a ton and its worthless if he misses 60% of the time.

i want him to dribble more too. in practice.

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Re: Unbiased Opinion of Justin
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2009, 09:11:36 PM »
woud yall take samardo on this team

gee, i suppose we'd find room for him.

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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2009, 09:17:01 PM »
woud yall take samardo on this team

Barring an NCAA investigation into another pay for player scandal at STJ,  you'd have to be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMpsttlXye8&feature=relateded not to take SS.