Why coach gotta go.

Never wanted to do this, considerin I was a big backer back in the day.

But coach gotta go.

And right now they is just one overall reason that I been seein all season long and I cant stand no mo.

Coach never man up and take responsibility.

He dont take responsibility fo not havin his team prepared. Nah, its cause they young.

He dont take responsibility fo not havin his team play hard. Nah, its cause they all tired.

He dont take responsibility fo losin all the confidence in all the CHSAA, PSAL and AAU coaches. Nah, its all politics and what Jarvis done.

He dont take responsibility fo all the transfers. Nah, they didnt buy into what we establishin here.

And he never take responsibility fo bein irrelevant and at the bottom. Nah, we was workin our ways up from nuthin.

Coach simply dont man up.

And you need a man leadin St. John.

-Choz4Life

i agree 100%.  it's frustrating to always hear excuses or built-in excuses.

I guess Oz Cross and Kimani Young didn't have confidence in Norm either. He's building pipelines. If you want to say Norm's gotta go for the like of Calipari then ok but otherwise there isn't much point to this discussion because he is coming back.

he wasnt prepared today. they knew all of our plays. it was unreal

Never wanted to do this, considerin I was a big backer back in the day.

But coach gotta go.

And right now they is just one overall reason that I been seein all season long and I cant stand no mo.

Coach never man up and take responsibility.

He dont take responsibility fo not havin his team prepared. Nah, its cause they young.

He dont take responsibility fo not havin his team play hard. Nah, its cause they all tired.

He dont take responsibility fo losin all the confidence in all the CHSAA, PSAL and AAU coaches. Nah, its all politics and what Jarvis done.

He dont take responsibility fo all the transfers. Nah, they didnt buy into what we establishin here.

And he never take responsibility fo bein irrelevant and at the bottom. Nah, we was workin our ways up from nuthin.

Coach simply dont man up.

And you need a man leadin St. John.

-Choz4Life

Roberts consistently does what my dad would sometimes say when I was 'coming up.'  It's called, 'passing the buck.' 

I was happy the Johnnies won yesterday.  It also made the win that much better because it was against the "Hated Hoyas."  Nevertheless, I didn't expect to beat Marquette today.  I was 'hoping,' but I knew better. 

Once, we got down 22-8....  I knew it was over!  I, continued to watch the horror show, in which, we called the first half....  But, I didn't even bother to watch the second half of today's game.  We're going nowhere with Roberts....  And, as Choz mentioned....  He's not gonna be a man and man-up.  He's gonna consistently deflect criticism and make up lame excuses.

Not to mention, he can't seem to stop getting blown out like a half a dozen times or more a season.  We've gotten waxed more than the cafeteria floor at my sons' elementary school.

Marquette doesn't play lame defense like G'town and I could see after the first 7 minutes that we were gonna be in trouble.  We have no shooters and no offensive sets (at least, none that consistently works) and that plays in the hands of a team who plays pretty, good defense such as Marquette.

I'm almost to the point where I don't care any longer.  Slowly, but surely.

he wasnt prepared today. they knew all of our plays. it was unreal

Both of them

Never wanted to do this, considerin I was a big backer back in the day.

But coach gotta go.

And right now they is just one overall reason that I been seein all season long and I cant stand no mo.

Coach never man up and take responsibility.

He dont take responsibility fo not havin his team prepared. Nah, its cause they young.

He dont take responsibility fo not havin his team play hard. Nah, its cause they all tired.

He dont take responsibility fo losin all the confidence in all the CHSAA, PSAL and AAU coaches. Nah, its all politics and what Jarvis done.

He dont take responsibility fo all the transfers. Nah, they didnt buy into what we establishin here.

And he never take responsibility fo bein irrelevant and at the bottom. Nah, we was workin our ways up from nuthin.

Coach simply dont man up.

And you need a man leadin St. John.

-Choz4Life

I know exactly how you feel I was a BIG norm supporter , but I just don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. I am off the bandwagon.

If we at least had a strong class coming in 2010 or 2011 then that would be progress but I just don't see it getting better.

I just want Norm to recruit our holes we have  a hole at C & PG it has been there since he started recruiting.

nah seriously i was in awe of how they scouted us and we didnt scout them. they have only one guard and all u have to do is send him left. he pressed the hoyas i dont know why he didnt do it to marquette. he respected them to much. it was brutal

he wasnt prepared today. they knew all of our plays. it was unreal

first..great post by choz.

second...marquette's coach out and out said he knew all of our plays...we're predictable.

the school OWES players who choose st john's much better than what they're getting.

he wasnt prepared today. they knew all of our plays. it was unreal

what plays? we do ball screens. that's it.

EXACTLY...marquette's coach said they did 88 of them in one game...55 in another.  he said they were easy to defend.

that's how kids who are great shooters all of a sudden can't shoot.  they're defended.

Yea, Norm sucked today. He continually threw up bricks and turned the ball over something like 16 times.

You guys need to hang most of the responsibility for this loss on the kids, not on Norm. I support these kids all year and every year, but when they stink the place up we all have to be man enough to admit that.

KOB: usually I respect your posts and your love for JB, but how about you man up and say that JB disappeared today. 2 pts, 3 boards, 1 block, 1 dime, 4 fouls and 2 TO in 25 minutes. In the biggest game of his career???

I’m not purposely singling him out, but you seemed to place it all on Norm.

Also, happy that the Hall is done, but nice to see Cabdriver having a great game to finish off his season.

norm's offense is so predictible that coaches have no problem defending. 

that means players who can shoot are handicapped.

look how cedric jackson thrived elsewhere. 

it's the coach...not the players.

norm's offense is so predictible that coaches have no problem defending. 

that means players who can shoot are handicapped.

look how cedric jackson thrived elsewhere. 

it's the coach...not the players.

Newsman13, I have a lot of respect for your posting, but are you really pulling the Cedric Jackson card for lack of offence. I watched his game the other night and he is still not a good shooter .What he does great at the Mid Major level is get in the lane and create.

St. John's offence is read and react based on Ball screens. What so hard to scout!!! Buzz make a statement that he prepared is kids for it and you jump all over his jock.

Where I blame Norm is the fact that Sean Evans, Malik Boothe, Paris Horne and DJ played way to many minute against Gtown.

Q Roberts should of played 15 minutes against Gtown not 2 minutes. People can say it is only day2, but at this level just being a 1/2 step slow kills you.

We did not make shots, we got beat to every losse ball and got killed on the offence broads. That is kids who just did not have a 2nd gear today.

Norm need to learn how to use is bench.

All these statement about taking responsibility with the media are garbage. Dealing with the media in bad times is not easy and it is one area that I think Norm is very good at. I think that is what makes so many of the posters here mad. That he really does not share with the public, he keeps issue within his team family. All coaches give those press stamp answers after a loss.

To use Marco Baldi's favorite term..

Norm got OWNED yesterday by Buzz Williams

To use Marco Baldi's favorite term..

Norm got OWNED yesterday by Buzz Williams

PMG, Im going to start charging you per OWNED post

 

that means players who can shoot are handicapped.

look how cedric jackson thrived elsewhere. 

it's the coach...not the players.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=22435

These are the percentages of Cedric Jackson this season:

.382 field goals.
.303 three points.
.623 free throws.

Obviously he is not Allan Houston.

man up look before u come at me read some back post and see what I have said about justin. Mother#$%^er now is not the time
To get me pissed off.

Yea, Norm sucked today. He continually threw up bricks and turned the ball over something like 16 times.

You guys need to hang most of the responsibility for this loss on the kids, not on Norm. I support these kids all year and every year, but when they stink the place up we all have to be man enough to admit that.

KOB: usually I respect your posts and your love for JB, but how about you man up and say that JB disappeared today. 2 pts, 3 boards, 1 block, 1 dime, 4 fouls and 2 TO in 25 minutes. In the biggest game of his career???

I’m not purposely singling him out, but you seemed to place it all on Norm.

Also, happy that the Hall is done, but nice to see Cabdriver having a great game to finish off his season.

If you want to blame the players fine, then the guy who brought them here has to share the blame no? Who was that guy again? Bad dresser, claps his hands at bizarre moments? 80 games under .500 for his coaching career? It is on the tip of my tongue.
Seriously the players are to blame but other than Justin, most of them played up to their capabilities this year. Justin played terribly, but since he showed such promise as a frosh, his awful season falls on the "coach" as well!
The more glaring problem is the embarrassing offense and brutal losses were expected for his first two seasons,but by year 5? Come on! In the real world Norm would have been fired 2 years ago!