Lavin ignoring NY for Cali? (espn insider)

Numbers lie. Lopez put up over 17 a game as a freshman,
but he was nowhere near as good as Adrian Griffin on Seton Hall.

Numbers don't lie, they can't. People lie. Are you saying that the freshman AG (3 ppg) was a better player or had a better year than the freshman Felipe Lopez (17ppg)? If so, how could you tell? He played 4 minutes a half and scored a point per. That must been an impressive 400 seconds of ball.

Quote from: Poison on April 30, 2010, 09:24:48 AM

Numbers lie. Lopez put up over 17 a game as a freshman,
but he was nowhere near as good as Adrian Griffin on Seton Hall.

Numbers don't lie, they can't. People lie. Are you saying that the freshman AG (3 ppg) was a better player or had a better year than the freshman Felipe Lopez (17ppg)? If so, how could you tell? He played 4 minutes a half and scored a point per. That must been an impressive 400 seconds of ball.

What I'm saying is that you get no credit for scoring a lot of points on a losing team.
They could lose without you.

Quote from: Dave on April 29, 2010, 01:33:12 PM

Quote from: Poison on April 29, 2010, 01:30:31 PM

Quote from: thatswhatsup on April 29, 2010, 01:26:13 PM

If you look at the talent level in NYC for 2011 and up it is pretty thin. No studs out there. May have to look out of state to recruit. Right now NJ is more of a hot bed for talent than NYC.

true that, and it really hasn't been great for years.
for all the hype, Stephenson, Scott and Parrom flat out underachieved.

Stephenson took his Bearcats to the same pointless tournament that we went to. Scott's Caines were garbage. As was Zona.

What are you talking about? Scott is projected first rounder next year while Parrom had a fine freshman season when he was on the floor for a very young zona team.

Some people are VERY bitter. .  or just ignorant.

4-12 is 4-12. Dress it up all you want smart guy.

The way Durand Scott was playing - it seemed he was carrying the team at the end - was kind of impressive.  Their bigger problems were defense and rebounding, it seems.  We would have loved to have had him.

Actually, if we're talking about standards slipping, who are we thinking of as top pro athletes in the last 15-20 years in the major sports who are from New York City?  There has been a dearth of athletes from NYC, and there ain't a lot of football to talk about, not a lot of hockey...

What I'm saying is that you get no credit for scoring a lot of points on a losing team.  They could lose without you.

Seton Hall was 73 - 51 in Griffin's four years and won one tournament game over that span. Take away the 27 win season (27-7 in 1993, the year he played 9 minutes a game as a freshman and averaged 3 points) and they were 46 and 54 (18-13, 16-14, 12-17). So I guess they could have lost with him as well.

The way Durand Scott was playing - it seemed he was carrying the team at the end - was kind of impressive.  Their bigger problems were defense and rebounding, it seems.  We would have loved to have had him.

Actually, if we're talking about standards slipping, who are we thinking of as top pro athletes in the last 15-20 years in the major sports who are from New York City?  There has been a dearth of athletes from NYC, and there ain't a lot of football to talk about, not a lot of hockey...

Carrying them where? Like where Hill carried us to a 3 win season?

Carrying them where? Like where Hill carried us to a 3 win season?

Point duly taken.

But Durand looked pretty dynamic to me, even if his team that couldn't do much right. 

Quote from: Poison on April 30, 2010, 12:53:53 PM

Carrying them where? Like where Hill carried us to a 3 win season?

Point duly taken.

But Durand looked pretty dynamic to me, even if his team that couldn't do much right.

He has a nice car though

Was Hill not dynamic as well?

33 in the Dome. 27 on Notre Dame. 29 on Nova. 26 on WV.

Lavin will be judged by winning, not the talent he is able to keep home.  If we win, then we will keep more talent home, plain and simple.  Lavin is smart to get the best talent he can, wherever it may be from.

poison the new york talent is crazy in college right now.