Kyle Anderson - F - St. Anthony's - Paterson, NJ - UCLA

The kid has played 3 games and he is 2-1 with a loss against a very solid Georgetown team on a neutral floor and some are already writing off his entire career at UCLA and Ben Howland is already fired.

You can't make this stuff up sometimes.

The kid has played 3 games and he is 2-1 with a loss against a very solid Georgetown team on a neutral floor and some are already writing off his entire career at UCLA and Ben Howland is already fired.

You can't make this stuff up sometimes.

Ben Howland has been doing a horrible job for several years now. You can't make that up.

Quote from: fordham96 on November 20, 2012, 01:32:40 PM

The kid has played 3 games and he is 2-1 with a loss against a very solid Georgetown team on a neutral floor and some are already writing off his entire career at UCLA and Ben Howland is already fired.

You can't make this stuff up sometimes.

Ben Howland has been doing a horrible job for several years now. You can't make that up.

It is 3 games into the season, short of being 3-0 that won't change what he did a few years ago.  And he was not fired after last year so obviously they clearly have confidence in him.

I fail to see your point regarding what I wrote nor do I care.

Quote from: fordham96 on November 20, 2012, 01:32:40 PM

The kid has played 3 games and he is 2-1 with a loss against a very solid Georgetown team on a neutral floor and some are already writing off his entire career at UCLA and Ben Howland is already fired.

You can't make this stuff up sometimes.

Ben Howland has been doing a horrible job for several years now. You can't make that up.

Not sure "several" is the right word.  Most folks regard "several" as more than a "few".   and  within a "few", you find a a final four.  Within "several", you'll find 3 final fours, five 23+ win seasons, three 30+ win seasons.   The last two years he's 42-25 with a 2nd round Tourney appearnance,  + a 3-1 start to this season.   And for recruiting, he's got  7 McDonalds All Americans on this years squad, and 3 blue chips signed their LOIs last week for next season.

As for Kyle, he's was injured early in his second game - deep bone bruise on the wrist of his shooting/passing hand.  Right now he can't hit the broadside of a barn.    But he IS leading the the in rebouding with over 9 a game.   2nd on the team in assists (he can pass with Either hand).   The reason he's not leading the team is that senior transfer Larry Drew is is setting a pace in assists that if he maintains, will shatter the UCLA assists record - getting 8 1/2 a game, on pace for over 300 assissts.  Bruin records are 7.6 a game, 236 in a season.   And Drew has an ungodly 5.5:1 assist to Turnover ratio (8 assissts, 1 turnover vs Starks last night).  Kyle was 6 assists 3 turnovers vs Whittington.

Quote from: Poison on November 20, 2012, 01:35:58 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on November 20, 2012, 01:32:40 PM

The kid has played 3 games and he is 2-1 with a loss against a very solid Georgetown team on a neutral floor and some are already writing off his entire career at UCLA and Ben Howland is already fired.

You can't make this stuff up sometimes.

Ben Howland has been doing a horrible job for several years now. You can't make that up.

Not sure "several" is the right word.  Most folks regard "several" as more than a "few".   and  within a "few", you find a a final four.  Within "several", you'll find 3 final fours, five 23+ win seasons, three 30+ win seasons.   The last two years he's 42-25 with a 2nd round Tourney appearnance,  + a 3-1 start to this season.   And for recruiting, he's got  7 McDonalds All Americans on this years squad, and 3 blue chips signed their LOIs last week for next season.

As for Kyle, he's was injured early in his second game - deep bone bruise on the wrist of his shooting/passing hand.  Right now he can't hit the broadside of a barn.    But he IS leading the the in rebouding with over 9 a game.   2nd on the team in assists (he can pass with Either hand).   The reason he's not leading the team is that senior transfer Larry Drew is is setting a pace in assists that if he maintains, will shatter the UCLA assists record - getting 8 1/2 a game, on pace for over 300 assissts.  Bruin records are 7.6 a game, 236 in a season.   And Drew has an ungodly 5.5:1 assist to Turnover ratio (8 assissts, 1 turnover vs Starks last night).  Kyle was 6 assists 3 turnovers vs Whittington.

And Ben got rid of a lot of the crazies from last year. Things have stabilized a bit, but I was a bit surprised by Kyle Sr's comment.  He usually plays it tight to the vest.

Quote from: crgreen on November 20, 2012, 02:03:37 PM

Quote from: Poison on November 20, 2012, 01:35:58 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on November 20, 2012, 01:32:40 PM

The kid has played 3 games and he is 2-1 with a loss against a very solid Georgetown team on a neutral floor and some are already writing off his entire career at UCLA and Ben Howland is already fired.

You can't make this stuff up sometimes.

Ben Howland has been doing a horrible job for several years now. You can't make that up.

Not sure "several" is the right word.  Most folks regard "several" as more than a "few".   and  within a "few", you find a a final four.  Within "several", you'll find 3 final fours, five 23+ win seasons, three 30+ win seasons.   The last two years he's 42-25 with a 2nd round Tourney appearnance,  + a 3-1 start to this season.   And for recruiting, he's got  7 McDonalds All Americans on this years squad, and 3 blue chips signed their LOIs last week for next season.

As for Kyle, he's was injured early in his second game - deep bone bruise on the wrist of his shooting/passing hand.  Right now he can't hit the broadside of a barn.    But he IS leading the the in rebouding with over 9 a game.   2nd on the team in assists (he can pass with Either hand).   The reason he's not leading the team is that senior transfer Larry Drew is is setting a pace in assists that if he maintains, will shatter the UCLA assists record - getting 8 1/2 a game, on pace for over 300 assissts.  Bruin records are 7.6 a game, 236 in a season.   And Drew has an ungodly 5.5:1 assist to Turnover ratio (8 assissts, 1 turnover vs Starks last night).  Kyle was 6 assists 3 turnovers vs Whittington.

And Ben got rid of a lot of the crazies from last year. Things have stabilized a bit, but I was a bit surprised by Kyle Sr's comment.  He usually plays it tight to the vest.

What I don't get about Srs. comment is that Kyle got 3 1/2 assists and 6 rebs for Hurley last year.  He's getting 3 1/2 assists and 9 rebs for Howland.   The only place he's down is scoring, and that has more to do with his 24% FG, 0% 3s and 47% FTs (which, again, I attribute to his injured wrist) than to how he's being "used"....

Right now, Kyle's value is his rebounding - far and away the best on the team.   Drew's ability to handle the Passing duties is allowing Kyle to work the boards - which with the personell as it is, is where he's needed most.   With Shabazz back, that may change - if he takes up some of that rebounding slack, that could free up Kyle for more pg responsibily.  The team is certainly going to evolve as the season progresses.

Lost in all the "Shabazz is back" and "Kyle sucks" hoopla is that frosh Jordan Adams again led the team in scoring.  The first frosh in UCLA history to start his career with 3 straight 20 pt games,stretched the streak to 4, with 22 last night.   Fan board geeks are checking to see if any Bruin freshman has ever had 4 straight 20 pt games....

Kyle obviously can play, but can't see him guarding anyone at next level. His poor foot speed makes Chris Mullin look like Usain Bolt.

Kyle obviously can play, but can't see him guarding anyone at next level. His poor food speed makes Chris Mullin look like Usain Bolt.

I have incredible food speed. After I eat anything I am on the bowl 20 minutes later like clockwork.

Kyle obviously can play, but can't see him guarding anyone at next level. His poor food speed makes Chris Mullin look like Usain Bolt.

I have incredible food speed. After I eat anything I am on the bowl 20 minutes later like clockwork.

Good chinese food will make you.................

Freshman get spoiled now a days. I dont know the ins and outs of UCLA's roster but as mentioned they have some great talent. Kyle, a freshman, expects to walk on to campus, get the keys to the ship & play the position he wants to play? You gotta earn what you get, he's good enough to do it. Dont complain & work hard

Kyle obviously can play, but can't see him guarding anyone at next level. His poor foot speed makes Chris Mullin look like Usain Bolt.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2012, 02:42:41 PM by paultzman »

Why did you edit I like the food speed quote better lol

Kyle obviously can play, but can't see him guarding anyone at next level. His poor foot speed makes Chris Mullin look like Usain Bolt.

When Mullin was younger, like at SJ, and in his first few years in the league, he wasn't slow at all.

When Mullin was younger, like at SJ, and in his first few years in the league, he wasn't slow at all.

Compared to what, a bus stop?

When Mullin was younger, like at SJ, and in his first few years in the league, he wasn't slow at all.

Compared to what, a bus stop?

Nice!

When Mullin was younger, like at SJ, and in his first few years in the league, he wasn't slow at all.

Compared to what, a bus stop?

In all seriousness, did you see Mullin play here?

Quote from: we are sju on November 21, 2012, 10:16:12 AM

When Mullin was younger, like at SJ, and in his first few years in the league, he wasn't slow at all.

Compared to what, a bus stop?

In all seriousness, did you see Mullin play here?

PLEASE IGNORE IF MY UCLA POSTS BOTHER YOU.  I JUST LIKE POSTING SOMEWHERE THAT THE RESPONSE ISN'T  "LAVIN AND HOWLAND SUCK"!

Breakout game for Kyle Anderson tonight -  20 pts, 17 rebounds, 7 asssits, 3 steals and 2 blocks.

Coming out party for 3 Bruin frosh -  Jordan Adams had  25 pts, 7 rebs, 5 assists, and 5 steals.   Shabazz Muhammad had 27 pts and 7 rebs.  And Larry Drew, who came in averaging 8.4 assists with a 5.35:1 Assist to turnover ratio, improved BOTH with 10 assists and 1 turnover.  Now has 102 assists, 19 turnovers in 12 games.

crgreen, who'd they play?

crgreen, who'd they play?

Fresno State.   They have Robert Upshaw at Center this year.    Good looking prospect (he dropped about 30 lbs over spring/summer), but lucky for us he picked Fresno - If he'd picked SJU early, likely no Obekpa for us later in the spring!   

It may take him some time but he is gonna be an outstanding player

@KyleAnderson5: College is all about tellin u what u like to hear then not following thru with it. Im not even gon trip