Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cincinnati Transfer - Bayside, NY

“@NYPost_Brazille: #stjbb's Lavin on recruiting: “If we don’t sign anybody, that’s fine. ... Only going to bring in somebody if they fill a need."”

“@NYPost_Brazille: #stjbb's Lavin on recruiting: “If we don’t sign anybody, that’s fine. ... Only going to bring in somebody if they fill a need."”

Luckily top 20 talent is a need, especially standing 6'9

Here's a need - another player that can create his own offense.

“@nypostsports: RECRUITING CONFIDENTIAL: St. John's has no commitments from 2013 prospects http://t.co/RCcjjFIa”

“@NYPost_Brazille: #stjbb's Lavin on recruiting: “If we don’t sign anybody, that’s fine. ... Only going to bring in somebody if they fill a need."”

Completely disagree with him

Not very encouraging! 
But, He Does have a starting point with a probable 3 players joining the team next year

“@NYPost_Brazille: #stjbb's Lavin on recruiting: “If we don’t sign anybody, that’s fine. ... Only going to bring in somebody if they fill a need."”

I wonder if he still believes that BS after coaching this game

Quote from: paultzman on January 11, 2013, 05:56:18 PM

“@NYPost_Brazille: #stjbb's Lavin on recruiting: “If we don’t sign anybody, that’s fine. ... Only going to bring in somebody if they fill a need."”

Completely disagree with him

Agreed

Starting to sound like Jarvis-the hell with recruiting.

I think the quote simply means that he is going after only Rysheed and Jermaine and if he doesnt get them he would rather bank the scholarships for prospects he feels can help us in 2014 rather than wasting a scholarship on an inferior 2013 player. 

I think the quote simply means that he is going after only Rysheed and Jermaine and if he doesnt get them he would rather bank the scholarships for prospects he feels can help us in 2014 rather than wasting a scholarship on an inferior 2013 player. 

Another reason why Gift is redshirted.

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on January 12, 2013, 05:59:17 PM

I think the quote simply means that he is going after only Rysheed and Jermaine and if he doesnt get them he would rather bank the scholarships for prospects he feels can help us in 2014 rather than wasting a scholarship on an inferior 2013 player. 

Another reason why Gift is redshirted.

Redshirting Gift is without a doubt a gigantic error in judgement. Last year, this team struggled because it had only big man. This year, they are struggling for the same reason. I'm furious w Lavin for being so careless. He got a pass last year, but this season the honeymoon is over.

Quote from: Moose on January 12, 2013, 06:05:51 PM

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on January 12, 2013, 05:59:17 PM

I think the quote simply means that he is going after only Rysheed and Jermaine and if he doesnt get them he would rather bank the scholarships for prospects he feels can help us in 2014 rather than wasting a scholarship on an inferior 2013 player. 

Another reason why Gift is redshirted.

Redshirting Gift is without a doubt a gigantic error in judgement. Last year, this team struggled because it had only big man. This year, they are struggling for the same reason. I'm furious w Lavin for being so careless. He got a pass last year, but this season the honeymoon is over.

Dude how many losses would be wins with him?  1 maybe 2.  Call it an error if you want.  I'd rather have him next year than a reach in '13.

I agree the honeymoon is over and all that but this Gift 2nd guessing needs to stop.

Quote from: Poison on January 12, 2013, 06:25:01 PM

Quote from: Moose on January 12, 2013, 06:05:51 PM

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on January 12, 2013, 05:59:17 PM

I think the quote simply means that he is going after only Rysheed and Jermaine and if he doesnt get them he would rather bank the scholarships for prospects he feels can help us in 2014 rather than wasting a scholarship on an inferior 2013 player. 

Another reason why Gift is redshirted.

Redshirting Gift is without a doubt a gigantic error in judgement. Last year, this team struggled because it had only big man. This year, they are struggling for the same reason. I'm furious w Lavin for being so careless. He got a pass last year, but this season the honeymoon is over.

Dude how many losses would be wins with him?  1 maybe 2.  Call it an error if you want.  I'd rather have him next year than a reach in '13.

I agree the honeymoon is over and all that but this Gift 2nd guessing needs to stop.

I disagree.  Please tell me why he should have redshirted a senior?  How many wins will he add next year?  Dude, according to you not many.  Knowing Lavin has done well with recruits, why not get rid of the scholarship since he is a senior?  He started from scratch in March when he was hired with 9 available scholarships, pretty much all of us fans were satisfied.  Maybe he should have tried to use a post player this year and recruit one for next year?  Are no post players this year better than 1 post player next year?  Knowing Lavin recruiting success here, I'd at least try for Gift now and1 next yr.

Currently, Jones doesnt play at all.  That means Jakarr and Obekpa are the only big guys, and neither plays with their back to the basket?  When one is out Dom, Amir or Felix have to play the 4.  No one on this team can play with their back to the basket.  No one can rebound either.  Gift wasnt great in the post but at least we threw it in the post to him b/c it kept a defense honest and he grabbed a few boards.

Now our offense is what it is, a bunch of crap on the outside, a pick from our 4 or 5, a switch and then hope our man with the ball can take that guy 1-1 with the switch.  It usually ends up in a missed jump shot.  We threw it in the post last year with gift, that doesnt happen at all this year.  He is a senior, if you dont think he's great to add wins that is fine.  That means he wont add wins next year.  Lavin may not be able to distinguish himself as a coach, but he has shown he can recruit.  Instead of redshirting a senior who apparently "wont add many wins"  play him now let him leave and try and recruit someone who can.     


   
 
 

Quote from: Poison on January 12, 2013, 06:25:01 PM

Quote from: Moose on January 12, 2013, 06:05:51 PM

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on January 12, 2013, 05:59:17 PM

I think the quote simply means that he is going after only Rysheed and Jermaine and if he doesnt get them he would rather bank the scholarships for prospects he feels can help us in 2014 rather than wasting a scholarship on an inferior 2013 player. 

Another reason why Gift is redshirted.

Redshirting Gift is without a doubt a gigantic error in judgement. Last year, this team struggled because it had only big man. This year, they are struggling for the same reason. I'm furious w Lavin for being so careless. He got a pass last year, but this season the honeymoon is over.

Dude how many losses would be wins with him?  1 maybe 2.  Call it an error if you want.  I'd rather have him next year than a reach in '13.

I agree the honeymoon is over and all that but this Gift 2nd guessing needs to stop.

I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with you.  In no way am I saying that St. John's would be an 11 or 12 win team with GG playing this year.  But the fact is he is an experienced big man who could give you valuable minutes.  Instead, Lavin has basically opted to go with inexperienced players down low (Sampson and Obekpa) who have been completely outmuscled by older, stronger big men.

Assuming that Zags was right about Lavin knowing in November that Sanchez could be out for the entire season, he handled the GG situation completely wrong.  From afar, it almost looks like Lavin knew this was going to be a disaster season and instead of hitting the recruiting trail hard and finding a replacement for GG for 2013-'14, he convinced the kid to sit out a year in hopes for a better opportunity next year.

1) Lawrence will sign with St Johns
2) Some within the program are trying to convince Lavin to stop recruiting "athletes" and start recruiting basketball players will specific skill sets.
3) If Harrison , Sampson or Obekpa have their sights on the NBA next yr they need to have their head exaimaned.....

1) Lawrence will sign with St Johns
2) Some within the program are trying to convince Lavin to stop recruiting "athletes" and start recruiting basketball players will specific skill sets.
3) If Harrison , Sampson or Obekpa have their sights on the NBA next yr they need to have their head exaimaned.....

 Thanks for update 79. Great news.  We need it.

Things seem to have changed big time with his recruitment since bag gate .. Now he needs to actually play some since he has had a 5 month layoff .

Bag gate?

Quote from: Poison on January 12, 2013, 06:25:01 PM

Quote from: Moose on January 12, 2013, 06:05:51 PM

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on January 12, 2013, 05:59:17 PM

I think the quote simply means that he is going after only Rysheed and Jermaine and if he doesnt get them he would rather bank the scholarships for prospects he feels can help us in 2014 rather than wasting a scholarship on an inferior 2013 player. 

Another reason why Gift is redshirted.

Redshirting Gift is without a doubt a gigantic error in judgement. Last year, this team struggled because it had only big man. This year, they are struggling for the same reason. I'm furious w Lavin for being so careless. He got a pass last year, but this season the honeymoon is over.

Dude how many losses would be wins with him?  1 maybe 2.  Call it an error if you want.  I'd rather have him next year than a reach in '13.

I agree the honeymoon is over and all that but this Gift 2nd guessing needs to stop.

If you are going to be bold enough to do it, you have to have a damn good reason. So far, there isn't one. I wouldn't redshirt gift because he's our only upperclassman. I also wouldn't redshirt DLo because he's our only scorer. When you have one of something, you can't afford to redshirt it. Lavin made a big mistake.

And to answer your question, Gift would have made a difference against Murray State, UNCC, Nova & Rutgers. He's not a world beater, but against shorter teams he was good. He couldn't handle the SU/Gtown/Louisville, and we know that, but this team couldn't afford to redshirt the only upperclassman it had.

It was a horrible mistake on Lavin's part.