Big East Schedule

Comes out tomorrow (Thurs 6/30).  Just the teams your playing not the actual dates.  This is where Pitino picked STJ 1st last year in order to augment the tiers for scheduling purposes.  Any thoughts as to what teams you want to see twice and why?

How many teams do we play twice? 3?   I want Georgetown,Villanova,Louisville

How many teams do we play twice? 3?   I want Georgetown,Villanova,Louisville

Yes 3.
I'm thinking Nova, Rutgers and Prov but its too local and I can see some tweaking based on the tiers to get us playing a farther away team.

Comes out tomorrow (Thurs 6/30).  Just the teams your playing not the actual dates.  This is where Pitino picked STJ 1st last year in order to augment the tiers for scheduling purposes.  Any thoughts as to what teams you want to see twice and why?

Right, this is where the pre-pre-season coaches poll actually takes place.  They do this to get an idea of where people think teams will finish thus base the overall schedule and more importantly the TV schedule for ESPN and CBS which will be based on this (for example Big Monday matchups for ESPN).

Then the official coaches poll takes place on Media Day in October.  But of course the overall schedule and TV dates are already set by then.

Last year it leaked out because as you said Pitino picked SJU #1.  Then when he was outed he vowed to stick with the choice and later picked SJU no. 1 at Media Day as well.

I hope we get either cuse or uconn twice. Will help get a big garden game against one of them. Then probably rutgers or the hall. than maybe a west virginia or notre dame

Last year we played Gtown,Notre Dame and Cincy twice. Does it change every year-meaning we wont be playing any of these 3 twice next season?

Schedule is hard enough, I hope we get depaul, south Florida and providence. Let's give our young guys a chance.

id say get 2 easy, and a moderate. so, usf, providence, and nova.

or throw a local team in there. maybe rutgers.

Schedule is hard enough, I hope we get depaul, south Florida and providence. Let's give our young guys a chance.

I'm with you,but wouldn't that mean we were project to finish near the bottom. In fact to get those  three wouldn't we have to be picked last. Just don't see that happening, in fact one again some of these wiseguys will pick us too high for their own reasons.

Do we seed ourselves? If so I wonder where lavin will put us

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/32500/revealing-the-big-east-league-opponents

I think we got a pretty good deal.  Cincy, DePaul and Gtown.  The full schedule is in the link but here are some observations they posted at the end.

-- The Big East was able to avoid having any team play the same three teams it played twice last season.

-- Syracuse has one of the toughest schedules, with four games against Connecticut and Louisville. Cincinnati and Marquette might be next with the teams playing each other twice, and then the Bearcats playing Villanova and St. John’s twice while Marquette has to play Villanova and Georgetown twice. The Hoyas are rebuilding but will still be formidable in league play. Villanova has to play Marquette and Cincinnati twice each.

-- Connecticut, a possible favorite, might have caught a break. Syracuse home and away will be tough tests. But getting Notre Dame, which lost quite a bit, led by Big East player of the year Ben Hansbrough, will not be as daunting this season. Seton Hall is likely to be a second-division team.

-- The Big East did make life a bit tougher for projected lower-level teams South Florida and DePaul. The Bulls will have to play four games against projected NCAA teams Villanova and Pitt. The Blue Demons have four against Louisville and St. John's.

-- Pitt’s schedule was fair with Louisville being a projected title contender and Notre Dame and West Virginia being fellow retooling teams.

-- If Georgetown is a bubble team in March, it will help playing Marquette twice and possibly St. John’s. Sleeper Rutgers has winnable games against Notre Dame, Seton Hall and West Virginia. St. John’s, which has a loaded nonconference schedule with road games at Kentucky and Duke, will have at least one projected NCAA team in Cincinnati, an unknown against Georgetown and a likely lower-level team DePaul.

-- The Big East did a fair and equitable job in selecting the repeat games. And if you’re a fan of Cincinnati or Marquette, take solace in knowing the league must consider your team to be a conference contender this season.

This is the fourth time in five years that we are playing Cincy twice.  Why?  I know that most of the games with them have been close, but we have no history.  I really wanted a Cuse or a UCONN twice this year, so I could at least get something out of ticket resales (since our home game years with them also match up with Duke).  Now, you get one year of great home games, and one year of not-so-great.  I want it a little more spread out.  Hopefully, ND is home only.

Georgetown twice I understand, but agian, it's the third time in five years playing them twice (fourth if you count the BE tourny two years ago).  I feel like us, Cincy, and Gtown might as well form our own mini-conference, we play them so often.

I guess we could have had a worse schedule, though this doesn't tell you who the home and road onlys are.  I normally would think playing Depaul twice, while others get them once, would hurt our RPI, but our nonconference schedule should take care of that.  I'm just tired of seeing so much of the Bearcats and the Hoyas.  Maybe they should institute a rule: no repeats in consecutive years.

BTW, the addition of TCU next year won't affect the regular-season scheduling too much, for those who are interested.  You will just go from 3 repeat opponents, down to 2.  The BE tourny will be interesting.  Am hearing that 5 games on Tuesday is the most likley plan.

This is the fourth time in five years that we are playing Cincy twice.  Why?  I know that most of the games with them have been close, but we have no history.  I really wanted a Cuse or a UCONN twice this year, so I could at least get something out of ticket resales (since our home game years with them also match up with Duke).  Now, you get one year of great home games, and one year of not-so-great.  I want it a little more spread out.  Hopefully, ND is home only.

Georgetown twice I understand, but agian, it's the third time in five years playing them twice (fourth if you count the BE tourny two years ago).  I feel like us, Cincy, and Gtown might as well form our own mini-conference, we play them so often.

I guess we could have had a worse schedule, though this doesn't tell you who the home and road onlys are.  I normally would think playing Depaul twice, while others get them once, would hurt our RPI, but our nonconference schedule should take care of that.  I'm just tired of seeing so much of the Bearcats and the Hoyas.  Maybe they should institute a rule: no repeats in consecutive years.

BTW, the addition of TCU next year won't affect the regular-season scheduling too much, for those who are interested.  You will just go from 3 repeat opponents, down to 2.  The BE tourny will be interesting.  Am hearing that 5 games on Tuesday is the most likley plan.

Again the games are determined by coaches poll at this stage.  So if coaches keep picking teams in the same tiers for the most part their might not be too much of a difference.  Its not an ideal system but its the system they have.

Quote from: sju61982 on June 30, 2011, 11:03:14 AM

This is the fourth time in five years that we are playing Cincy twice.  Why?  I know that most of the games with them have been close, but we have no history.  I really wanted a Cuse or a UCONN twice this year, so I could at least get something out of ticket resales (since our home game years with them also match up with Duke).  Now, you get one year of great home games, and one year of not-so-great.  I want it a little more spread out.  Hopefully, ND is home only.

Georgetown twice I understand, but agian, it's the third time in five years playing them twice (fourth if you count the BE tourny two years ago).  I feel like us, Cincy, and Gtown might as well form our own mini-conference, we play them so often.

I guess we could have had a worse schedule, though this doesn't tell you who the home and road onlys are.  I normally would think playing Depaul twice, while others get them once, would hurt our RPI, but our nonconference schedule should take care of that.  I'm just tired of seeing so much of the Bearcats and the Hoyas.  Maybe they should institute a rule: no repeats in consecutive years.

BTW, the addition of TCU next year won't affect the regular-season scheduling too much, for those who are interested.  You will just go from 3 repeat opponents, down to 2.  The BE tourny will be interesting.  Am hearing that 5 games on Tuesday is the most likley plan.

Again the games are determined by coaches poll at this stage.  So if coaches keep picking teams in the same tiers for the most part their might not be too much of a difference.  Its not an ideal system but its the system they have.

Coaches poll is used to an extent.  There is no way, however, that you can convince me that the local rivalries of Rutgers/Hall, and PITT/WVU are not taken into account.  Those two matchups meet twice EVERY year.

WVU/Pitt and RU/SHU are set in stone every year.  The BE doesn't hide that, they made that clear awhile back.

BTW-Schedule is out.  Interesting that SJU is @SHU again this year.  Here is my guess on Garden dates.  Syracuse, Villanova, Georgetown, Louisville and ND are LOCKS for MSG.  I believe Cincy, considering how good they are set to be this year will be MSG as well.  And I cannot believe they are going to put Bob Huggins and WVU at tiny Carnesecca.  So could it really be only DePaul and Providence at Carnesecca?
 
 
ST. JOHN’S
 
 
Home
 Cincinnati, DePaul, Georgetown, Louisville, Notre Dame, Providence, Syracuse, Villanova, West Virginia
 
Away
 Cincinnati, Connecticut, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Seton Hall, USF
 
http://www.bigeast.org/News/tabid/435/Article/226828/BIG-EAST-Announces-2011-12-Men-s-Basketball-Schedule-Matchups.aspx

Fordham,

They made up for the Seton Hall part by putting Cuse at MSG only for the 2nd straight year. I think I'd have rather had Cuse and Louisville be road only, switched with maybe Seton Hall and either Rutgers or USF.

We are going to be so young, that we will probably lose to the Orange and the Cards anywhere we would play them, so I think I'd rather kill two birds with one stone.  Conversly, we are still talented enough that wins at home over those two supposdly lesser teams should be givens, but going to their places, we might still win, but it's no given.

Of course, just plain switching those around is not possible, because it would thorw the whole conference schedule off for other teams.  It was just an observation on my part.

It does indeed look like 6 to 3 WRT to MSG games (I still think Cincy gets CA until they prove otherwise), but we could get shafted with one or two of these games, due to lack of dates because of the renovations.  I know getting Cuse on campus will never happen, but nothing would please me more then to see ND or WVU come on to our campus, because, IMO, they have the 2 phoniest fan bases in the Big East.  Yes, they bring in fans, but it's mostly fans of their football teams, who have no idea who their basketball players are.  Just something about that really bugs me.

How did we luck out and get  cuse at home again?

ND on campus will never happen.  Their Subway alumni will never allow that to happen.  Traditional BE schools like a Georgetown and Syracuse are locks, Louisville is going to be a lock every year and they are going to be real good anyway.

I think Cincy is going to get a Garden date but just a guess.

ND on campus will never happen.  Their Subway alumni will never allow that to happen.  Traditional BE schools like a Georgetown and Syracuse are locks, Louisville is going to be a lock every year and they are going to be real good anyway.

I think Cincy is going to get a Garden date but just a guess.

Garden dates might be tough with the construction and the shorter window with Rangers and Knicks.

How many CA Big East games did we have last year?

we played SHU away, last yr Maruette away last year, Cincy 2x last year, Gtown 2x last yr  and all again this yr.