Marquette - Game Thread

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Re: Marquette - Game Thread
« Reply #200 on: January 13, 2012, 10:04:29 AM »

Just so I understand. Phil Greene is overrated? The recruit who was the least heralded coming in? The one who has been a pleasant surprise on all accounts? Sure he's struggling but he was recruited to be a role guy and he's now playing 35mpg. Give me a break.


Yes, but before the beginning of the season we read this from Jon Rothstein (Phillip Greene thread, page 6): St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts.

 So what?

Re: Marquette - Game Thread
« Reply #201 on: January 13, 2012, 07:46:01 PM »
You can give me a break as well while you're at it....Phil Greene is being overrated by some posters on here.  If I had the time, I'd bring up all the posts/threads of people saying how good he will be in a couple of years.  And I'm asking....Based on what???? The kid has looked pretty bad...

Based on him scoring 7 points in under 90 seconds to bring us back vs. Zona.

If that dont make you think he got potential, dont know what will.


*not sure if this is sarcasm*

...carry along.
If you're not a troll, you are the biggest pessimist I've ever encountered. We are 8-8 and have 2 BE wins. One over a very good Cincinnati team, and another over a Providence team that just beat Louisville by 31 points. I think you are missing the point of "potential."

And if you honestly think Harkless is overrated, I don't know what to tell you, you're lost. Did you expect him to be Anthony Davis? Maybe you expected Kevin Durant at Texas?

Is D'Angelo overrated too? The guy who is the catalyst of the team who just won Freshman of the week? Your act is getting old.


When the team plays well im one of the first posters to throw praise in the game threads.  The cincy win was great. 

My issues with the team/Lavin usually revolve aorund the transfers/ineligible players.  But I also think that the posters here are overrating our recruits...what's more ridiculous: me complaining about all the transfers, decommits and ineligbile players or posters talking about the final four next season?

You also need to realize that overrated =/= bad.  I think Derek Jeter is the most overrated baseball player of alltime; it doesn't mean he's not a good player. 

« Last Edit: January 13, 2012, 07:50:30 PM by IllWill »

Re: Marquette - Game Thread
« Reply #202 on: January 13, 2012, 07:48:57 PM »
  I don't understand , from a purely on the court analysis, how anyone can be disappointed with any of these players?..  I boggles my mind.  Do they have room for improvement? Of course, they do.  First year players, playing 30-35 minutes a night in the BE.

 To say you had no expectations, but then say everyone is over rated, seems to be a bit contradictory. Or not?  Carry on.

I'm not dissapointed in any of these players...

Your last sentence makes no sense.   

IllWill= had no expectations, or didn't have great expectations

Posters on Johnny Jungle= overrating some of our recruits.


So, how am I contradicting myself?



Why do you choose to alienate yourself? It seems like you're just asking for trouble.

If you don't like it here, no one is asking you to continually come back and read what they have to say.


Alienating myself on a message board?  C'mon...I'm stating my opinion just like everyone else.  YOU, and others, only choose to look at the negative comments and catch feelings/get upset. 

When did I say I didn't like it here?  Seems like you're just making stuff up at this point...


Re: Marquette - Game Thread
« Reply #203 on: January 13, 2012, 07:52:05 PM »

Just so I understand. Phil Greene is overrated? The recruit who was the least heralded coming in? The one who has been a pleasant surprise on all accounts? Sure he's struggling but he was recruited to be a role guy and he's now playing 35mpg. Give me a break.


Yes, but before the beginning of the season we read this from Jon Rothstein (Phillip Greene thread, page 6): St. John's coach Steve Lavin said freshman guard Phil Greene has been impressive in workouts.

Phil Greene may very well turn out to be a fine player for us down the road, but he's been BAD so far.  You know people are reaching when they point to a NINETY SECOND SPAN IN ONE GAME to show why he's going to be a good player. 

Re: Marquette - Game Thread
« Reply #204 on: January 13, 2012, 08:53:20 PM »
Will,are you sjuwill on Iona board?

Re: Marquette - Game Thread
« Reply #205 on: January 13, 2012, 08:54:55 PM »
You can give me a break as well while you're at it....Phil Greene is being overrated by some posters on here.  If I had the time, I'd bring up all the posts/threads of people saying how good he will be in a couple of years.  And I'm asking....Based on what???? The kid has looked pretty bad...

Based on him scoring 7 points in under 90 seconds to bring us back vs. Zona.

If that dont make you think he got potential, dont know what will.


*not sure if this is sarcasm*

...carry along.
If you're not a troll, you are the biggest pessimist I've ever encountered. We are 8-8 and have 2 BE wins. One over a very good Cincinnati team, and another over a Providence team that just beat Louisville by 31 points. I think you are missing the point of "potential."

And if you honestly think Harkless is overrated, I don't know what to tell you, you're lost. Did you expect him to be Anthony Davis? Maybe you expected Kevin Durant at Texas?

Is D'Angelo overrated too? The guy who is the catalyst of the team who just won Freshman of the week? Your act is getting old.


When the team plays well im one of the first posters to throw praise in the game threads.  The cincy win was great. 

My issues with the team/Lavin usually revolve aorund the transfers/ineligible players.  But I also think that the posters here are overrating our recruits...what's more ridiculous: me complaining about all the transfers, decommits and ineligbile players or posters talking about the final four next season?

You also need to realize that overrated =/= bad.  I think Derek Jeter is the most overrated baseball player of alltime; it doesn't mean he's not a good player.

Funny, most people who would call Derek Jeter overrated are not Yankee fans.

Re: Marquette - Game Thread
« Reply #206 on: January 14, 2012, 09:14:24 AM »

Re: Marquette - Game Thread
« Reply #207 on: January 14, 2012, 09:15:28 AM »
You can give me a break as well while you're at it....Phil Greene is being overrated by some posters on here.  If I had the time, I'd bring up all the posts/threads of people saying how good he will be in a couple of years.  And I'm asking....Based on what???? The kid has looked pretty bad...

Based on him scoring 7 points in under 90 seconds to bring us back vs. Zona.

If that dont make you think he got potential, dont know what will.


*not sure if this is sarcasm*

...carry along.
If you're not a troll, you are the biggest pessimist I've ever encountered. We are 8-8 and have 2 BE wins. One over a very good Cincinnati team, and another over a Providence team that just beat Louisville by 31 points. I think you are missing the point of "potential."

And if you honestly think Harkless is overrated, I don't know what to tell you, you're lost. Did you expect him to be Anthony Davis? Maybe you expected Kevin Durant at Texas?

Is D'Angelo overrated too? The guy who is the catalyst of the team who just won Freshman of the week? Your act is getting old.


When the team plays well im one of the first posters to throw praise in the game threads.  The cincy win was great. 

My issues with the team/Lavin usually revolve aorund the transfers/ineligible players.  But I also think that the posters here are overrating our recruits...what's more ridiculous: me complaining about all the transfers, decommits and ineligbile players or posters talking about the final four next season?

You also need to realize that overrated =/= bad.  I think Derek Jeter is the most overrated baseball player of alltime; it doesn't mean he's not a good player.

Funny, most people who would call Derek Jeter overrated are not Yankee fans.

How is that funny?  It's actually predictable...

Re: Marquette - Game Thread
« Reply #208 on: January 14, 2012, 11:21:07 AM »
You can give me a break as well while you're at it....Phil Greene is being overrated by some posters on here.  If I had the time, I'd bring up all the posts/threads of people saying how good he will be in a couple of years.  And I'm asking....Based on what???? The kid has looked pretty bad...

Based on him scoring 7 points in under 90 seconds to bring us back vs. Zona.

If that dont make you think he got potential, dont know what will.


*not sure if this is sarcasm*

...carry along.
If you're not a troll, you are the biggest pessimist I've ever encountered. We are 8-8 and have 2 BE wins. One over a very good Cincinnati team, and another over a Providence team that just beat Louisville by 31 points. I think you are missing the point of "potential."

And if you honestly think Harkless is overrated, I don't know what to tell you, you're lost. Did you expect him to be Anthony Davis? Maybe you expected Kevin Durant at Texas?

Is D'Angelo overrated too? The guy who is the catalyst of the team who just won Freshman of the week? Your act is getting old.


When the team plays well im one of the first posters to throw praise in the game threads.  The cincy win was great. 

My issues with the team/Lavin usually revolve aorund the transfers/ineligible players.  But I also think that the posters here are overrating our recruits...what's more ridiculous: me complaining about all the transfers, decommits and ineligbile players or posters talking about the final four next season?

You also need to realize that overrated =/= bad.  I think Derek Jeter is the most overrated baseball player of alltime; it doesn't mean he's not a good player.

Funny, most people who would call Derek Jeter overrated are not Yankee fans.

How is that funny?  It's actually predictable...

As Yankee fans do not view Jeter overrated, SJU "fans' definitely do not consider Harkless overrated.