Coaching Carousel Begins

Oh man. Just another example of the supreme hypocrisy of college basketball and BE bylaws.

A signed player can never go to another BE school.

A signed coach can.

Burn this rotten system all down.

SMU is reaching for the stars.  They are going to pursue Buzz Williams.  Now they do have money, no doubt.  Lots of oil money at SMU.  But obviously not a great job so not sure why Buzz would leave Marquette.  He turned down Oklahoma last year.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/smu-mustangs/20120321-smu-hoping-to-lure-marquette-s-buzz-williams-for-vacant-coaching-position.ece

Wow.  I know SMU has money, but that's laughable.   That's a huge step down for Buzz, and he has a good thing going at Marquette.   Reminds me of people in our fan base who thought we had a shot at luring Pitino or Donovan away from their schools.   

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Trey Ziegler is leaving Central Michigan. I think someone mentioned him earlier since he was the coaches son he would bolt.

He's visiting Duke
And I heard UCLA as well being interested.

Trey's shooting percentages (especially his 194-367 FTS - 52.9%) scares UCLA quite a bit - but Trey is considered family.   From  when Trey was 10 years old till he was 15, his dad was Ben Howlands assisstant, first at Pitt, then at UCLA.  Trouble is, he'd arrive as a Jr for the 2014 season.  Tyler Lamb would be a Senior, Norman Powell a Jr at the same position.  They'll likely go with a 2012 or 2013 frosh rather than a transfer at that position.

careful cr, fun's gonna get you.  Too much info that some of us enjoy... 

Yeah, after dealing with eshophageal cancer (and a whole sh**load of similar posters on the UCLA boards), "FUN" just scares me Sh**less.  Pardon my french.

We can get you this shirt -


They have no schmediums - liny89 bought them all 

Damn during down 2.7 mill a year.

Shaka NotsoSmart

Oh man. Just another example of the supreme hypocrisy of college basketball and BE bylaws.

A signed player can never go to another BE school.

A signed coach can.

Burn this rotten system all down.

There are certainly problems with the system. But don't forget that when all of these coaches were 18-22, they had the same priveledges as all of the current players. They paid theirs dues.

AdamZagoria: Names for Wagner: Darren Savino, Scott Spinelli, Kevin Keatts, Bashir Mason, Jared Grasso

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Oh man. Just another example of the supreme hypocrisy of college basketball and BE bylaws.

A signed player can never go to another BE school.

A signed coach can.

Burn this rotten system all down.

To be fair I think the BE would frown on this and would probably make it clear that they are not big fans of this.  Having said that I think it would be a moot point since I cannot believe Williams would leave Marquette for SMU.  Just don't see it.

BTW-For the record if you believe various media reports SJU flirted with the idea of hiring Tim Welsh from Providence back in 2004 prior to hiring Norm Roberts.

Quote from: Choz4Life on March 21, 2012, 04:38:56 PM

Oh man. Just another example of the supreme hypocrisy of college basketball and BE bylaws.

A signed player can never go to another BE school.

A signed coach can.

Burn this rotten system all down.

To be fair I think the BE would frown on this and would probably make it clear that they are not big fans of this.  Having said that I think it would be a moot point since I cannot believe Williams would leave Marquette for SMU.  Just don't see it.

BTW-For the record if you believe various media reports SJU flirted with the idea of hiring Tim Welsh from Providence back in 2004 prior to hiring Norm Roberts.

And Dave Leitao, who was then the DePaul coach (well, they actually interviewed Leitao).

Also - Norm was supposedly offered the SMU job, accepted and then decided against it, only to get offered the St. John's job shortly after.

I'm glad SMU is aiming big, but they should be poaching a good coach from another conference, not our own.  This is war.  SMU needs to get in on it and steal a coach of significance from outside the big east.  Would love SMU to steal Jamie Dixon or Huggins.  Now that would really burn!!

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Quote from: Choz4Life on March 21, 2012, 04:38:56 PM

Oh man. Just another example of the supreme hypocrisy of college basketball and BE bylaws.

A signed player can never go to another BE school.

A signed coach can.

Burn this rotten system all down.

To be fair I think the BE would frown on this and would probably make it clear that they are not big fans of this.  Having said that I think it would be a moot point since I cannot believe Williams would leave Marquette for SMU.  Just don't see it.

BTW-For the record if you believe various media reports SJU flirted with the idea of hiring Tim Welsh from Providence back in 2004 prior to hiring Norm Roberts.

And Dave Leitao, who was then the DePaul coach (well, they actually interviewed Leitao).

Also - Norm was supposedly offered the SMU job, accepted and then decided against it, only to get offered the St. John's job shortly after.

Norm took the SMU job?  I don't ever remember hearing that.

SMU should offer Rick Barnes $5 million a year just to see if he'd consider it.

SMU should offer Rick Barnes $5 million a year just to see if he'd consider it.

Not the worst idea.  Barnes is in that time period where the folks at Texas might start getting impatient with him.  In addition, I'd caution against those who might call SMU a "bad job".  A few years ago, Baylor would have been considered a bad job.  Now their football and bball teams are exploding. 

Quote from: LJSA on March 22, 2012, 01:07:46 AM

SMU should offer Rick Barnes $5 million a year just to see if he'd consider it.

Not the worst idea.  Barnes is in that time period where the folks at Texas might start getting impatient with him.  In addition, I'd caution against those who might call SMU a "bad job".  A few years ago, Baylor would have been considered a bad job.  Now their football and bball teams are exploding.

SMU already had a program go through the death penalty and theres definitely something fishy going on at baylor. i dont think SMU would be willing to put in the "commitment" that Baylor has put into their athletic program

Really cant belive that Shaka Smart turned down Illinois.

Suppose hes waiting for the Kentucky or UCLA jobs ?

Not a Smart move on his part imo

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Quote from: Choz4Life on March 21, 2012, 04:38:56 PM

Oh man. Just another example of the supreme hypocrisy of college basketball and BE bylaws.

A signed player can never go to another BE school.

A signed coach can.

Burn this rotten system all down.

To be fair I think the BE would frown on this and would probably make it clear that they are not big fans of this.  Having said that I think it would be a moot point since I cannot believe Williams would leave Marquette for SMU.  Just don't see it.

BTW-For the record if you believe various media reports SJU flirted with the idea of hiring Tim Welsh from Providence back in 2004 prior to hiring Norm Roberts.

And Dave Leitao, who was then the DePaul coach (well, they actually interviewed Leitao).

Also - Norm was supposedly offered the SMU job, accepted and then decided against it, only to get offered the St. John's job shortly after.

That's right, good point, but like SMU, DePaul was not part of the BE at that point.  And I don't think it was announced yet that they were joining.  Their first year was the 2005-6 season when they along with Louisville, South Florida, Marquette and Cincy joined from Conference USA.

I remember when SJU interviewed him they were very impressed but they got the impression that Leitao was not interested in coaching against his mentor Jim Calhoun.  Of course DePaul would then join join the BE but at that point Leitao had taken the Virginia job anyway.

Some rumors that Carmody was going to get axed at Northwestern but they have decided to bring him back for another year:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/11459848-419/bill-carmody-to-stay-at-northwestern.html

Some rumors that Carmody was going to get axed at Northwestern but they have decided to bring him back for another year:
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/11459848-419/bill-carmody-to-stay-at-northwestern.html

Hardest job in D1?

Quote from: fordham96 on March 22, 2012, 11:43:25 AM

Some rumors that Carmody was going to get axed at Northwestern but they have decided to bring him back for another year:
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/11459848-419/bill-carmody-to-stay-at-northwestern.html

Hardest job in D1?

No question, if not it is in the top 3.  I think among BCS schools it is the hardest.  Still the only BCS (Big 6 conference) school that has not made the NCAA's.  It is like Vandy in football.  Impossible academics and no history of doing well in the sport and then competing with a bunch of huge state schools that have much lower academic standards and much more historical success (Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Indiana etc.)

I think the frustration with Carmody is the last 4 years they have been essentially an NCAA bubble team each year.  Some close losses and unfortunate injuries have derailed them each time and so they have landed each year in the NIT.  So I think the fan base is saying, "Yeah it's tough no doubt but it is clear we can have some success" and perhaps looking at a Vandy in basketball shows that with the right coach you can make the NCAA's every now and then.

Quote from: fordham96 on March 22, 2012, 11:43:25 AM

Some rumors that Carmody was going to get axed at Northwestern but they have decided to bring him back for another year:
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/11459848-419/bill-carmody-to-stay-at-northwestern.html

Hardest job in D1?

Army hands down.