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Quote from: crgreen on April 22, 2012, 09:58:58 PM

On Josiah Turner - had to look thru the whole thread to see if anyone mentioned it.   He finshed his high school career as a teammte of Sir Dom's at QEA.

Feel pretty confident that if SJU is involved with Turner, they've talked to Dom about any issues for Josiah as a teammate, and gotten positive feedback.

To be fair Dom might have known Josiah for like half a year at most.

More than enuf time to know if he want's him as a teammate for 3 more years.

On Josiah Turner - had to look thru the whole thread to see if anyone mentioned it.   He finshed his high school career as a teammte of Sir Dom's at QEA.

Feel pretty confident that if SJU is involved with Turner, they've talked to Dom about any issues for Josiah as a teammate, and gotten positive feedback.

Not only were they teammates but there were serious questions about their academics.  Turner was cleared late in the summer, there was some concern for awhile he would not make it to Arizona.

This one confuses me just a tad.  Absolute talent, but they do have Branch already and he does come with some baggage plus he needs to sit a year.

Quote from: crgreen on April 22, 2012, 09:58:58 PM

On Josiah Turner - had to look thru the whole thread to see if anyone mentioned it.   He finshed his high school career as a teammte of Sir Dom's at QEA.

Feel pretty confident that if SJU is involved with Turner, they've talked to Dom about any issues for Josiah as a teammate, and gotten positive feedback.

Not only were they teammates but there were serious questions about their academics.  Turner was cleared late in the summer, there was some concern for awhile he would not make it to Arizona.

This one confuses me just a tad.  Absolute talent, but they do have Branch already and he does come with some baggage plus he needs to sit a year.

Hey, C'mon.  Not eligible till the 2014 season.  Insurance for when Branch goes league after his All America Sophmore season

Also, yes, Josiah transferred to QEA for academics.   I thought the only quesion with Dom wasn't HIS academics, but the SCHOOL's certification - which was obviously cleared.

I do think we need at least 2 more bigs to have adequate depth. Ideally Nolan and Chandler.  Leave an extra schollie for 2013 forJL plus one.

I would love to have darrick Wood but with Balamou on board I doubt it would be for 2012 or even 2013.  I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on Turner then Greene could move back to 2g if needed.

I do think we need at least 2 more bigs to have adequate depth. Ideally Nolan and Chandler.  Leave an extra schollie for 2013 forJL plus one.

I would love to have darrick Wood but with Balamou on board I doubt it would be for 2012 or even 2013.  I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on Turner then Greene could move back to 2g if needed.

2 more bigs is overkill I think. 1 big and a true center at that is sufficient. No point in bringing in someone who might get recruited over the next yr anyway

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on April 22, 2012, 11:24:14 PM

I do think we need at least 2 more bigs to have adequate depth. Ideally Nolan and Chandler.  Leave an extra schollie for 2013 forJL plus one.

I would love to have darrick Wood but with Balamou on board I doubt it would be for 2012 or even 2013.  I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on Turner then Greene could move back to 2g if needed.

2 more bigs is overkill I think. 1 big and a true center at that is sufficient. No point in bringing in someone who might get recruited over the next yr anyway

Obekpa and/or chandler would get recruited over? I like jermaine lawerence but until he adds some weight to that frame he needs to hit a wing.

Quote from: Moose on April 23, 2012, 12:16:39 AM

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on April 22, 2012, 11:24:14 PM

I do think we need at least 2 more bigs to have adequate depth. Ideally Nolan and Chandler.  Leave an extra schollie for 2013 forJL plus one.

I would love to have darrick Wood but with Balamou on board I doubt it would be for 2012 or even 2013.  I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on Turner then Greene could move back to 2g if needed.

2 more bigs is overkill I think. 1 big and a true center at that is sufficient. No point in bringing in someone who might get recruited over the next yr anyway

Obekpa and/or chandler would get recruited over? I like jermaine lawerence but until he adds some weight to that frame he needs to hit a wing.

No

1 of them is fine. 1 isn't coming so everyone should start moving on. But is it worth it to take a Rhoomes or Nolan when what minutes will they see with big man, Gift, Karr and Sanchez manning the 4 and 5.  Lawrence has a whole year to get older and more mature

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on April 22, 2012, 11:24:14 PM

I do think we need at least 2 more bigs to have adequate depth. Ideally Nolan and Chandler.  Leave an extra schollie for 2013 forJL plus one.

I would love to have darrick Wood but with Balamou on board I doubt it would be for 2012 or even 2013.  I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on Turner then Greene could move back to 2g if needed.

2 more bigs is overkill I think. 1 big and a true center at that is sufficient. No point in bringing in someone who might get recruited over the next yr anyway

If we sign a center and that center is eligible, we'd have one center. If something, anything should happen to that guy, we would have God's Gift in the middle, and IMO that means we'll be getting manhandled in the paint. As a program, let's learn from last year's gross mistake. We have depth everywhere but center. That should be our only priority right now.

We do not need Savon Goodman or Max Hooper. We do not have the luxury of adding a 5th or 6th swingman when we don't have one center.

Quote from: Moose on April 23, 2012, 12:16:39 AM

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on April 22, 2012, 11:24:14 PM

I do think we need at least 2 more bigs to have adequate depth. Ideally Nolan and Chandler.  Leave an extra schollie for 2013 forJL plus one.

I would love to have darrick Wood but with Balamou on board I doubt it would be for 2012 or even 2013.  I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on Turner then Greene could move back to 2g if needed.

2 more bigs is overkill I think. 1 big and a true center at that is sufficient. No point in bringing in someone who might get recruited over the next yr anyway

If we sign a center and that center is eligible, we'd have one center. If something, anything should happen to that guy, we would have God's Gift in the middle, and IMO that means we'll be getting manhandled in the paint. As a program, let's learn from last year's gross mistake. We have depth everywhere but center. That should be our only priority right now.

We do not need Savon Goodman or Max Hooper. We do not have the luxury of adding a 5th or 6th swingman when we don't have one center.

Gift is a backup center.  And perfect for just that. A backup
If news of the center coming here is made then he is eligible. Staff isn't making mistake of last year again
How many centers and how many minutes do other schools have ?

Quote from: Chilleb on April 23, 2012, 12:21:00 AM

Quote from: Moose on April 23, 2012, 12:16:39 AM

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on April 22, 2012, 11:24:14 PM

I do think we need at least 2 more bigs to have adequate depth. Ideally Nolan and Chandler.  Leave an extra schollie for 2013 forJL plus one.

I would love to have darrick Wood but with Balamou on board I doubt it would be for 2012 or even 2013.  I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on Turner then Greene could move back to 2g if needed.

2 more bigs is overkill I think. 1 big and a true center at that is sufficient. No point in bringing in someone who might get recruited over the next yr anyway

Obekpa and/or chandler would get recruited over? I like jermaine lawerence but until he adds some weight to that frame he needs to hit a wing.

No

1 of them is fine. 1 isn't coming so everyone should start moving on. But is it worth it to take a Rhoomes or Nolan when what minutes will they see with big man, Gift, Karr and Sanchez manning the 4 and 5.  Lawrence has a whole year to get older and more mature

With gift moving on and Sanchez only going to be around 2 more years I don't see the harm in adding a guy like rhoomes who wouldn't be an immediate impact anyway. I do still feel as if we lack another scoring wing but I don't see the harm in a guy not getting any burn as a frosh. It's against the new age status quo but I don't think Lav is tryna turn stj into a 1 and done factory. We just recruited a plethora of role guards why not some decorative bigs.

Quote from: Moose on April 23, 2012, 12:27:33 AM

Quote from: Chilleb on April 23, 2012, 12:21:00 AM

Quote from: Moose on April 23, 2012, 12:16:39 AM

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on April 22, 2012, 11:24:14 PM

I do think we need at least 2 more bigs to have adequate depth. Ideally Nolan and Chandler.  Leave an extra schollie for 2013 forJL plus one.

I would love to have darrick Wood but with Balamou on board I doubt it would be for 2012 or even 2013.  I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on Turner then Greene could move back to 2g if needed.

2 more bigs is overkill I think. 1 big and a true center at that is sufficient. No point in bringing in someone who might get recruited over the next yr anyway

Obekpa and/or chandler would get recruited over? I like jermaine lawerence but until he adds some weight to that frame he needs to hit a wing.

No

1 of them is fine. 1 isn't coming so everyone should start moving on. But is it worth it to take a Rhoomes or Nolan when what minutes will they see with big man, Gift, Karr and Sanchez manning the 4 and 5.  Lawrence has a whole year to get older and more mature

With gift moving on and Sanchez only going to be around 2 more years I don't see the harm in adding a guy like rhoomes who wouldn't be an immediate impact anyway. I do still feel as if we lack another scoring wing but I don't see the harm in a guy not getting any burn as a frosh. It's against the new age status quo but I don't think Lav is tryna turn stj into a 1 and done factory. We just recruited a plethora of role guards why not some decorative bigs.

We lost one scorer from last year in Moe and just added Karr and Sanchez. Two versus one. Plus if we get this center he is legit offensive force. Naturally you expect returners to improve throw in Branch and hope the role guards give something in very limited time. Sounds might fine to me. Go into 13 trying for Lawrence and something else more likely no more than 2 man class.

How many bigs do other schools have? More than we do.

If you're talking about Seton Hall and RU, yea, I hear ya, we're right there w them, and that's not what we're building here.

Georgetown always 4 or 5. They had so many that Henry Sims didn't even need to play until his senior year. SU has at least 3. Louisville has two great ones that start. Uconn has Oriakhi and Drummond, but you know that Calhoun isn't careless enough to go into next season with no bigs on the roster. I'm sure he has bigs waiting their turn.

I just don't want to see us get dunked on at will, and I honestly think Gift shouldn't be in the rotation. He is not a BE player.

This cant be taken like its some inside info cause it aint that. but a d1 to d1 transfer is running outta options as the time passes. So usually a d1 to d1 trans is on his best behavior 'cause the safety net of another high level school takin you on aint gonna be there.

Just sayin is all.

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Some of you guys talking about the lack of depth up front make me laugh.  If we land a solid five like Chandler, we will have more than enough up front with Gift backing up center, and both Sampson and Sanchez able to play the five in our system.  I like our chances with a front line of Garret, Sampson and Sanchez if we are rolling out two out of Harrison, Branch, and Greene. 

Why is Orlando Sanchez being billed as a "scorer"? Was he a scorer at Monroe?

Quote from: Chilleb on April 23, 2012, 12:41:12 AM

Quote from: Moose on April 23, 2012, 12:27:33 AM

Quote from: Chilleb on April 23, 2012, 12:21:00 AM

Quote from: Moose on April 23, 2012, 12:16:39 AM

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on April 22, 2012, 11:24:14 PM

I do think we need at least 2 more bigs to have adequate depth. Ideally Nolan and Chandler.  Leave an extra schollie for 2013 forJL plus one.

I would love to have darrick Wood but with Balamou on board I doubt it would be for 2012 or even 2013.  I wouldn't mind us taking a chance on Turner then Greene could move back to 2g if needed.

2 more bigs is overkill I think. 1 big and a true center at that is sufficient. No point in bringing in someone who might get recruited over the next yr anyway

Obekpa and/or chandler would get recruited over? I like jermaine lawerence but until he adds some weight to that frame he needs to hit a wing.

No

1 of them is fine. 1 isn't coming so everyone should start moving on. But is it worth it to take a Rhoomes or Nolan when what minutes will they see with big man, Gift, Karr and Sanchez manning the 4 and 5.  Lawrence has a whole year to get older and more mature

With gift moving on and Sanchez only going to be around 2 more years I don't see the harm in adding a guy like rhoomes who wouldn't be an immediate impact anyway. I do still feel as if we lack another scoring wing but I don't see the harm in a guy not getting any burn as a frosh. It's against the new age status quo but I don't think Lav is tryna turn stj into a 1 and done factory. We just recruited a plethora of role guards why not some decorative bigs.

We lost one scorer from last year in Moe and just added Karr and Sanchez. Two versus one. Plus if we get this center he is legit offensive force. Naturally you expect returners to improve throw in Branch and hope the role guards give something in very limited time. Sounds might fine to me. Go into 13 trying for Lawrence and something else more likely no more than 2 man class.

Karr is very athletic and has a high motor but not so sure how sold I am
On him offensively. Especially in the consistent department. Sanchez is a mystery until I see him I action , he has a knock on him that he dosent play hard all the time and does 11ppg a game in the juco ranks really translate to consistent big east scorer? I think 1 more bonefide scorer preferably on the wing would complement nice to the rest of our defensive minded squad. And it's no secret were lacking down low. As much as I love Jakarr I can't ask a 6'7 195 pound freshmen to fill that huge gap. Think two more bigs makes us pretty clean around the edges.

How many bigs do other schools have? More than we do.

If you're talking about Seton Hall and RU, yea, I hear ya, we're right there w them, and that's not what we're building here.

Georgetown always 4 or 5. They had so many that Henry Sims didn't even need to play until his senior year. SU has at least 3. Louisville has two great ones that start. Uconn has Oriakhi and Drummond, but you know that Calhoun isn't careless enough to go into next season with no bigs on the roster. I'm sure he has bigs waiting their turn.

I just don't want to see us get dunked on at will, and I honestly think Gift shouldn't be in the rotation. He is not a BE player.

SU went , fab melo, Christams, Coleman back to back to back

Why is Orlando Sanchez being billed as a "scorer"? Was he a scorer at Monroe?

You yourself have said you haven't seem him play. You read these boards everyday yet you don't recall a number of posters myself included who mentione how the Monroe backcourt hadn't met a shot they never liked. He didn't get picked for his National team by accident.

Just wondering will you ever be happy with this basketball team ?

Quote from: Poison on April 23, 2012, 12:50:06 AM

How many bigs do other schools have? More than we do.

If you're talking about Seton Hall and RU, yea, I hear ya, we're right there w them, and that's not what we're building here.

Georgetown always 4 or 5. They had so many that Henry Sims didn't even need to play until his senior year. SU has at least 3. Louisville has two great ones that start. Uconn has Oriakhi and Drummond, but you know that Calhoun isn't careless enough to go into next season with no bigs on the roster. I'm sure he has bigs waiting their turn.

I just don't want to see us get dunked on at will, and I honestly think Gift shouldn't be in the rotation. He is not a BE player.

SU went , fab melo, Christams, Coleman back to back to back

Yea and played Melo and Rakeem at once. Jimmy knew Melo wouldn't be around so it's easy to bring in Coleman. If Melo was still going to be around I don't see Coleman coming and if he did someone would not be happy.

If we bring in 2 bigs either the big is good and eats into PT of the 3's and 4's right on down the depth chart. Only so many minutes to go around.

Remember unhappy players leave and players leaving is bad APR. Bad APR is hello Uconn right now

Quote from: Poison on April 23, 2012, 12:57:58 AM

Why is Orlando Sanchez being billed as a "scorer"? Was he a scorer at Monroe?

You yourself have said you haven't seem him play. You read these boards everyday yet you don't recall a number of posters myself included who mentione how the Monroe backcourt hadn't met a shot they never liked. He didn't get picked for his National team by accident.

Just wondering will you ever be happy with this basketball team ?

We are coming off a 13 win season in which our best player jumped ship after one season. I'm happy, and I'm cautiously optimistic about 12-13 being a better season. I respect the rules of the board/site, but that doesn't mean I can't recognize a problem, when there's a clear one.

No, I haven't seen Sanchez play, and I hadn't seen Gift play when he was talked up like the next Shaq. We beat out Providence and Auburn for Sanchez. I expect he'll be a valuable role player, and I'd be stunned if I was wrong. Usually, I'm not.

Quote from: Chilleb on April 23, 2012, 12:59:54 AM

Quote from: Poison on April 23, 2012, 12:50:06 AM

How many bigs do other schools have? More than we do.

If you're talking about Seton Hall and RU, yea, I hear ya, we're right there w them, and that's not what we're building here.

Georgetown always 4 or 5. They had so many that Henry Sims didn't even need to play until his senior year. SU has at least 3. Louisville has two great ones that start. Uconn has Oriakhi and Drummond, but you know that Calhoun isn't careless enough to go into next season with no bigs on the roster. I'm sure he has bigs waiting their turn.

I just don't want to see us get dunked on at will, and I honestly think Gift shouldn't be in the rotation. He is not a BE player.

SU went , fab melo, Christams, Coleman back to back to back

Yea and played Melo and Rakeem at once. Jimmy knew Melo wouldn't be around so it's easy to bring in Coleman. If Melo was still going to be around I don't see Coleman coming and if he did someone would not be happy.

If we bring in 2 bigs either the big is good and eats into PT of the 3's and 4's right on down the depth chart. Only so many minutes to go around.

Remember unhappy players leave and players leaving is bad APR. Bad APR is hello Uconn right now

So your insinuating that after we land one more big the rest of the ships should go to 13? Let me ask you this, when 3'angelo isn't in the game whose our next best offensive threat and when you answer that ask yourself if that player is exceptionally offensively gifted at the big east level.