Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #80 on: July 02, 2012, 11:56:52 AM »
speaking of Postell (loved his tenacity and defensive prowess, easily my favorite player of that era) it seems he has started a sports and entertainment talent agency down in Georgia...giving us a little shoutout on the home page.....http://www.lavorpostell.com/

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #81 on: July 02, 2012, 01:31:54 PM »
He's the 12th man on the roster next season. Would I have liked for our 12th guy to be someone I've heard of, or the talentless son of a former Redmen great? Sure, but I won't criticize this move.

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or the talentless son of a former Redmen great?

really? I always hate the idea of having former players coach, or having former players kids get drafted/recruited, unless they are seriously talented. It just gets weird. I hear people say they want Leetch to get an assistant job with the Rangers, Messier to be the GM, Patrick Ewing or Mark Jackson to coach the Knicks. But what happens when/if those guys can't perform the job? Now you have to fire a legend and everybody gets all weird and it just becomes an uncomfortable situation for all.

I really like this kid Jones. I think CR summed up his skillset based on that highlight reel quite nicely.

In an ordinary year, the 13th (12th for us this season) man isn't seeing daylight. If your 13th man is actually talented he'll probably transfer from lack of playing time. I like to keep transfers to a minimum personally.

I also prefer to just have 11 guys every year instead of 13, but Lavin's the coach.

If Jones is better than everyone thinks, we'll probably lose someone else to transfer, and I'm more attached to every one of our other players because they didn't come out of the blue.

Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #82 on: July 02, 2012, 01:59:36 PM »
I forget, was Lavor Postell ranked in high school?

He was rated in the 60 to 75 range.

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #83 on: July 02, 2012, 02:51:08 PM »
Really don't get this at all..... He isn't even rated on Rivals or any major recruiting service. Pretty hard to believe any major talent can go under the radar like this.

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #84 on: July 02, 2012, 03:00:48 PM »
“@AdamZagoria: Christian Jones Talks St. John's Commitment http://t.co/XkoVKrln

Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #85 on: July 02, 2012, 03:03:29 PM »
OMG! a great athlete off the bench in the 12th spot, what are they thinking!!! lol but seriously are there any top 150 players that would want to be the 12th or 13th guy? lets trust the staff on this one. Unless of course we want walk-on's for the 7-12 spot again.

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #86 on: July 02, 2012, 03:04:34 PM »
“@AdamZagoria: Christian Jones Talks St. John's Commitment http://t.co/XkoVKrln

Now he's 6-7.  Man Zags needs a new tape measure.
Remember who broke the Slice news

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #87 on: July 02, 2012, 03:05:35 PM »
“@AdamZagoria: Christian Jones Talks St. John's Commitment http://t.co/XkoVKrln

Also hope posters notice no mention of Wood.
Remember who broke the Slice news

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #88 on: July 02, 2012, 03:07:30 PM »
“@AdamZagoria: Christian Jones Talks St. John's Commitment http://t.co/XkoVKrln

Now he's 6-7.  Man Zags needs a new tape measure.

As soon as I posted, I knew you would jump all over that! ha!

Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #89 on: July 02, 2012, 04:55:32 PM »
Welcome aboard Chris!! I trust Lavin and staff regardless of rankings.

Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #90 on: July 02, 2012, 06:38:29 PM »
Welcome aboard Chris!! I trust Lavin and staff regardless of rankings.
+1,000

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #91 on: July 02, 2012, 07:24:14 PM »
“@AdamZagoria: Christian Jones Talks St. John's Commitment http://t.co/XkoVKrln

Also hope posters notice no mention of Wood.

Yeah, but if this kid is REALLY 6'7 220 now, this was a no-brainer.

This was SUPPOSED to be uner Moose's  "zag's tape measue" comment.  Sorry.
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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #92 on: July 02, 2012, 07:32:41 PM »
I have never seen this kid, but feel fine about him joining us. IMO, he appears to have the athleticism and size to compete down the road in the BE. The recruitment of Max Hooper, on the other hand, had more to do with making JaKarr happy than potential. I know Max can shoot, but I just don't see him succeeding in an up temp style in a rugged league. Hope I am wrong on this. My gut tells me Jones will get the job done, if he is willing to wait his turn.

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #93 on: July 02, 2012, 07:58:50 PM »
I have never seen this kid, but feel fine about him joining us. IMO, he appears to have the athleticism and size to compete down the road in the BE. The recruitment of Max Hooper, on the other hand, had more to do with making JaKarr happy than potential. I know Max can shoot, but I just don't see him succeeding in an up temp style in a rugged league. Hope I am wrong on this. My gut tells me Jones will get the job done, if he is willing to wait his turn.

+1

Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #94 on: July 02, 2012, 08:13:04 PM »
“@AdamZagoria: Christian Jones Talks St. John's Commitment http://t.co/XkoVKrln

Now he's 6-7.  Man Zags needs a new tape measure.
in another month he will referred to on our sites as a 6ft11 245 pound kevin garnett clone :)

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #95 on: July 02, 2012, 08:15:30 PM »
I have never seen this kid, but feel fine about him joining us. IMO, he appears to have the athleticism and size to compete down the road in the BE. The recruitment of Max Hooper, on the other hand, had more to do with making JaKarr happy than potential. I know Max can shoot, but I just don't see him succeeding in an up temp style in a rugged league. Hope I am wrong on this. My gut tells me Jones will get the job done, if he is willing to wait his turn.

I REALLY have no problem with this type of kid as the 11th-12th-13th guy on the bench.  His size and atheleticism helps the team, even if he never sees more than garbage minutes.  How much faster would Mo and  Gift and Amir have progressed last year if they'd had THIS kid with his size and bulk  to bang against in practice all year,  instead of Sam Sealy?

And I think folks are getting cofused with the "only had offers from Auburn and Ok State".   There's no doubt in my mind those were his only major conference offers, not his only offers.    There are over 350 Division 1 schools.   I think, JUST based on the highlight clips, there are 175 of those that would be THRILLED to have landed this kid as their PRIMARY recruit.

Every year in the dance there's a low D-1 team that thows a scare into a top team, maybe even knocks one off.   They do it with kids like this - under the radar kids, late developing kids.   I remember Hampton making waves a few years ago with a three kids who'd gone under the radar.   A big kid named Tarvis Williams led D-1 in shot blocking that year, PG Marsellius Brown, and SG Tommy Adams gave them an OUTSTANDING backcourt.   A 15 seed knocked off 2-seed Iowa State.    Those kids could have played for any D-1 team.  Maybe not at 3 and 4 year starters, but as contributors.     

There are TONS of GOOD ballplayers outside the "top 150" rankings.   Just think about it.   350+ D 1 teams.  13 rides per team.  That means there's a turnover of  3.25 players per team per year (yes, this is simplified math - not meant to be specific, just to give a general perception).   In other words, there are nearly 1,200 scholarship-level D-1 players entering college EACH YEAR.    At the top 50 schools alone, there are 162.   If EVERY top 150 player in the senior class went to JUST that seasons NCAA tourney teams,  those 68 schools would STILL have to find SEVENTY ONE more freshman to fill up their rosters - and that would leave almost THREE HUNDRED D-1 Schools to fill their entire quota's  - nearly A THOUSAND additional d-1 scholarship non-top 150 players.
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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #96 on: July 02, 2012, 08:33:15 PM »
Forgetting for a minute that he's not "under the radar", he's not even on the radar.  (Zero stars from Rivals)

But why a combo forward?    I trust the staff.   But I really think if we were going to take an under the radar player with a big upside to round out the roster, we need a backup pg or true center more than another combo guy.   

I'm not against taking chances.   I just think this roster isn't entirely balanced.   If you want to keep the athletic, good defense theme going, that's fine... I like having a team of thorough-breads, but then go grab a bouncy kid who can dribble as your 13th scholarship.   We don't have very many ballhandlers.   That would fill a need.

But, all my b*&ching aside, I do trust the staff.   So let's just wait and see how this turns out.   I do find it puzzling though. 

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #97 on: July 02, 2012, 10:10:16 PM »
I have never seen this kid, but feel fine about him joining us. IMO, he appears to have the athleticism and size to compete down the road in the BE. The recruitment of Max Hooper, on the other hand, had more to do with making JaKarr happy than potential. I know Max can shoot, but I just don't see him succeeding in an up temp style in a rugged league. Hope I am wrong on this. My gut tells me Jones will get the job done, if he is willing to wait his turn.
Hooper is a 3 pt specialist. Might be better at shooting the 3 then D LO. There are going to be times when that skill is going to come in handy. I think people are overrating athleticism. Chris Mullin would be one of the worse athletes on the team, but the best BB player.
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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #98 on: July 02, 2012, 10:30:36 PM »
I have never seen this kid, but feel fine about him joining us. IMO, he appears to have the athleticism and size to compete down the road in the BE. The recruitment of Max Hooper, on the other hand, had more to do with making JaKarr happy than potential. I know Max can shoot, but I just don't see him succeeding in an up temp style in a rugged league. Hope I am wrong on this. My gut tells me Jones will get the job done, if he is willing to wait his turn.
Hooper is a 3 pt specialist. Might be better at shooting the 3 then D LO. There are going to be times when that skill is going to come in handy. I think people are overrating athleticism. Chris Mullin would be one of the worse athletes on the team, but the best BB player.

Think the comparison for Lavin would be Billy Knight, part of his first recruiting class along with OTHER guards/wings Baron Davis, Earl Watson, Schea Cotton, Rico Hines, Todd Ramasaar, and transfer Moose Bailey.  Billy was the UNRANKED player among those SEVEN players (yes, snide comment by me re some posts on unbalanced recruiting).  He was perceived as slow, and unathletic.  But as a redshirt Junior Billy won a starting spot halfway thru the season, and as a senior was the starting SG - averaging over 14 a game - a career 41% 3 pt shooter.   Never made the League, but had a nice pro career anyway, including several years with the Globetrotters.

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Re: Christian Jones - PF - IMG Academy - Arlington, TX - ST. JOHN'S
« Reply #99 on: July 04, 2012, 03:19:14 PM »
Not sure what this means, but passing it along. it was posted at 3pm ET.
Hopefully it has nothing to do w SJU.

“@TooRealC_Jones: Big set back”
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