Best backcourt in Big East?

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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2012, 08:44:49 PM »
I think Boatwright blows up this season for Uconn. I think he goes pro after this season.  Their backcourt is small, but athletic and can shoot.

I don't think it's possible to foul them hard enough

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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2012, 08:54:20 PM »
Ryan Boatright will probably try to go pro but he's crazy.  He's listed at 6'"0" but he's no taller than 5'9".  He's most likely going to go undrafted if he declares for the pros.  Nice player, but not generally what the NBA places a premium on.

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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2012, 08:55:51 PM »
I think Boatwright blows up this season for Uconn. I think he goes pro after this season.  Their backcourt is small, but athletic and can shoot.

I don't think it's possible to foul them hard enough

They are also real tiny and might struggle vs bigger backcourts. Our entire backcourt is 6'2"+.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2012, 08:56:35 PM by MCNPA »

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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2012, 08:17:37 AM »
I think Boatwright blows up this season for Uconn. I think he goes pro after this season.  Their backcourt is small, but athletic and can shoot.

We have not had that kind of height in decades
I don't think it's possible to foul them hard enough

They are also real tiny and might struggle vs bigger backcourts. Our entire backcourt is 6'2"+.

Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2012, 12:03:53 PM »
\Quote from: MCNPA on July 27, 2012, 01:12:32 AM
Just D'Lo and Branch?  Nobody giving Greene any respect?  He's a real good young combo guard. 

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Phil is gonna shock some people this year. The best backcourt in the Big East Phil, DLo, Jamal, and Dom.

I agree with you regarding Phil, hell be greatly improved this season IMO. And if Dom ever becomes a good enough shooter to play the SG spot he would be a beast and would allow for so many more lineup possibilities.
Dom can play back court "D" right now and will change games with Greene alongside him.  Opponents will struggle bringing it up against them.  A super 6th and 7th man combo to go with our shooters.  Droool!

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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2012, 12:09:02 PM »
\Quote from: MCNPA on July 27, 2012, 01:12:32 AM
Just D'Lo and Branch?  Nobody giving Greene any respect?  He's a real good young combo guard. 

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Phil is gonna shock some people this year. The best backcourt in the Big East Phil, DLo, Jamal, and Dom.

I agree with you regarding Phil, hell be greatly improved this season IMO. And if Dom ever becomes a good enough shooter to play the SG spot he would be a beast and would allow for so many more lineup possibilities.
Dom can play back court "D" right now and will change games with Greene alongside him.  Opponents will struggle bringing it up against them.  A super 6th and 7th man combo to go with our shooters.  Droool!

Stop drooling.

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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2012, 12:19:19 PM »
Until Dom shows he can handle the ball, I don't know how anyone calls him a back-court player.    Right now, if he's on the court, you still need two guards.
Don't get me wrong - there's a lot to love about him - great D and a world class athlete, but he's got to show some improvement in the half court offensively.   

Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2012, 12:19:52 PM »
\Quote from: MCNPA on July 27, 2012, 01:12:32 AM
Just D'Lo and Branch?  Nobody giving Greene any respect?  He's a real good young combo guard. 

Panther2 Quote
Phil is gonna shock some people this year. The best backcourt in the Big East Phil, DLo, Jamal, and Dom.

I agree with you regarding Phil, hell be greatly improved this season IMO. And if Dom ever becomes a good enough shooter to play the SG spot he would be a beast and would allow for so many more lineup possibilities.
Dom can play back court "D" right now and will change games with Greene alongside him.  Opponents will struggle bringing it up against them.  A super 6th and 7th man combo to go with our shooters.  Droool!

I've never doubted Dom's ability on D and never will, but a shooting guard has got to give you some production offensively, unless you have an explosive scoring wing alongside of him.
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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2012, 03:14:54 PM »
If Dom is your shooting guard you're in trouble, unless he improved greatly from last year. I want my shooting guard to be able to shoot and at least be able to take a couple of dribbles.

Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2012, 10:20:47 AM »
If Dom is your shooting guard you're in trouble, unless he improved greatly from last year. I want my shooting guard to be able to shoot and at least be able to take a couple of dribbles.
I expect Dom to be a freewheeling 6th man defensive stopper without a position per se.  He'll get his pts on turnovers and breakaways.  He'll be super valuable in that role and if he embraces it he could make the league.  Athletic unselfish defenders with size are at a premium.  If his shot improves it's just icing on the cake.

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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2012, 10:35:15 AM »
Once Branch is up and running, you would think, he and D Lo would be at the top of the Big East in terms of a backcourt. I agree that Dom and Phil will be the first two off bench along with the front court guys not starting.

To start the season I would expect Greene, D Lo, Garrett, Sampson and Gift to start with Sanchez and Pointer first off bench. 

Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2012, 09:37:39 PM »
Georgetown's back court will surprise people this year.

Markel Starks 6'2" is going to be a consistent scoring threat rather than hit or miss like he was last year.
D'Vauntes Smith Rivera 6'3" is instant offense. Great Scorer. He's similar to Austin Freeman but shorter and a better handle.
Jabril Trawick 6'5"  has improved his handle and play making skills.
6'8" Greg Whittington has a good chance of being the starting SG. He played there plenty last year and looks even better this year.

I think ND, Louisville will be other top back courts.

I'm not a fan of marquette's back court outside of Mayo who they just got back from suspension.

The BE is loaded at guard especially PG. Everyone has a good to very good PG except for Seton Hall. They're literally the only team in the BE with out a quality PG.

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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2012, 09:47:37 PM »
Georgetown's back court will surprise people this year.

Markel Starks 6'2" is going to be a consistent scoring threat rather than hit or miss like he was last year.
D'Vauntes Smith Rivera 6'3" is instant offense. Great Scorer. He's similar to Austin Freeman but shorter and a better handle.
Jabril Trawick 6'5"  has improved his handle and play making skills.
6'8" Greg Whittington has a good chance of being the starting SG. He played there plenty last year and looks even better this year.

I think ND, Louisville will be other top back courts.

I'm not a fan of marquette's back court outside of Mayo who they just got back from suspension.

The BE is loaded at guard especially PG. Everyone has a good to very good PG except for Seton Hall. They're literally the only team in the BE with out a quality PG.

Any thoughts on our backcourt?
Or just feedback on the rest of the BE :)
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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2012, 09:49:54 PM »
Georgetown's back court will surprise people this year.

Markel Starks 6'2" is going to be a consistent scoring threat rather than hit or miss like he was last year.
D'Vauntes Smith Rivera 6'3" is instant offense. Great Scorer. He's similar to Austin Freeman but shorter and a better handle.
Jabril Trawick 6'5"  has improved his handle and play making skills.
6'8" Greg Whittington has a good chance of being the starting SG. He played there plenty last year and looks even better this year.

I think ND, Louisville will be other top back courts.

I'm not a fan of marquette's back court outside of Mayo who they just got back from suspension.

The BE is loaded at guard especially PG. Everyone has a good to very good PG except for Seton Hall. They're literally the only team in the BE with out a quality PG.

Im not sure if I like starks as a point guard. To be honest with you I think he would be great as a third guard off the bench.
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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2012, 10:08:16 PM »
Georgetown's back court will surprise people this year.

Markel Starks 6'2" is going to be a consistent scoring threat rather than hit or miss like he was last year.
D'Vauntes Smith Rivera 6'3" is instant offense. Great Scorer. He's similar to Austin Freeman but shorter and a better handle.
Jabril Trawick 6'5"  has improved his handle and play making skills.
6'8" Greg Whittington has a good chance of being the starting SG. He played there plenty last year and looks even better this year.

I think ND, Louisville will be other top back courts.

I'm not a fan of marquette's back court outside of Mayo who they just got back from suspension.

The BE is loaded at guard especially PG. Everyone has a good to very good PG except for Seton Hall. They're literally the only team in the BE with out a quality PG.

Im not sure if I like starks as a point guard. To be honest with you I think he would be great as a third guard off the bench.

Know someone who saw Starks over the summer and said he looked much improved.
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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2012, 02:01:33 PM »
Georgetown's back court will surprise people this year.

Markel Starks 6'2" is going to be a consistent scoring threat rather than hit or miss like he was last year.
D'Vauntes Smith Rivera 6'3" is instant offense. Great Scorer. He's similar to Austin Freeman but shorter and a better handle.
Jabril Trawick 6'5"  has improved his handle and play making skills.
6'8" Greg Whittington has a good chance of being the starting SG. He played there plenty last year and looks even better this year.

I think ND, Louisville will be other top back courts.

I'm not a fan of marquette's back court outside of Mayo who they just got back from suspension.

The BE is loaded at guard especially PG. Everyone has a good to very good PG except for Seton Hall. They're literally the only team in the BE with out a quality PG.

Any thoughts on our backcourt?
Or just feedback on the rest of the BE :)

Well if you want my opinion you're not going to like it.

I'm not a huge fan of your back court. A large portion of that is because I know nothing about the quality of Branch.
Not a fan of Greene and I think Harrison is a good player but a little overrated. But I'm sure that opinion is biased by his poor performance in his first game against Georgetown Last year (5pts on 1-12 shooting).  Just seems like a high volume scorer. Definitely a quality player but not as amazing as many here seem to think.

Is Balamou expected to contribute at all?


It's obviously very hard to know because you guys know your team and their development better than I do. I just don't like your back court that much in terms of being one of the best in the BE.

Obviously No one's going to like this opinion, but you asked.

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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2012, 02:09:01 PM »
Georgetown's back court will surprise people this year.

Markel Starks 6'2" is going to be a consistent scoring threat rather than hit or miss like he was last year.
D'Vauntes Smith Rivera 6'3" is instant offense. Great Scorer. He's similar to Austin Freeman but shorter and a better handle.
Jabril Trawick 6'5"  has improved his handle and play making skills.
6'8" Greg Whittington has a good chance of being the starting SG. He played there plenty last year and looks even better this year.

I think ND, Louisville will be other top back courts.

I'm not a fan of marquette's back court outside of Mayo who they just got back from suspension.

The BE is loaded at guard especially PG. Everyone has a good to very good PG except for Seton Hall. They're literally the only team in the BE with out a quality PG.

Any thoughts on our backcourt?
Or just feedback on the rest of the BE :)

Well if you want my opinion you're not going to like it.

I'm not a huge fan of your back court. A large portion of that is because I know nothing about the quality of Branch.
Not a fan of Greene and I think Harrison is a good player but a little overrated. But I'm sure that opinion is biased by his poor performance in his first game against Georgetown Last year (5pts on 1-12 shooting).  Just seems like a high volume scorer. Definitely a quality player but not as amazing as many here seem to think.

Is Balamou expected to contribute at all?


It's obviously very hard to know because you guys know your team and their development better than I do. I just don't like your back court that much in terms of being one of the best in the BE.

Obviously No one's going to like this opinion, but you asked.


Ha I'll let the inmates respond.  Should have expected that response.
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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2012, 02:51:07 PM »
Georgetown's back court will surprise people this year.

Markel Starks 6'2" is going to be a consistent scoring threat rather than hit or miss like he was last year.
D'Vauntes Smith Rivera 6'3" is instant offense. Great Scorer. He's similar to Austin Freeman but shorter and a better handle.
Jabril Trawick 6'5"  has improved his handle and play making skills.
6'8" Greg Whittington has a good chance of being the starting SG. He played there plenty last year and looks even better this year.

I think ND, Louisville will be other top back courts.

I'm not a fan of marquette's back court outside of Mayo who they just got back from suspension.

The BE is loaded at guard especially PG. Everyone has a good to very good PG except for Seton Hall. They're literally the only team in the BE with out a quality PG.

Any thoughts on our backcourt?
Or just feedback on the rest of the BE :)

Well if you want my opinion you're not going to like it.

I'm not a huge fan of your back court. A large portion of that is because I know nothing about the quality of Branch.
Not a fan of Greene and I think Harrison is a good player but a little overrated. But I'm sure that opinion is biased by his poor performance in his first game against Georgetown Last year (5pts on 1-12 shooting).  Just seems like a high volume scorer. Definitely a quality player but not as amazing as many here seem to think.

Is Balamou expected to contribute at all?


It's obviously very hard to know because you guys know your team and their development better than I do. I just don't like your back court that much in terms of being one of the best in the BE.

Obviously No one's going to like this opinion, but you asked.

I think there are only 4 PGs in the big east that were ranked higher at their position as hs recruits (according to ESPN) - siva, arcidiacono (nova), james robinson (pitt), and kris dunn (prov)... and three of them are freshmen.

We don't really know what Branch will be like either since we haven't seen him.  But, on paper, Branch plus Harrison is undoubtedly top half of the conference.


Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2012, 03:24:27 PM »
Dont think Branch + Harrison would yet be considered top 5 in BE.
Because of our youth & new players- dont care where were rated now-only next march

Branch is unproven & Harrison's stats were inflated last year.


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Re: Best backcourt in Big East?
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2012, 03:25:51 PM »
Georgetown's back court will surprise people this year.

Markel Starks 6'2" is going to be a consistent scoring threat rather than hit or miss like he was last year.
D'Vauntes Smith Rivera 6'3" is instant offense. Great Scorer. He's similar to Austin Freeman but shorter and a better handle.
Jabril Trawick 6'5"  has improved his handle and play making skills.
6'8" Greg Whittington has a good chance of being the starting SG. He played there plenty last year and looks even better this year.

I think ND, Louisville will be other top back courts.

I'm not a fan of marquette's back court outside of Mayo who they just got back from suspension.

The BE is loaded at guard especially PG. Everyone has a good to very good PG except for Seton Hall. They're literally the only team in the BE with out a quality PG.

Any thoughts on our backcourt?
Or just feedback on the rest of the BE :)

Well if you want my opinion you're not going to like it.

I'm not a huge fan of your back court. A large portion of that is because I know nothing about the quality of Branch.
Not a fan of Greene and I think Harrison is a good player but a little overrated. But I'm sure that opinion is biased by his poor performance in his first game against Georgetown Last year (5pts on 1-12 shooting).  Just seems like a high volume scorer. Definitely a quality player but not as amazing as many here seem to think.

Is Balamou expected to contribute at all?


It's obviously very hard to know because you guys know your team and their development better than I do. I just don't like your back court that much in terms of being one of the best in the BE.

Obviously No one's going to like this opinion, but you asked.

I think there are only 4 PGs in the big east that were ranked higher at their position as hs recruits (according to ESPN) - siva, arcidiacono (nova), james robinson (pitt), and kris dunn (prov)... and three of them are freshmen.

We don't really know what Branch will be like either since we haven't seen him.  But, on paper, Branch plus Harrison is undoubtedly top half of the conference.

Nice post Chudney.   I think this is a very balanced view.
I'd agree, on paper Harrison and Branch have to be seen as top half of the conference.  Untill proven otherwise.

But it's also true that Branch is largely an unknown to us.     He played 11 games for A&M, and had 5 steals and 30 assists.   Sorry, but that's not a big enough sample size for me.   He could be very talented yet, but we're estimating his value almost entirely off his high school resume right now. 

Like almost every player on our roster other than D'angelo... Branch has some proving to do.