Out of the 5, who finishes ahead the rest in Big East?

i think sh is trying to get gibbs this year on a hardship waiver.  does anybody know anything about that.  if he comes this year, i believe they jump over nova and providence. 

Quote from: MCNPA on August 03, 2012, 07:01:41 PM

Quote from: zimzimma16 on August 03, 2012, 01:40:14 PM

Quote from: MCNPA on August 02, 2012, 09:09:01 PM

"Agree with Moose.  RU has frontcourt issues.  No proven player's there.  SJU has a plethora of both frontcourt and backcourt options.  I do like RU's young backcourt players, but if they don't have a frontcourt, they will resort to chucking from the outside.  Biruta was a bigger loss than many realize.  He was their only legit frontcourt player and left."

SJU has little to no proven players in the frontcourt either (far from a plethora). 

Guardplay is the difference between all teams in the bottom half of the BE and Pukon has a top 5 backcourt in the BE.  They will finsih ahead of everyone listed with SJU close second.

I don't agree.  Uconn's frontcourt is proven...that they have nobody.  Enosch Wolf?  After that there's the strong bean Phil Nolan at 6'8" and about 190.  Uconn had the same backcourt last season and they are solid, but had tons of frontcourt talent last year and still weren't real good.  SJU has Garrett, Pointer and Gift returning who are experienced frontcourt players.. We also add a legit too 70center in Obekpa, a top 5 JC PF in Sanchez and Top 40 PF in Jakarr.  I think we're waaaay ahead in the frontcourt.  In the backcourt, D'Lo is as good or better than anybody Uconn has.  Greene is solid and Branch could be a big one for us.  Add Balamou, Bourgault etc.  I think we're firmly ahead of Uconn.  Uconn's guards won't be able to utilize their assist game without forwards.

You missed the point, you say RU "has frontcourt issues" and my point was so does SJU.  line up the match ups and you will see that SJU is not that far off from RU. 

  I never brought up the huskey frontcourt.  I pointed out that their backcourt was\still is better and that the backcourt is normally the tipping point when you are comparing teams 9-16 in the BE.

I don't think Rutgers has nearly as much talent in the frontcourt as SJU.  RU has some big guys, but they lost their best one in Biruta.  Wally judge I'm not sold on yet.  I think SJU's frontcourt players are far more dynamic overall. 

You didn't bring up the Husky frontcourt, yet it is the "tipping point".  It's only the "tipping point" when you have a serviceable frontcourt which they don't have.  I don't think Uconn's backcourt will be better than ours.  D'Angelo is better than anybody in Uconn's backcourt.  I think Branch will prove to be a huge addition to Greene and Balamou here.  Uconn's backcourt is extremely small and a good backcour's biggest value is incorporating the frontcourt. 

I say it goes in this order from the schools listed

St Johns
Rutgers
Villanova
Seton Hall
UCONN- I am not saying that because I hate on UCONN but they are going to have a very long year

I would rank the Big East as follows as of right now:

Louisville
Syracuse
Marquette
Georgetown
Cincinnati
St Johns
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Villanova
South Florida
Providence
Seton Hall
UCONN
DePaul

 

@Moose & MCNPA

I think you guys are forgetting about Derrick Randall who will be a sophomore. I liked him a lot of out of high school and thought he played well in limited minutes last season. Also Austin Johnson can eat up space and should be more than serviceable for RU. However they will most likely play small and have Miller at the 4 while Judge (who is a man) at the 5.

Rutgers will be tough for anyone in Big East, they will be in a lot of games, and they'll have roller coaster success.


Villanova will be bad and Seton Hall will be worse. I think UConn will struggle but goes on some sort of run at some point in the season.