Seton Hall pre-game predictions.

We average 68 a game and have scored at least 70 in 8 games this season.  All I'm saying. 

 This info is very easy to look up.


You consider us a running team?

Yes.  Go look at the scoring in the BE.  Notre Dame was considered arguably the best or one of the best offensive teams in the BE and they were just held to 47 points AT HOME.  Games are routinely being scored in the 50's this year. 

Running does not equate into scoring all the time but I think SJU is at its best when it is creating turnovers and in the open floor.  Their half court offense is still a work in progress.

We average 68 a game and have scored at least 70 in 8 games this season.  All I'm saying. 

 This info is very easy to look up.


You consider us a running team?

  Not particularly, although i do think that is when we are at our best.

 

 

Quote from: we are sju on January 24, 2013, 12:54:16 PM

We average 68 a game and have scored at least 70 in 8 games this season.  All I'm saying. 

 This info is very easy to look up.


You consider us a running team?

  Not particularly, although i do think that is when we are at our best.

 

 

Agreed on 2nd part.  We are at our best when do.  Problem is we don't do it enough.

Yes.  Go look at the scoring in the BE.  Notre Dame was considered arguably the best or one of the best offensive teams in the BE and they were just held to 47 points AT HOME.  Games are routinely being scored in the 50's this year.  -Fordham

That was half of my point. We are not a high scoring team(third from bottom in conference I believe) and that will go down playing in the BE. People were predicting us in the 80's. Except as an aberation, that is not going to happen with us in league games, yet people keep predicting it. Forget our style of play, we don't shoot well from three or at the line and we aren't a great rebounding team. Tough to score 80 that way.



Running does not equate into scoring all the time but I think SJU is at its best when it is creating turnovers and in the open floor.  Their half court offense is still a work in progress.-Fordham

Yes, I understand that and it was a seperate issue. People keep indicating that we run. Occasionaly we have Dom inspired fast break, but I don't think any sane person would call us a running team. That was my other point.

Yes.  Go look at the scoring in the BE.  Notre Dame was considered arguably the best or one of the best offensive teams in the BE and they were just held to 47 points AT HOME.  Games are routinely being scored in the 50's this year.  -Fordham

I agree! That was half of my point. We are not a high scoring team(third from bottom in conference I believe) and that will go down playing in the BE. People were predicting us in the 80's. Except as an aberation, that is not going to happen with us in league games, yet people keep predicting it. Forget our style of play, we don't shoot well from three or at the line and we aren't a great rebounding team. Tough to score 80 that way.



Running does not equate into scoring all the time but I think SJU is at its best when it is creating turnovers and in the open floor.  Their half court offense is still a work in progress.-Fordham

Yes, I understand that and it was a seperate issue. People keep indicating that we run. Occasionaly we have Dom inspired fast break, but I don't think any sane person would call us a running team. That was my other point.

Agree. We don't run off outlet passes for example, not good enough rebounding team to do that. The frenetic open court stuff is most often result of offensive ineptitude of other team. DePaul and Rutgers last night signify that IMO.

Good guys 68, them 55

We look to run every chance we get.  Until we get a 4th quarter lead and then we run the stall.  In the first possesion of the game we run the weave and have every player touch the ball.

Next two are must win games. I think they know this. I think they'll come out strong.

Quote from: boo3 on January 24, 2013, 01:00:19 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 24, 2013, 12:54:16 PM

We average 68 a game and have scored at least 70 in 8 games this season.  All I'm saying. 

 This info is very easy to look up.


You consider us a running team?

  Not particularly, although i do think that is when we are at our best.

 

 

Agreed on 2nd part.  We are at our best when do.  Problem is we don't do it enough.

I have to think that other teams would do anything they could to get us into our circle offense.

Quote from: boo3 on January 24, 2013, 01:00:19 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 24, 2013, 12:54:16 PM

We average 68 a game and have scored at least 70 in 8 games this season.  All I'm saying. 

 This info is very easy to look up.


You consider us a running team?

  Not particularly, although i do think that is when we are at our best.

 

 

Agreed on 2nd part.  We are at our best when do.  Problem is we don't do it enough.

I think one of the problems becomes we have 4 guys now who play 40+ minutes.   
Remember when we thought how all this depth would lead to us being stronger in the 2nd half, and coach talking about "line shifts" like in hockey.
It seems reality has gotten in the way. 

I don't want to see Felix, Jones, and Marco all that much either, but if Harrison, Sampson, and Branch are playing practically the whole game (and now Dom too)... it's kind've hard to expect them to not show fatigue down the stretch. 

Quote from: Moose on January 24, 2013, 01:04:24 PM

Quote from: boo3 on January 24, 2013, 01:00:19 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 24, 2013, 12:54:16 PM

We average 68 a game and have scored at least 70 in 8 games this season.  All I'm saying. 

 This info is very easy to look up.


You consider us a running team?

  Not particularly, although i do think that is when we are at our best.

 

 

Agreed on 2nd part.  We are at our best when do.  Problem is we don't do it enough.

I think one of the problems becomes we have 4 guys now who play 40+ minutes.   
Remember when we thought how all this depth would lead to us being stronger in the 2nd half, and coach talking about "line shifts" like in hockey.
It seems reality has gotten in the way. 

I don't want to see Felix, Jones, and Marco all that much either, but if Harrison, Sampson, and Branch are playing practically the whole game (and now Dom too)... it's kind've hard to expect them to not show fatigue down the stretch. 

I think Felix and Jones can help us in spurts. We need improvement out of both, but most teams need more from a few guys. That's just the league. I like getting them burn. Felix has had moments.

We average 68 a game and have scored at least 70 in 8 games this season.  All I'm saying. 

 This info is very easy to look up.

Yes it is, I didn't include yesterday's game
80 3 times
and average 65 in BE play

Also keep in mind we've played much better lately. 80 is not a crazy prediction.

Tony Chiles   67

PMG911       62


JUST KIDDING PMG

Quote from: boo3 on January 24, 2013, 01:00:19 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 24, 2013, 12:54:16 PM

We average 68 a game and have scored at least 70 in 8 games this season.  All I'm saying. 

 This info is very easy to look up.


You consider us a running team?

  Not particularly, although i do think that is when we are at our best.

 

 

Agreed on 2nd part.  We are at our best when do.  Problem is we don't do it enough.

When we get teams to take poor shots, or they just missing, we can run. Our team wins with D. Hold the other guys to 37%, or 42 if we turn them over 18 times, and we got a good shot of winning. If we can get teams to run their stuff faster then they comfortable with, we can score. We at our worst when teams work the ball around for 25 seconds, and get good looks. I figure u all already know all of that. Oh, and we can't play any more games like we did vs. G.Town. What happened that morning?

Quote from: Moose on January 24, 2013, 01:04:24 PM

Quote from: boo3 on January 24, 2013, 01:00:19 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 24, 2013, 12:54:16 PM

We average 68 a game and have scored at least 70 in 8 games this season.  All I'm saying. 

 This info is very easy to look up.


You consider us a running team?

  Not particularly, although i do think that is when we are at our best.

 

 

Agreed on 2nd part.  We are at our best when do.  Problem is we don't do it enough.

I think one of the problems becomes we have 4 guys now who play 40+ minutes.   
Remember when we thought how all this depth would lead to us being stronger in the 2nd half, and coach talking about "line shifts" like in hockey.
It seems reality has gotten in the way. 

I don't want to see Felix, Jones, and Marco all that much either, but if Harrison, Sampson, and Branch are playing practically the whole game (and now Dom too)... it's kind've hard to expect them to not show fatigue down the stretch.

Not to be picky, but no one playing 40+. Right now we got 7 guys getting regular minutes. Like you said 4 get the heavy load. Harrison seems to be a guy thats gonna play 37 regular. It looks like the other guys can handle 32 with Jones and Felix getting a little run until they look to be hurting team. Game to fast for Marco. Teams turn him over without trying. If Ricky Torres was a step slow for the league, and the LI kid who ended up at Northwestern couldn't stick, how can Marco? A slow guy can make it if he's a good passer with a handle, but Marco not one of those. Don't mean to rip the player, but he don't fit our style. 

Quote from: desco80 on January 24, 2013, 03:09:19 PM

Quote from: Moose on January 24, 2013, 01:04:24 PM

Quote from: boo3 on January 24, 2013, 01:00:19 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 24, 2013, 12:54:16 PM

We average 68 a game and have scored at least 70 in 8 games this season.  All I'm saying. 

 This info is very easy to look up.


You consider us a running team?

  Not particularly, although i do think that is when we are at our best.

 

 

Agreed on 2nd part.  We are at our best when do.  Problem is we don't do it enough.

I think one of the problems becomes we have 4 guys now who play 40+ minutes.   
Remember when we thought how all this depth would lead to us being stronger in the 2nd half, and coach talking about "line shifts" like in hockey.
It seems reality has gotten in the way. 

I don't want to see Felix, Jones, and Marco all that much either, but if Harrison, Sampson, and Branch are playing practically the whole game (and now Dom too)... it's kind've hard to expect them to not show fatigue down the stretch.

Not to be picky, but no one playing 40+. Right now we got 7 guys getting regular minutes. Like you said 4 get the heavy load. Harrison seems to be a guy thats gonna play 37 regular. It looks like the other guys can handle 32 with Jones and Felix getting a little run until they look to be hurting team. Game to fast for Marco. Teams turn him over without trying. If Ricky Torres was a step slow for the league, and the LI kid who ended up at Northwestern couldn't stick, how can Marco? A slow guy can make it if he's a good passer with a handle, but Marco not one of those. Don't mean to rip the player, but he don't fit our style.

I don't think Marco is really cut out for this level.  I think he was brought in with Sanchez and to hopefully add a shooting  spark.  He can shoot a little bit, but has a hard time freeing himself.  He'd be okay at a different level that has a more deliberate half court offense.  Felix is a totally different story.  Felix fits our style perfectly and can really play.  He's a smaller Sir'Dom type and can offer us solid minutes.  He can also score better than it seems now, but needs more confidence.  Felix also plays real good d.  Two very different prognoses for those two.

St. John's comes out in their usual coma due to early starting time. PG4 starts out red hot hitting 2 buckets early and finishes with 4 pts in a 61-60 St. John's squeaker.

78-70 us in an up tempo game

St. John's comes out in their usual coma due to early starting time. PG4 starts out red hot hitting 2 buckets early and finishes with 4 pts in a 61-60 St. John's squeaker.

Sad but true. We should win comfortably. But we won't

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